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oldmolly - 17 Oct 2003 15:26 GMT
My old friend is trying to cut down a bit to lessen the work he does. He
gets ill every year and needs to consolidate the birds into one of the
barns. With this in mind, he decided to rehome his barn owl who had lived in
a 'temporary' cage measuring only 3ft by 6 ft for several years.
I offered to take the owl, named 'Olly', and he readily agreed. I built a 12
ft by 6 ft flight, with an inner shed of 4 ft by 6 ft, and a roosting box.
It turns out that this bird has the remains of jesses on her legs, and was
apparently at one time, trained for flying. The years spent in the small
cage has not done her muscles any good at all, and I have had to place many
perches in the longer flight so that she will build up gradually. I plan on
working with her and perhaps in the future when she is used to me, put new
jesses on her and retrain her so that she can have some quality of life and
be able to fly. At the moment though, we are just getting to know each
other. She does know me slightly from when I went to visit my friend, but
never seemed to like me: disappearing into her box when she saw me. She is
rather beautiful and I am looking forward to working with her. Her paperwork
shows her to be 9 years old.
Owly - 17 Oct 2003 19:36 GMT
I'm buying my plane ticket as we speak...WOW!!!!
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> My old friend is trying to cut down a bit to lessen the work he does. He
> gets ill every year and needs to consolidate the birds into one of the
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> rather beautiful and I am looking forward to working with her. Her paperwork
> shows her to be 9 years old.
oldmolly - 17 Oct 2003 21:52 GMT
> I'm buying my plane ticket as we speak...WOW!!!!

OK, no problem. Catch the train to Cambridge and I will meet you at the
railway station lol.I will bring Cuppy with me.;0)
JZ - 17 Oct 2003 23:08 GMT
I think I need to get a passport, real quick, so I can go with Owly to visit
Oldmolly!
Jan

> I'm buying my plane ticket as we speak...WOW!!!!
> > My old friend is trying to cut down a bit to lessen the work he does. He
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> paperwork
> > shows her to be 9 years old.
oldmolly - 18 Oct 2003 21:05 GMT
> I think I need to get a passport, real quick, so I can go with Owly to visit
> Oldmolly!

Crikey I only have one spare bed.
Steve - 18 Oct 2003 04:37 GMT
> I'm buying my plane ticket as we speak...WOW!!!!
> --
> owly

For a barn owl?
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oldmolly - 18 Oct 2003 21:05 GMT
> > I'm buying my plane ticket as we speak...WOW!!!!
> > --
> > owly
>
> For a barn owl?
> --
Not *just* for a barn owl, to see Cuppy too.
JZ - 20 Oct 2003 01:45 GMT
> > > I'm buying my plane ticket as we speak...WOW!!!!
> > > --
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> > --
>  Not *just* for a barn owl, to see Cuppy too.

I just wanted to meet Oldmolly and her crew. I figured traveling with Owly
would make it even more fun!
Jan
Owly - 20 Oct 2003 03:48 GMT
Oh heck, we'd have a blast together :).
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> I just wanted to meet Oldmolly and her crew. I figured traveling with Owly
> would make it even more fun!
oldmolly - 20 Oct 2003 15:14 GMT
> > > For a barn owl?
> > > --
> >  Not *just* for a barn owl, to see Cuppy too.
>
> I just wanted to meet Oldmolly and her crew. I figured traveling with Owly
> would make it even more fun!
All are welcome here. You can have *my* bed JZ. I will sleep downstairs on
the couch. Um, the only smalll problem is that *my* bed is also the bed of
'Dibble', 'Kate', and'Billy', the 3 little bed dogs and I'm afraid they
don't 'do' stairs. You will have to carry them all up, then all down again
in the morning lol.Oh, and 'Dibble' snores ;-)
thehouse@pooh.corner - 21 Oct 2003 01:42 GMT
><(((*>  All are welcome here. You can have *my* bed JZ. I will sleep downstairs on
><(((*> the couch. Um, the only smalll problem is that *my* bed is also the bed of
><(((*> 'Dibble', 'Kate', and'Billy', the 3 little bed dogs and I'm afraid they
><(((*> don't 'do' stairs. You will have to carry them all up, then all down again
><(((*> in the morning lol.Oh, and 'Dibble' snores ;-)

This sounds like heaven.

