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Mea505 - 02 Dec 2007 11:47 GMT
Not long ago, due to my own stupdity, I lost one of my parakeets; the
cage was left open when I placed it outside on my porch, purely by
accident. The one bird that was not clipped got out (well, they both
did; but I was able to get the other one, the one that was clipped,
back into the cage). At least, I feel, that the bird maybe able to
survive in the wild, but this would be an academic question and one
for interpretation and analysis well beyond the scope of my own
abilities.

But, for the immediate future, I feel as though my now lone bird lacks
a friend. I can take this in two different perspectives: I can see if
the bird will bond with me, or I can get another bird. Which one of
these would be the best solution, given the needs of the bird placed
first?

Thanks. I would appreciate anyone's opinion.

Mark
Dave Bugg - 02 Dec 2007 20:03 GMT
> Not long ago, due to my own stupdity, I lost one of my parakeets; the
> cage was left open when I placed it outside on my porch, purely by
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> Thanks. I would appreciate anyone's opinion.

Either way is fine, Mark; it's your call. The lone budgie will adjust. Keep
in mind that if you do get another budgie, there is no guarantee that the
two will get along at all. In fact, it is a reasonable possibility that the
new budgie would be seen as an intruder.  Then again, they may bond like a
molecular adhesive. There is just no way to know. What is likely, though, is
that the lone budgie will increasingly want to interact with you and form a
bond.
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Mea505 - 03 Dec 2007 11:22 GMT
Dave et al:

I certainly understand that there are too many variables involved to
make a distinct decision concerning this dilemma in which I find
myself; however, I have had this bird now (this is, in fact, the first
one I purchased; the other one, the one that 'got away, was introduced
within a week afterwards, and he actually became the dominant one of
the two) for about two or three months.

I am growing extremely perplexed concerning my own interactions with
this (now) lone bird. It is always scared of me. I am afraid to put my
hand into the cage, as it always seems to "go crazy," jumping and
flying about, as if I am an aggressor. So, do I just "go for it," and
take it out of the cage, and try to bond with it by holding it, or
permitting the bird to experience the environment outside of its cage,
or is there something else I can do to grow closer to this bird. I
know that if I continue on the course I am on now, it will probably
never change; although that is an extremely academic statement.

Any help will be appreciated.

Thanks,

Mark

> > Not long ago, due to my own stupdity, I lost one of my parakeets; the
> > cage was left open when I placed it outside on my porch, purely by
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Joanne - 03 Dec 2007 16:31 GMT
> Dave et al:
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> Mark

You may want to read the numerous posts on this topic, many in answer to
your early questions.

You are an aggressor when you put your hand into a frightened bird's cage.

I'm so sorry that you didn't opt for a wing trim on the bird that is now
surely doomed to death unless he is lucky enough to be found by someone who
can capture and care for him.

I'll keep this short so that the most important message can be assimilated.
Patience.  Pray for it.  Practice it.  You destroy progress when you lose
it.

Finally; don't get another bird.  What you are looking for, you already have
if you will nurture it to trust you.

Patience.

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Dr. Strangemonde - 21 Dec 2007 09:29 GMT
> Keep in mind that if you do get another budgie, there's no guarantee that the
> two will get along at all. There is just no way to know.

When we unexpectedly ourselves with a single, very lonely 'keet and
sought to get him a "brother", the shop that we went to told us that
they had a "buddy rule"; they would not sell us another bird until we
brought ours in and allowed them to pair them up in a cage together at
the store for 48-72 hours to see how well they got along. (Actually,
the two little fellas bonded so strongly and instantaneously that the
pet shop people waived the observation after less than half a day.)

As a result, we now have a couple of "birds of a feather" who are as
inseparable as two peas in a pod.

 - Dr Strangemonde
Starlight - 21 Dec 2007 14:41 GMT
>When we unexpectedly ourselves with a single, very lonely 'keet and
>sought to get him a "brother", the shop that we went to told us that
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>the two little fellas bonded so strongly and instantaneously that the
>pet shop people waived the observation after less than half a day.)

Wow, I would never have taken my healthy keet into a bird shop where
there could possibly be sick birds.  I'm surprised they'd expose all
their birds to a strange bird whose health could be compromised.

And what if they hadn't gotten along and chewed each other's feet or
beaks off while they were in a cage together?  I prefer to bring the
new birds into my home, keep them apart yet in hearing distance for a
couple weeks, then introduce them in a large bird room where they can
escape from each other if necessary.  We've had 8 parakeets over the
past 10 years and luckily never had a problem with them not getting
along.
Dr. Strangemonde - 21 Dec 2007 23:41 GMT
I prefer to bring the
> new birds into my home, keep them apart yet in hearing distance for a
> couple weeks, then introduce them in a large bird room where they can
> escape from each other if necessary.

Sadly, the reason we ended up with with one lonely bird in the first
place was because my girlfriend had totally botched the above
procedure when bringing our beloved Yummi a new 'keet "brother".
Somehow she managed to totally force the new bird on him and he bolted
out the door the next time a neighbor popped in to visit.

 - Dr S
Starlight - 05 Dec 2007 05:41 GMT
>Not long ago, due to my own stupdity, I lost one of my parakeets; the
>cage was left open when I placed it outside on my porch, purely by
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>Thanks. I would appreciate anyone's opinion.

Gee, Mark, I wrote a fairly long post to you about how you can become
a friend to your budgies.  It's in the archives if you wan to look for
it.  IMO, you are trying to push the issue and are not exercising
patience.  Reaching into the cage and grabbing the bird is probably
the last thing you should do.
Look back at the response you got. Be a buddy, offer millet, sing,
talk, eat with your budgie.  It will take time, lots of time. If
you're truly considering what is best for your budgie, ask Santa for
some patience and use it. ;)
Becky
Bird Lover - 06 Dec 2007 02:19 GMT
>> Not long ago, due to my own stupdity, I lost one of my parakeets; the
>> cage was left open when I placed it outside on my porch, purely by
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> some patience and use it. ;)
> Becky

Great suggestion! I find that singing to my bird works wonders. He loves
it! :-)
Alan Williams - 06 Dec 2007 20:51 GMT
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> Great suggestion! I find that singing to my bird works wonders. He loves
> it! :-)

For some reason my birds are fascinated when I hum.  They stop
everything - even shredding :-)  If they are out then they come right up
to my lips to see how I'm making the noise.

Alan
Bird Lover - 07 Dec 2007 05:49 GMT
> [snip]
>> Great suggestion! I find that singing to my bird works wonders. He
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> Alan

Awwww they are cute, huh? My little guy also likes it when I whistle :-)
Phil D. - 07 Dec 2007 08:58 GMT
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>> Great suggestion! I find that singing to my bird works wonders. He loves
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>everything - even shredding :-)  If they are out then they come right up
>to my lips to see how I'm making the noise.

My budgies like it when I sit near their cage and make a low bass
rumble in the back of my throat. It seems to relax them. Sometimes it
even lulls them to sleep.
 
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