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Dave Sibbett - 21 Jul 2004 22:29 GMT
This summer I planted some peppers in the garden. Today I picked some ripe
ones. I gave both Molly YNA and BooBoo each a half habanero(scotch bonnet)
they both went ape over it. These are 200 times hotter than jalepenos.
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Molly, Yellow Nape Amazon
BooBoo, Senegal

dkrug - 21 Jul 2004 22:47 GMT
> This summer I planted some peppers in the garden. Today I picked some ripe
> ones. I gave both Molly YNA and BooBoo each a half habanero(scotch bonnet)
> they both went ape over it. These are 200 times hotter than jalepenos.
Just don't let them kiss you after eating one :)))
Debbie
Alex Clayton - 22 Jul 2004 00:00 GMT
> > This summer I planted some peppers in the garden. Today I picked some ripe
> > ones. I gave both Molly YNA and BooBoo each a half habanero(scotch bonnet)
> > they both went ape over it. These are 200 times hotter than jalepenos.
> Just don't let them kiss you after eating one :)))
> Debbie

LOL, watch were they put that beak after eating huh?
 I can't remember who but I do remember reading here that birds can't
"feel" the hot in foods like this. It must be so as mine love any kind of
peppers also.
Dave Sibbett - 22 Jul 2004 00:53 GMT
Alex,
Part of my childhood was spent in the middle east where I was acclimated to
"Hot" spicy foods. I put half of one of these badboys on my tongue and it
brought tears to my eyes.

Dave
> > > This summer I planted some peppers in the garden. Today I picked some
> ripe
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> "feel" the hot in foods like this. It must be so as mine love any kind of
> peppers also.
Jim - 22 Jul 2004 02:32 GMT
> Alex,
> Part of my childhood was spent in the middle east where I was acclimated to
> "Hot" spicy foods. I put half of one of these badboys on my tongue and it
> brought tears to my eyes.

So what?  Birds still don't feel the "hot"
Alex Clayton - 22 Jul 2004 05:50 GMT
> Alex,
> Part of my childhood was spent in the middle east where I was acclimated to
> "Hot" spicy foods. I put half of one of these badboys on my tongue and it
> brought tears to my eyes.
>
> Dave

LOL, I hear yah, I love hot food, love Peppers on things like a sandwich to
the point it makes you sweat when you eat it, but when I share with the
birds they will pull out a pepper and munch it like it's just another treat.
No reaction at all, so they must not have the same receptors in their mouth
we do.
Wingnut - 22 Jul 2004 20:05 GMT
> > Alex,
> > Part of my childhood was spent in the middle east where I was acclimated
[quoted text clipped - 9 lines]
> No reaction at all, so they must not have the same receptors in their mouth
> we do.

I heard that it's because birds' mouths are dry...that if they had saliva
the capsaicins would kick in.  Anybody know if that's really the reason?
jberger - 22 Jul 2004 20:20 GMT
> > > Alex,
> > > Part of my childhood was spent in the middle east where I was acclimated
[quoted text clipped - 16 lines]
> I heard that it's because birds' mouths are dry...that if they had saliva
> the capsaicins would kick in.  Anybody know if that's really the reason?

From the OFFICIAL NEWSLETTER OF THE SOCIETY OF TOXICOLOGY OF CANADA,Volume
XXII Number 3, November, 2003

http://www.stcweb.ca/newsletter/volume22_no3.pdf

"...I spotted an interesting article in the science section of the GLOBE and
MAIL (Sept.6th), discussing squirrel-proof birdseed, something we really
need around here. Apparently, some scientists at the U. S. National Cancer
Institute were examining the active ingredients, capsaicins, in chili
peppers for anti-cancer activity (they were inactive) but playfully decided
to squirrel-proof a bird feeder. Capsaicins are a family of
neurotransmitterbased irritants that interact with c-afferent nociceptors on
the surface of the lips, tongue, and the inside of the mouth to release a
neurotransmitter which our brains perceive as pain and heat. The digestive
tracts of mammals are full of cafferent nociceptors, but birds do not have
such receptors and are not affected. A Canadian venture capitalist from
Napanee, Ontario, invested in the company started by the NCI people,
discovered that you could not coat birdseed with powdered capsaicins (rain
washed it off) but, if you made an oil-based solution of capsaicins, it
would penetrate the sunflower seed husks, Of course, the product, sold in
Canada under the name Squirrel-Proof, had to undergo testing as a
pest-repellant for two and a half years but made it through the regulatory
maze. There was also an occupational hazard situation that had to be
circumvented - a manufacturing plant full of air-borne capsaicins dust!"