Our little dog Chopin slept with us nearly every night for the 13
years we had him. I can't imagine *not* sleeping with animals.

Except for Jester; he prefers his cage.

Tara J. Ballance
Montreal, Canada
D Daestl Beattie - 21 Oct 2003 02:33 GMT
> This sounds like heaven.
>
>  <<  remainder of post edited out, for brevity  >>

> Tara J. Ballance
> Montreal, Canada

Sigh.  Yes, doesn't it?  As do so many of the other glimpses shared here and
on web-sites of some of this group's regulars.
I get so-oo envious!

Take care, evr'ybuddy  :))

D Daestl Beattie  <<  Finch-owner & general bird luvr  >>
JZ - 22 Oct 2003 01:28 GMT
> > > > For a barn owl?
> > > > --
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> don't 'do' stairs. You will have to carry them all up, then all down again
> in the morning lol.Oh, and 'Dibble' snores ;-)

I can handle that! I share a bed with Beannie and she had fleas for a month
this summer... I have lots more energy since surgery last February so I can
carry the pups to bed... And no dog can snore as loud as my Jim can! But
give me a little break, I'll help with the animal chores but I don't do
windows!
Jan
oldmolly - 22 Oct 2003 15:26 GMT
> I can handle that! I share a bed with Beannie and she had fleas for a
>month
> this summer...
No prob's, they don't have fleas.

>but I don't do
> windows!
Me neither hehe
gcarr - 22 Oct 2003 22:37 GMT
> My old friend is trying to cut down a bit to lessen the work he does. He
> gets ill every year and needs to consolidate the birds into one of the
[quoted text clipped - 13 lines]
> rather beautiful and I am looking forward to working with her. Her paperwork
> shows her to be 9 years old.

Heh. Neat. IME Barnies aren't the brightest of birds though! One eye is the
size of their brain LOL Have you ever had a bird of prey before? If not I'd
suggest contacting your nearest raptor center and asking what they recommend
doing with this girl, especially if you want to train her.

I guess this means you don't mind feeding mice. Most non-falconer bird
people I know are grossed out by the meerest thought of bugs or dead mice.
Heh. Good luck!

Gloria
oldmolly - 22 Oct 2003 23:22 GMT
> Heh. Neat. IME Barnies aren't the brightest of birds though! One eye is the
> size of their brain LOL Have you ever had a bird of prey before? If not I'd
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> I guess this means you don't mind feeding mice. Most non-falconer bird
> people I know are grossed out by the meerest thought of bugs or dead mice.

While I have never actually *owned* an owl before, I used to work
voluntarily at an own sanctuary.She is fed dead day old chicks in the main
which is what seems to be fed usually over here although I do plan to vary
her diet with dead mice when I need to order some more food for her.
She is already coming to my whistle and flying from one end of the flight to
another for a chick. I plan to work slowly over the winter just building up
trust and muscle tone and in spring, to fit new jesses, and practice flying
on a creance.
gcarr - 22 Oct 2003 23:50 GMT
> > Heh. Neat. IME Barnies aren't the brightest of birds though! One eye is
> the
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> trust and muscle tone and in spring, to fit new jesses, and practice flying
> on a creance.

Day old chicks are high in cholesterol (all that yoke) and I've known birds
of prey to have problems with that. If you can get the chicks a bit older
then day old that would be better. If you want to use them then it would
probably be a good idea to check the blood cholesterol level. Cornix quail
and mice make a better base diet IMHO.  There's also some comercial bird of
prey diets on the market in the US, I don't know if they are availible in
the UK, although not all birds like it. Looks a bit like gross hamburger.

I'm a bit envious, its not legal to have a pet owl here!

Gloria
Wheeler - 23 Oct 2003 01:11 GMT
Isn't there a licensing process by which raptors can be raised/kept by
normal people?

Bob W

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> I'm a bit envious, its not legal to have a pet owl here!
>
> Gloria
gcarr - 23 Oct 2003 01:24 GMT
> Isn't there a licensing process by which raptors can be raised/kept by
> normal people?

There's a falconer's licence (yep, you can keep owls under it) and a
rehabber/educators licence. A bit of a pain in the but if all you want is a
pet. Also, not many owls are captive bred, so most are going to be
unreleasable wild ones. There's Federal and State laws and licences to mess
with.

