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Pet Forum / Birds / Birds / September 2004yet another teflon question
I know, this has been done to death. I have googled the archives and read many threads on this issue. I have no teflon pans in my kitchen (I have a YNA and have had her from a wee chick 11 years ago) and haven't for about, er, 11 years. Problem is that I want to buy a rice cooker, to be specific a NS- ZAC10 Zojirushi 'neuro-fuzzy' rice cooker. The cooking pan is teflon coated and isn't available otherwise. Several facts: This thing is telemetered to a fare-thee-well. It uses computerized PID temperature control that fails safe. The lid over the pot is sealed though there is a vent path. I'm not sure how that works but it isn't air tight. Finally rice cooks at the boiling point of water which is well below the oft reported danger point of teflon's overheated state. If this level of cooker were available w/o the coating it would be a no-brainer. It isn't, and for good reason since cooked sticky rice can be used as an excellent glue! What do you think? Frankly it seems the risk is very, very low. It isn't like a griddle or a frying pan... Thanks in advance for your thoughts. Ted > I know, this has been done to death. I have googled the archives and > read many threads on this issue. I have no teflon pans in my kitchen [quoted text clipped - 20 lines] > > Ted Ted, Here are two links that I came across when I was doing some research of my own. While doing my research I came across this article: http://www.curezone.com/forums/m.asp?f=362&i=2127).That article includes the URL (http://www.ewg.org/reports/toxicteflon/es.php) to another article that presents the results of test conducted while preheating cookware. In which the cookware reached or exceeded the temperatures needed to start the outgassing process. I hope that they help answer some of your questions. Do you have to pre- heat the cooker?  SignatureDigital_Cowboy Live Long and Prosper ___________________ _-_ \==============_=_/ ____.---'---`---.____ \_ \ \----._________.----/ \ \ / / `-_-' __,--`.`-'..'-_ /____ ||- `--.____,-' > I know, this has been done to death. I have googled the archives and > read many threads on this issue. I have no teflon pans in my kitchen [quoted text clipped - 18 lines] > > Thanks in advance for your thoughts. If the pan never gets much hotter than the boiling point of water then it shouldn't pose a risk. Still, if you have venting above your stove (that vents to the outside) I'd recommend using it at full speed while the cooker is in use. Or if your kitchen has a window, use a window fan pointed outside. Rick >I know, this has been done to death. I have googled the archives and > read many threads on this issue. I have no teflon pans in my kitchen [quoted text clipped - 20 lines] > > Ted If you really have "I have googled the archives " then you should know by now the problem is not the pan, but the food. To get the PTFE hot enough to cause a problem the rice would have long before caught on fire. Now there will always be a couple people "tell" you it's risk, and they are right, it's about as much a risk as any electric appliance in that it "could" start a fire. Most of what you read about the PTFE pans is just re hashed BS. Signature25% graduate functional illiterates. We should remove the warning labels from everything and let nature take care of the problem. Peter Weisbach Hi, I've had birds a long time and currently have a Timneh Grey and a Congo Grey. I have a rice cooker and have used it many times without a problem. And yes, I know about the risk factors of its Teflon lining, etc., but the cooking process is pretty slow and burning is virtually impossible due to the way it is programmed. The birds are in a separate room - a sunroom off the kitchen and dining area. Hope this helps you in making an informed decision. Thea . > I know, this has been done to death. I have googled the archives and > read many threads on this issue. I have no teflon pans in my kitchen [quoted text clipped - 20 lines] > > Ted > Hi, > I've had birds a long time and currently have a Timneh Grey and a Congo [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > > Thea Thea, and others... thanks for helping a stranger answer a thorny problem! Ted Signatureemail me at: tee en jay ess eye em pee ess oh en one-the-number (at) cee oh em cee a ess tee (dot) en ee tee ANY other email addie will probably mean I spam-killed your message unread, by accident, really. |
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