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Is This For the Birds?

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Dr. Strangemonde - 31 Jan 2008 09:28 GMT
Here's the deal: we've had 3 birds for most of a year -- 1 yellow male
'keet, one blue male budgie, and one green female budgie. They share a
cage by the bed and get "open cage" (free flight within the room)
hours from roughly 1-7pm daily. They get along with each other
famously and tolerate us humans pretty well, too!

So: a month or two ago, my g/f heard about a woman w/4 female budgie,
also all in one cage (3 hand-fed and one rescue) which the woman
turned out to not have time for. So we now have a quartet of chirpers
who have NEVER been out of their cage. The other three like to climb
around the outside of their cage and visit with them during the
afternoons, but apart from that, we're not really doing much more than
the original owner as far as expanding their horizons.

Opinions? I know we bit off more than we can chew --  none of the four
are capable of much more than panicked flying into walls if let out,
but I don't know how easy it'd be to find a guaranteed better
situation for the 4 gals. Would it be best if we got them clipped and
tried to work with all 4 at once at that point?

 - Dr Strangemonde
Starlight - 31 Jan 2008 13:30 GMT
>Here's the deal: we've had 3 birds for most of a year -- 1 yellow male
>'keet, one blue male budgie, and one green female budgie. They share a
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>
>  - Dr Strangemonde

Awwwww   That was so great of you to rescue them!  I'll bet your house
is LOUD at times.  :)

You don't say how long the woman had them, how old they are, so it's
hard to know if they can actually fly well.  When I rescued a
2-year-old English from a pet store, it was obvious she'd never been
allowed to fly because she had NO strength in her "flying muscles".
She tried to join the rest of our brood, who have free flight in the
bird room,  but ended up on the floor all the time.  After 2 years,
she can make it from one cage to another, but still has to work pretty
hard at it and can't maintain height for long.  

For that reason, I would discourage you from clipping your birds. It
will take so long for their feathers to grow back in, setting them
back even farther as far as muscle development.  It will also put them
in a bad position as far as being able to escape from your original
bunch. There will probably be some territory sparring for awhile
before all of the birds find their place in the hierarchy of your
home.

The challenge I see, as I'm sure you do too, is how you will get those
untame birds back into the cage once they're "let loose".  In our bird
room, we have 3 cages, a table with a playpen, 4 window perches and a
perch tree with 5 perches.  That provides plenty of places to perch so
if they do end up on a wild flight spree, they don't have to bang into
walls or windows searching for a place to safely land.  Hopefully your
room is set up to accomodate 7 free flying budgies comfortably and
safely.

If there's a way to let only 1 or 2 of the newest birds out at a time,
along with your original residents, that's how I would handle the
situation.  But they would have to be supervised closely to make sure
they're going to get along and won't be hurt by the new environment.
My birds tend to follow the lead of each other, so perhaps your older
birds will be able to lead the newer ones to 'safe ground' and even
back into a cage.  I'm thinking you may have a lot of work to do
before you let the newest birds fly free, but it will be worth it for
them.  Good luck!!
Becky
Dr. Strangemonde - 01 Feb 2008 04:08 GMT
> If there's a way to let only 1 or 2 of the newest birds out at a time,
> along with your original residents, that's how I would handle the
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> back into a cage.
> Becky

Sounds like something to try, at least. So far, unfortunately, in my
experience, I've seen more "bad bird teaches good bird negative trait"
scenarios than the other way around...

 - Dr S.
mc - 04 Feb 2008 04:46 GMT
I would bird proof the entire room, close the door and watch them!
Perches are a really good idea. If you can spend some time just
watching them they should be okay.

We have an African Gray and a Blue Fronted Amazon... both males. They
get along famously, even though the people we got them from said they
did not. Because I am here to supervise I have been able to allow them
to inter-react since we got them and in all this time there have been
no problems. In fact they are quite bonded with one another. LOL

Now, if I am not here I would not leave them unsupervised, but as it
is they pretty much have run of the house.

But I think with budgies, once you can see how they react to one
another, you will be fine. It will not take more than one day or so of
your supervision.

The Budgies would be remarkably easy to tame. It really only takes a
little persistence from their person.

If you don't feel like taming them, that is fine too, because when
they get hungry they will go back in their cage on their own. Birds
are dependent on a fairly regular routine, so it would not take more
than a week or two to get them into the routine and they will go back
into their cages all by themselves - whether they are hand tame or
not.

Just some thoughts for you.
Dave Bugg - 04 Feb 2008 18:59 GMT
> ..... It really only takes a
> little persistence from their person.

Huh? You said that it only takes a little persistance from *themselves*. Did
you mean to say, 'It really only takes a little persistance from their
owner.'?

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Alan Williams - 04 Feb 2008 21:56 GMT
>> ..... It really only takes a
>> little persistence from their person.
>
> Huh? You said that it only takes a little persistance from *themselves*. Did
> you mean to say, 'It really only takes a little persistance from their
> owner.'?

I think it means that the budgies own the person :-)

Alan
Dave Bugg - 04 Feb 2008 23:15 GMT
>>> ..... It really only takes a
>>> little persistence from their person.
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>
> I think it means that the budgies own the person :-)

Budgie slavery. Yup, that sounds about right  :-)

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