Gloria

> Bob W
>
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> >
> > Gloria
oldmolly - 23 Oct 2003 17:15 GMT
> Day old chicks are high in cholesterol (all that yoke) and I've known birds
> of prey to have problems with that. If you can get the chicks a bit older
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>
> I'm a bit envious, its not legal to have a pet owl here!

'Owly' came with all her paperwork. Dead day old chicks are used
extensively over here to feed all raptors and owls, however this morning I
called a raptor feed company and they will be sending me a catalogue and
price list. I hope to be able to supply 'Owly' with mice and other suitably
sized food shortly. ASAIK there are no 'manufactured' raptor diets over here
and I doubt I would use them in any case, preferring to feed as naturally as
possible.
I would not have chosen to get an owl as a pet. I find them rather boring in
captivity. We do have a number of wild barn owls (screech owls) in my
locality and was in fact woken up for several nights last year when one
decided to sit in one of the chestnut trees and sing :0)
gcarr - 23 Oct 2003 20:17 GMT
> > Day old chicks are high in cholesterol (all that yoke) and I've known
> birds
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> locality and was in fact woken up for several nights last year when one
> decided to sit in one of the chestnut trees and sing :0)

LOL. They do make a godawful racket don't they? Well, best of luck with him.
The owls at the zoo that I handled were interesting, but come to think of
it, the Great Horned was more fun then the Barn, he would hoot back at you
if you hooted at him. GHOs are more intellegent then Barns IMHO.

Gloria
oldmolly - 23 Oct 2003 21:21 GMT
> >  'Owly' came with all her paperwork. Dead day old chicks are used
> > extensively over here to feed all raptors and owls, however this morning I
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> it, the Great Horned was more fun then the Barn, he would hoot back at you
> if you hooted at him. GHOs are more intellegent then Barns IMHO.

I think that if I had wanted to get owls, I might have chosen either bengal
eagle owls, or boobok owls.
The former for their sheer size and those gorgeous eyes, and the latter
simply cos they are so sweet.
But now I have 'Owly' I will do my best by her.
Owly - 23 Oct 2003 23:14 GMT
The first time I came up face to face with an owl, and no bars between us
(like at the zoo) I cried.  I was so overcome by her beauty and those
marvelous eyes and the fact that I had such a privilege...the people around
me thought I was nuts (and maybe I was) but I was so caught up in her that I
simply didn't care.

You are SO lucky...
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>  I think that if I had wanted to get owls, I might have chosen either bengal
> eagle owls, or boobok owls.
> The former for their sheer size and those gorgeous eyes, and the latter
> simply cos they are so sweet.
> But now I have 'Owly' I will do my best by her.
JZ - 24 Oct 2003 00:39 GMT
> The first time I came up face to face with an owl, and no bars between us
> (like at the zoo) I cried.  I was so overcome by her beauty and those
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>
> You are SO lucky...

You were not nuts, the same thing happened to me (some 20+ years ago.) My
first close call with an owl was a Snowy Owl perched in a tree just outside
my bedroom window. I also cried at it's beauty! It was at least ten years
after that when I realized what a gift that sighting was as they are not
often found so far south (Saline, Michigan) and not usually sighted in
cities.
Jan
Joanne - 24 Oct 2003 01:53 GMT
> The first time I came up face to face with an owl, and no bars between us
> (like at the zoo) I cried.  I was so overcome by her beauty and those
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
>
> You are SO lucky...

I'm so glad you posted this.  Last month I went whale watching in a small
boat (about 12 people) out of Victoria, BC.  The pilot placed the boat in
the path of about a dozen orca whales.  We watched them coming toward us,
closer and closer.  Each time they surfaced I could see them better. Finally
they were right up to the boat and then passed right under us.  I stood
there, paralyzed with tears streaming down my face.

Everyone on the boat was thrilled, but I felt so awkward because no one else
seemed to react the way I did.

I could never be a wildlife photographer.  Working the camera in those
moments was beyond my ability.

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Toucanldy - 24 Oct 2003 14:07 GMT
>Subject: Re: I have a new bird
>From: "Joanne" Joanne@jobirdnest.com
Last month I went whale watching in a small
>boat (about 12 people) out of Victoria, BC.  The pilot placed the boat in
>the path of about a dozen orca whales.  We watched them coming toward us,
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>Everyone on the boat was thrilled, but I felt so awkward because no one else
>seemed to react the way I did.

