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Steve - 27 Apr 2004 19:44 GMT
Okay, put your eyeballs back in your head.  You are not seeing things.  I am
actually starting a legitimate discussion.

Considering how long it's been since wild caught birds have been imported in
mass quantities and that most birds do die before their time, wild caught
birds are becoming a dieing breed.  I was just wondering how many of you
people still have a wild caught pet bird or two or three in your flock.
Also what species do you have and do you see any real difference between the
wild caught birds as pets after all these years and those that had been
handfed?

I have a wild caught blue crowned conure that I bought in '92.  He's an
ornery old cuss, but he does seem to trust me more than most of my handfeds
do.  Feet touching is no problem at all.  Neither is stretching out a wing
to see if it needs to be clipped.  Clipping his nails and wings is never a
problem and I never put it off because I don't feel up to the challenge like
I do with my sun conure that was a handfed baby.  The only real difference
that I see is that while my other birds range from giving little pinches to
a hard bite that's not intended to actually damage anything, my bcc is
determined to remove as much flesh as possible in a single bite - not from
me of course, from people who had moments earlier been warned not to do
something and ignored the warning.

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Debbie Krug - 27 Apr 2004 20:26 GMT
> Okay, put your eyeballs back in your head.  You are not seeing things.  I am
> actually starting a legitimate discussion.
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> --
> Steve - being curious

Interesting topic. Both of my birds were hand raised, but there is an amazon
that comes into the vet's office where I work. It was wild caught. We don't
have many birds come into the office, but of the ones we do get, this bird
is the easiest to wing and nail trim. He doesn't fight it at all.

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Peter Hucker - 28 Apr 2004 13:02 GMT
>> Okay, put your eyeballs back in your head.  You are not seeing things.  I
> am
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> have many birds come into the office, but of the ones we do get, this bird
> is the easiest to wing and nail trim. He doesn't fight it at all.

On the subject of wild-caught, I thought the UK had made it illegal.  In fact the RSPCA had Focus stop selling parrots when they found out.  Yet there are LOADS of wild caught birds still imported.

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peterbrainless - 28 Apr 2004 16:20 GMT
> On the subject of wild-caught, I thought the UK had made it illegal.  In fact the RSPCA had Focus stop selling parrots when they found out.  Yet there are LOADS of wild caught birds still imported.
>
> --
> How did the UK make it illegal hucker?
How many are imported and what species are they? Where did you get your information?
Wheeler - 27 Apr 2004 22:04 GMT
I have several wild caught birds in my breeding flock, none are pets, none
would I trust.  Most are excellent breeders.

Bob W

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> Okay, put your eyeballs back in your head.  You are not seeing things.  I am
> actually starting a legitimate discussion.
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> me of course, from people who had moments earlier been warned not to do
> something and ignored the warning.
pianoharp - 28 Apr 2004 13:55 GMT
> I have several wild caught birds in my breeding flock, none are pets, none
> would I trust.  Most are excellent breeders.
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>
> I've been told, for those of us who like the songs of canaries, we
wouldn't like a wild-caught canary's song too much.  I guess it's rather
plain.  Never heard one, though.
good golly Ms Molly - 28 Apr 2004 19:41 GMT
> > I've been told, for those of us who like the songs of canaries, we
> wouldn't like a wild-caught canary's song too much.  I guess it's rather
> plain.  Never heard one, though.

A wild caught canary? Didn't know there *was* such a beast. I thought
canaries were a domestic species or the wild serin or summat.
peterbraindead - 28 Apr 2004 20:33 GMT
> > > I've been told, for those of us who like the songs of canaries, we
> > wouldn't like a wild-caught canary's song too much.  I guess it's rather
> > plain.  Never heard one, though.
> >
> A wild caught canary? Didn't know there *was* such a beast. I thought
> canaries were a domestic species or the wild serin or summat.
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There are wild canaries, Serinus canarius from the Canary Islands. They are endangered and protected
and havent been exported for many years.
And they arent yellow!!
thehouse@pooh.corner - 29 Apr 2004 00:07 GMT
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><(((*> > > I've been told, for those of us who like the songs of canaries, we
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><(((*> A wild caught canary? Didn't know there *was* such a beast. I thought
><(((*> canaries were a domestic species or the wild serin or summat.

I understand that canaries still exist in the wild in the Canary
Islands, something like the wild budgerigars in Australia.

Not to be confused with the feral flocks descended from escaped
pets. (I've occasionally seen budgies flocking with sparrows in
Montreal, but only in the summer.)

Tara J. Ballance
Montreal, Canada
pianoharp - 29 Apr 2004 13:58 GMT
> ><(((*>
> ><(((*> > > I've been told, for those of us who like the songs of canaries, we
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> Montreal, Canada
> Wild budgies are fun to have around.  They're supposed to be quite common
in Florida.  If I could find the right accommodations for them, I'd set up a
birdhouse they'd use.  Maybe like a house wren's only a bit larger.
thehouse@pooh.corner - 29 Apr 2004 14:14 GMT
><(((*>
><(((*> > On Wed, 28 Apr 2004 19:41:12 +0100, good golly Ms Molly
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><(((*> in Florida.  If I could find the right accommodations for them, I'd set up a
><(((*> birdhouse they'd use.  Maybe like a house wren's only a bit larger.

It's about time for Marco to join this thread with his stories
about feral amazons.

Tara J. Ballance
Montreal, Canada
Marco - 29 Apr 2004 18:55 GMT
>> <(((*> > Wild budgies are fun to have around.  They're supposed to be
>> quite common
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> It's about time for Marco to join this thread with his stories
> about feral amazons.

Somebody called? :)
I haven't seen budgies yet, but I did get to see the amazons this morning
again... they hang out by a quakers' nest, about 2 blocks away, I can see
them from my bedroom window... actually, you can HEAR them from inside the
apartment. They be a noisy bunch. :)

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Marco - 29 Apr 2004 05:09 GMT
>> > I've been told, for those of us who like the songs of canaries, we
>> wouldn't like a wild-caught canary's song too much.  I guess it's rather
>> plain.  Never heard one, though.
>>
> A wild caught canary? Didn't know there *was* such a beast. I thought
> canaries were a domestic species or the wild serin or summat.

http://www.robirda.com/canari.html

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pianoharp - 29 Apr 2004 13:56 GMT
> > > I've been told, for those of us who like the songs of canaries, we
> > wouldn't like a wild-caught canary's song too much.  I guess it's rather
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> canaries were a domestic species or the wild serin or summat.
> I heard there are still wild ones ... at the Canary Islands so they said.
The article just said that the songs are much plainer.  It wasn't talking
about capturing them, but for those of us having wanted to hear flocks of
them in the wild.  It said that people are generally disappointed because so
much of the song is bred into canaries.  Of course breeders know that but
those of us who just enjoy them as pets might not have known that.
Marco - 27 Apr 2004 23:07 GMT
> I was just wondering how many of you
> people still have a wild caught pet bird or two or three in >your flock.

A TAG, open-banded '81, a female... ex-breeder, she's fine with people
now, never aggressive, except with other birds.

A BCC, cool birdie... sometimes moody, but gets along great with other
birds and people.

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Peter Hucker - 28 Apr 2004 13:04 GMT
>> I was just wondering how many of you
>> people still have a wild caught pet bird or two or three in >your flock.
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> A BCC, cool birdie... sometimes moody, but gets along great with other
> birds and people.

When you say "fine with" and "gets along" - exactly how tame are they?  Will they land on your shoulder?  Your hand?  Let you stroke them?  Kiss them?  Feed them by hand?

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