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Pet Forum / Birds / Birds / January 2004My Mitred Conure refuses to "step up" anymore!
I recently inherited a Mitred Conure who is 1 year old. He used to "step up" and let his previous owner hold him like a baby. Now he refuses to step up and I can't hold him long enough to clip his wings. Any suggestions? Oh, and he plucked 2 of his feathers out...what does that mean? Any wisdom is greatly appreciated..thanks! > I recently inherited a Mitred Conure who is 1 year old. He used to "step up" and let his previous owner hold him like a baby. Now he refuses to step up and I can't hold him long enough to clip his wings. Any suggestions? Oh, and he plucked 2 of his feathers out...what does that mean? Any wisdom is greatly appreciated..thanks! take him to the vet. no, wait, take him to your local bird care specialist. well, no, why are you posting here, just to get ton of criticism? oh, i forgot, buy a book. Seriously, does he bite? draw blood? if no, you just need to be more forcefull. my hand raised Quaker raised hell when trimmed, i had to put him into a sock w/holes for the wing. he would bite and squawk the whole time, but he never drew blood. afterward, we were still best buddies. you don't sound like you have much experience. don't trim too much, you can draw blood yourself. good luck, --Loren > > I recently inherited a Mitred Conure who is 1 year old. He used to "step up" and let his previous owner hold him like a baby. Now he refuses to step up and I can't hold him long enough to clip his wings. Any suggestions? Oh, and he plucked 2 of his feathers out...what does that mean? Any wisdom is greatly appreciated..thanks! > take him to the vet. no, wait, take him to your local bird care > specialist. well, no, why are you posting here, just to get ton > of criticism? oh, i forgot, buy a book. > > Seriously, does he bite? draw blood? if no, you just need to be > more forcefull. What a load of crap. >my hand raised Quaker raised hell when trimmed, > i had to put him into a sock w/holes for the wing. You demonstrate your cruelty and expect people to take your advice seriously? > > Seriously, does he bite? draw blood? if no, you just need to be > > more forcefull. > What a load of crap. No, it's not a load of crap. If the bird knows that a simple struggle is all that's necessary to get his way, a little more force may lead to it realizing that it's going to happen anyway, so fighting it may not be worth it. Birds are not born with the instinct to just lay there while there wings are getting clipped. They have to learn to tolerate it (not that all do) which can NOT be done by allowing the bird to get it's way. Using "force" does not mean to brutally assault. > >my hand raised Quaker raised hell when trimmed, > > i had to put him into a sock w/holes for the wing. > > You demonstrate your cruelty and expect people to take your advice > seriously? It's not really any different than toweling a bird, but then again he never said if it was a clean sock. -- Steve > > > Seriously, does he bite? draw blood? if no, you just need to be > > > more forcefull. [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > It's not really any different than toweling a bird, but then again he never > said if it was a clean sock. In view of the fact that I'm under the impression that the OP has only just recently aquired the bird, forcing it to do anything without giving it time to adjust is wrong, and if someone is a complete novice they have no business clipping wings without being shown how to do so by a competent professional. > In view of the fact that I'm under the impression that the OP has only just > recently aquired the bird, forcing it to do anything without giving it time > to adjust is wrong, Bullshit. According to my indian ringneck, within the first hour of meeting her I attacked her savagely, forced her wings open, and started chopping feathers off left and right. What happened after that? she became my best bud much sooner than any of the other birds I acquired as adults. It may not necessarily be the right thing to do, but it is not automatically wrong. > and if someone is a complete novice they have no > business clipping wings without being shown how to do so by a competent > professional. I am not a professional. Does that mean that after a dozen years (I'm not as old as you) of clipping my birds' wings as well as the wings of birds that belong to friends and family, that if I show a novice how to clip a bird's wings that they have no business actually trying it themselves? -- Steve Cant we all just get along. A group is supposed to support each other. whats going on here. Blowing each other up because of different view is crazy. You know what they say about opinions. There are many different ways to do things doesnt mean the other person is wrong just because They do it differently. Hey its a dog eat dog world!!!!! I feel she should take the bird into another room away from the cage. There are other websites that give good advise as well. If you cant get a good answer to your question here go somewhere else. I use several different references when I need information. Just to get the different views. That way I can form my own opinion by those suggested. > Cant we all just get along. A group is supposed to support each >other. Says who? >whats going on here. Blowing each other up because of different <view is crazy. You know what they say about opinions. There are >many different ways to do things doesnt mean the other person is >wrong just because They do it differently. Hey its a dog eat dog >world!!!!! Get a group of people together of all different ages, cultures, and countries and you are going to have different opinions and different ways of expressing those opinions. That's life. Don't let a few old grumps bum ya' out. This list has some good (and wise) folks in it. Ignore the rest. ~Kimberlee Thats ok I found a group where flaming is not allowed and I like that better anyway. I am just not a mean person and cant handle that crap. Thanks to all of the nice wonderful people I met and who helped me like Kimberlee and Aimee. Thanks guys come and join birdsrpeople2 I have met a bunch of grown adults who like to share opinions and share their misfortunes as well as their rewards. Barb Atta' girl, Barb! Thanks for the referral...I'll check it out. Keep me posted! ~Kimberlee > Thats ok I found a group where flaming is not allowed and I like that better anyway. I am just not a mean person and cant handle that crap. Thanks to all of the nice wonderful people I met and who helped me like Kimberlee and Aimee. Thanks guys come and join birdsrpeople2 I have met a bunch of grown adults who like to share opinions and share their misfortunes as well as their rewards. Barb Kimberlee just let them know that I invited you and they will gladly give you membership. As a matter of fact I got my new bird from a lady who lives just down the street. She is the Manager of the web page. Look forward to seeing you online. Barb > I recently inherited a Mitred Conure who is 1 year old. He used to "step up" and let his previous owner hold him like a baby. Now he refuses to step up and I can't hold him long enough to clip his wings. Any suggestions? Oh, and he plucked 2 of his feathers out...what does that mean? Any wisdom is greatly appreciated..thanks! How long have you had the bird? If not long, there is a good chance the bird will be grieving for his former owner. Birds form a strong bond to owners and cannot simply be passed about willy nilly and expected to somehow *know* that the new person is their carer from now on. Allow the bird time to settle in your home, with your routines etc and get to know you. Give him time. If you have never clipped wings before, take him to an avian vet to do the job rather than risk clipping blood feathers and allowing your pet to bleed to death. I recommend you also look online for information about conures, get some earplugs as mitreds are bloody loud, then get some books. I recommend, 'birds for dummies', 'guide to companion parrot behaviour', 'my parrot my friend' as a start. If you are not prepared to go to an avian vet or buy books, you are not dedicated enough to the birds wellbeing and should find it another home. Birds are high maintenance, intelligent beings, not simply feathered automatons. Conures are very loud and can give painful nips if you push them. I have one here, given to me last year by someone who couldn't cope with the noise. When he came he was very defensive and bit all the time as well as shouting at himself when he made a noise "be quiet, be quiet, you're stoopid, stoopid". Shows how the previous owners didn't consider what they were getting into, and how they treated him with disdain and abuse for doing what was natural. Be patient with your new bird, make allowances for his shyness, and treat him with some respect, learn all you can, and take him to an avian vet for a check up and wing trimming. If he has never been trimmed before, it will be traumatic and may start him feather plucking and if he tries to fly he will fall and possibly smash his breast bone open. |
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