Well, they are also called the "Killer Whale," but fortunately for you they
only eat sea life.
They are vey social creatures and travel in pods.

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Joanne - 24 Oct 2003 16:12 GMT
> >Subject: Re: I have a new bird
> >From: "Joanne" Joanne@jobirdnest.com
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>
> Regards

And, fortunately for most sea life the 3 resident pods in this area known as
J, K & L only eat salmon.  The transient orcas eat everything.   I got to
see a pod of transients hunting sea lion a couple of years ago.  It was
disturbing but nature sometimes is.

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Pagan - 24 Oct 2003 04:06 GMT
> The first time I came up face to face with an owl, and no bars between us
> (like at the zoo) I cried.  I was so overcome by her beauty and those
[quoted text clipped - 11 lines]
> > simply cos they are so sweet.
> > But now I have 'Owly' I will do my best by her.

I was in Seward Alaska a few years ago and a bald eagle perched off the boat
we were on.  I had never seen one before (in person) and I also cried.  A
few years before we were in Costa Rica and saw two green wing Macaws in
flight right over our heads.  I cried then too.  My husband did not cry,
though he was in awe.  I am glad to read of others with this reaction.

June
Owly - 24 Oct 2003 04:42 GMT
So am I...and I'm LOVING reading about others' encounters with wild
creatures as well...I'm in awe of them all!

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Alaska a few years ago and a bald eagle perched off the boat
> we were on.  I had never seen one before (in person) and I also cried.  A
> few years before we were in Costa Rica and saw two green wing Macaws in
> flight right over our heads.  I cried then too.  My husband did not cry,
> though he was in awe.  I am glad to read of others with this reaction.
Ray - 24 Oct 2003 23:00 GMT
I missed the start of this thread Pam, Barn Owls are beautiful birds it
shouldnt take you long to get it flying.
I had a Barn Owl a few years ago along with Bengal Eagle and Little Owls,
the barn Owl (Al) was the gentlest, the Bengal was Laziest and the Little
Owl was viscous and couldnt be handled. I fed my birds day old chicks, mice,
rats, fresh fish and adult Quail. Like for all birds a variety of food is
essential.
I'm sure your Owl will love you as much as your other birds do Pam.
Take care,
               Ray

> > Day old chicks are high in cholesterol (all that yoke) and I've known
> birds
[quoted text clipped - 19 lines]
> locality and was in fact woken up for several nights last year when one
> decided to sit in one of the chestnut trees and sing :0)
oldmolly - 25 Oct 2003 15:05 GMT
> I missed the start of this thread Pam, Barn Owls are beautiful birds it
> shouldnt take you long to get it flying.
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> Take care,
>                 Ray

Thanks for the info Ray. 'Owly' already appears at her pop hole to my
whistle, and will fly readily to my gloved hand when I stand in the flight
so it seems that she has not forgotten all her training. I need to get some
jesses for her as all that remains on her at present are a bracelet of worn
leather on each leg.
I am going to get her some mice from a new wholesaler in Huntingdon and
will see if her has quail etc. Hopefully I will be able to buy a mixed lot
so that she can have something different every day.

I must take a photo of 'tickle' one day. Her cage is on top of Jessibell
the patagonain's cage. 'Tickle' peeps out over the side at  'noddy' the
mitred conure, and he looks back and says hello lol.
Ray - 26 Oct 2003 22:53 GMT
I'll send you some pics of my Owls too.
Toni bought a Fiery-shouldered Conure, hand reared. He's really tame, though
the guy we bought him off hadnt bothered with him for about 5 months.
I got my Goldies Lorikeets, the cock is very tame and the hen is very steady
but she wont sit on my hand. They are in the birdroom with my Meyers
Lorikeets, in seperate breeding flights. Hope to have some babies before
xmas.
Hope you and your birds are well.
Take care
Ray.

> > I missed the start of this thread Pam, Barn Owls are beautiful birds it
> > shouldnt take you long to get it flying.
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> the patagonain's cage. 'Tickle' peeps out over the side at  'noddy' the
> mitred conure, and he looks back and says hello lol.
 
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