Bestest regards,
--Jerry
Alex Clayton - 22 Jul 2004 21:08 GMT
That's interesting, I had never heard about this.

> > > > Alex,
> > > > Part of my childhood was spent in the middle east where I was
[quoted text clipped - 45 lines]
> Bestest regards,
> --Jerry
Pagan - 22 Jul 2004 06:08 GMT
> This summer I planted some peppers in the garden. Today I picked some ripe
> ones. I gave both Molly YNA and BooBoo each a half habanero(scotch bonnet)
> they both went ape over it. These are 200 times hotter than jalepenos.

My birds LOVE chiltepins (they are small, round, and VERY hot peppers).  I
have some plants of my own (about five; they reseed or are perennial).  They
never seem to provide enough, so a special treat they are.  Lately I have
found them in the Wal-Mart produce section.  I have had some very happy
hot-mouthed parrots.  I planted about twenty more this year but they have
yet to sprout.  They make beautiful round bushy plants, especially when the
peppers are ripe and red.

June and her...
Four DYH's
One YNA
One Senegal
Jow - 22 Jul 2004 17:26 GMT
The substances in peppers that gives them the kick are called
capsaicinoids.  Mammals in general are affected by these, but birds
are not.  Pretty interesting - they have no idea what they're missing.
:)

> > This summer I planted some peppers in the garden. Today I picked some ripe
> > ones. I gave both Molly YNA and BooBoo each a half habanero(scotch bonnet)
[quoted text clipped - 12 lines]
> One YNA
> One Senegal
Toucanldy - 22 Jul 2004 19:10 GMT
>From: jow_00@yahoo.com  (Jow)

>The substances in peppers that gives them the kick are called
>capsaicinoids.  Mammals in general are affected by these, but birds
>are not.  Pretty interesting - they have no idea what they're missing.

Cayenne pepper is good for the heart, and circulatory system.
http://www.harmonikireland.com/print.php?topic=cayenne

Regards
pianoharp - 22 Jul 2004 15:56 GMT
> This summer I planted some peppers in the garden. Today I picked some ripe
> ones. I gave both Molly YNA and BooBoo each a half habanero(scotch bonnet)
> they both went ape over it. These are 200 times hotter than jalepenos.

They love hot peppers.  Make sure not to take out the seeds.  Unlike us,
they just munch those babies right down, apparently with no ill effects.  I
used to give those to the budgies when I had them.  Haven't done that with
the canary.
John - 24 Jul 2004 02:14 GMT
Hello Dave,

>This summer I planted some peppers in the garden. Today I picked some ripe
>ones. I gave both Molly YNA and BooBoo each a half habanero(scotch bonnet)
>they both went ape over it. These are 200 times hotter than jalepenos.

Mother nature and evolution at its best, if a mammal eats a capsicum
the seed dies during the digestive process. If a bird eats it the seed
passes through safely and gets deposited in a new location with a
convenient dollop of fertilizer. So the capsicum family has evolved
with an attractive soft fruit that is repugnant to most mammals but
not to birds.

John
waitingforgodot@samuel.beckett - 24 Jul 2004 14:03 GMT
><(((*> On Wed, 21 Jul 2004 21:29:59 GMT, "Dave Sibbett" <dave@mylastname.com>
><(((*> wrote:
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><(((*> with an attractive soft fruit that is repugnant to most mammals but
><(((*> not to birds.

I guess that means I'm part bird then, because I love hot
peppers. The hotter the better.

They get me through those long cold Canadian winters. Chili, not
chilly.

Tara J. Ballance
Montreal, Canada
 
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