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Pet Forum / Birds / Birds / May 2004African Greys & Respondents to this group
Hi All Firstly let me tackle some of the respondents to this Newsgroup. I am surprized at the anomosity displayed by some respondents towards simple questions! Why take it out on them? I would expect a certain level of tolerance in people who subscribe to a birdlovers forum, but some of the responses are better suited to porno newsgroups! OK, that's off my chest! I find most of the postings very interesting as I have an African Grey who is 1.5 years old. I have never considered myself to be a bird person, but have amended my thinking quite considerably! These birds are an absolute joy to have! The level of affection they have can in my mind only be matched by my own (human) children. Does he make a noise when you want him to be quiet? Off course he does(although he tells the dogs to "stop it" and "keep quiet")! Does he sometimes make a mess of the living room? Off course he does! Everything that he does "wrong" is forgiven when he greets me when coming from work("Hello Pa", "Kissy Pa, thank you Baby"), when he consols my wife is she not well("Is Mommy okay", "Mommy sore, Mommy sick", "What's wrong Mommy") I am still to meet a bird with the level of intelligence and understanding as these lovable creatures! Okay, all the grumpy subscribers to this group, it is now open season to have your go at me! All others(the majority of respondents!) have a great day! Abe Venter Cape Town South Africa > Hi All > [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > > OK, that's off my chest! This is Usenet, it's un moderated, and open to all. You are going to get a lot of Spam of different kinds, and some "different" people. You can use a filter to block out the ones you don't want to read, but you're never going to "reason" with them. Their goal is attention, they feel they did not or are not getting from "life" <shrug> > I find most of the postings very interesting as I have an African Grey > who is 1.5 years old. I have never considered myself to be a bird [quoted text clipped - 21 lines] > Cape Town > South Africa As to the Grey, Parrots are an unbelievable pet, if you are a bird person. The larger ones can be more of a challenge because they make bigger messes, and can do more damage faster, but I could not imagine being with out my Macaw. Once they bond with family members they give back a ton of love for the mess they make.  Signature"I don't know the key to success, but the key to failure is trying to please everyone." Bill Cosby > Hi All > [quoted text clipped - 32 lines] > Cape Town > South Africa Hi Abe. The thing to do is just ignore the people whose posting style annoys you. I have a Grey also. Like you, I am amazed at their ability to say the right thing at the right time. Many people say they are just mimicking, but I don't think so. Yesterday I was cleaning the wall behind the bird cages. Dusty came over and said " hello, what are you doing?". I replied that I was cleaning the wall because they were dirty birds. She said " Good grief, splain that." I cracked up. -- Debbie, Dusty (CAG) and Casperella (U2) > Hi Abe. The thing to do is just ignore the people whose posting style annoys > you. I have a Grey also. Like you, I am amazed at their ability to say the [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > -- > Debbie, Dusty (CAG) and Casperella (U2) LOL, often I think birds are much smarter than they often let on. Signature"I don't know the key to success, but the key to failure is trying to please everyone." Bill Cosby "Alex Clayton" <alexx1400@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:ZE5tc.11713$ > LOL, often I think birds are much smarter than they often let on. > -- > "I don't know the key to success, but the key to failure is trying to please > everyone." > > Bill Cosby Boy, isn't that the truth! It is just part of their master plan to run the households they live in. -- Debbie, Dusty (CAG) and Casperella (U2) You know how greys combine words and sentences to make new combinations? Here's Bey's latest: <ring> (like the phone) "Hello? HI, Gotowork! Uh-huh...ok...buh-bye!" Starting at just after 9:00 each night Bey starts..."Dad gotta go to work!" said alternately in a happy and then a sad voice...because he knows that after dad leaves for work (about 9:20), Bey comes out for a few hours :). (.wav files of some of the things Bey says are at http://www.owly.net/Pets/BeyTalks.html if anybody is interested.) Signatureowly http://www.ittybittybirdiebites.com - healthy natural treats for birds MAY SPECIAL IS UP! www.ittybittybirdieibites.com/special0405.html 34 sprouting links! (Click on Sprouting Resources) UPDATED Nutrition Page! (Click on Nutrition) >Got seed junkies? http://groups.yahoo.com/group/seedjunkies NEW BOARD!! http://www.featherforum.com (referrer - chiaowl) > Hi Abe. The thing to do is just ignore the people whose posting style annoys > you. I have a Grey also. Like you, I am amazed at their ability to say the [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > cleaning the wall because they were dirty birds. She said " Good grief, > splain that." I cracked up. > You know how greys combine words and sentences to make new combinations? > Here's Bey's latest: [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] > >Got seed junkies? http://groups.yahoo.com/group/seedjunkies > NEW BOARD!! http://www.featherforum.com (referrer - chiaowl) Cool, Owly! Dusty started combining the dogs' names. Instead of calling Bailey, Gizmo, she calls " Beezmo" then laughs. -- Debbie, Dusty (CAG) and Casperella (U2) Beezmo - lolol - I love that! Isn't it something how they interject laughs at just the right time too? A sense of humor, if they indeed have one (my observations with my own flock would leave me to believe they do) is another sign of intelligence, I believe. :) Signatureowly http://www.ittybittybirdiebites.com - healthy natural treats for birds MAY SPECIAL IS UP! www.ittybittybirdieibites.com/special0405.html 34 sprouting links! (Click on Sprouting Resources) UPDATED Nutrition Page! (Click on Nutrition) >Got seed junkies? http://groups.yahoo.com/group/seedjunkies NEW BOARD!! http://www.featherforum.com (referrer - chiaowl) > Cool, Owly! Dusty started combining the dogs' names. Instead of calling > Bailey, Gizmo, she calls " Beezmo" then laughs. > Beezmo - lolol - I love that! > [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > Cool, Owly! Dusty started combining the dogs' names. Instead of calling > > Bailey, Gizmo, she calls " Beezmo" then laughs. Gota love them! My Macaw will often laugh after doing something like pinching hard enough to get a response or knocking something over. He tossed his (empty) plate at the cat one time as it was walking under his cage, then laughed. I have to believe he knows what he is doing. <G> Signature"I don't know the key to success, but the key to failure is trying to please everyone." Bill Cosby > > Beezmo - lolol - I love that! > > [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > the cat one time as it was walking under his cage, then laughed. I have to > believe he knows what he is doing. <G> Not only the larger parrots but smaller ones are clever too.'Jessibelle' my patagonian prodigy for example. This afternoon I was in the kitchen and she in the living room. One of the birds said "peek-a-bo" so I responded likewise. We did this for a few minutes with Jessibelle joining in when all of a sudden she said "peek........." clearly waiting. I said "...a-bo" and for a few times she repeated it, saying only "peek" and waiting. When there was a seconds quiet, I said "Peek" and without hesitation, she replied "a-bo". Of course she is very very intelligent and will wave her foot at me, and open her 'wingies' on command ad much more. She is about the most intelligent of my lot. Certainly the most responsive of them all. I'd probably love your Jessibelle as much as your Cuppy...that's very smart! Signatureowly http://www.ittybittybirdiebites.com - healthy natural treats for birds MAY SPECIAL IS UP! www.ittybittybirdieibites.com/special0405.html 34 sprouting links! (Click on Sprouting Resources) UPDATED Nutrition Page! (Click on Nutrition) >Got seed junkies? http://groups.yahoo.com/group/seedjunkies NEW BOARD!! http://www.featherforum.com (referrer - chiaowl) > Not only the larger parrots but smaller ones are clever too.'Jessibelle' my > patagonian prodigy for example. [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > open her 'wingies' on command ad much more. She is about the most > intelligent of my lot. Certainly the most responsive of them all. I'll probably never have one but the more I read about your macaw the more I'd like to get to know one! Signatureowly http://www.ittybittybirdiebites.com - healthy natural treats for birds MAY SPECIAL IS UP! www.ittybittybirdieibites.com/special0405.html 34 sprouting links! (Click on Sprouting Resources) UPDATED Nutrition Page! (Click on Nutrition) >Got seed junkies? http://groups.yahoo.com/group/seedjunkies NEW BOARD!! http://www.featherforum.com (referrer - chiaowl) > Gota love them! > My Macaw will often laugh after doing something like pinching hard enough > to get a response or knocking something over. He tossed his (empty) plate at > the cat one time as it was walking under his cage, then laughed. I have to > believe he knows what he is doing. <G> > I'll probably never have one but the more I read about your macaw the more > I'd like to get to know one! They are ALL fun. I like the bigger ones because of the puppy like play. Charlie is finally out growing this. For years I would often look forward to the time he would start to mature, but I knew I would also miss the active rough housing, and I do. As Old Molly's story shows though size has nothing to do with intelligence. I very well remember our little Love Bird, who used to have her own way to get attention. If she wanted interaction and felt she was not getting it, she would nip you, then when you yelled would run like hell for the other side of the couch and squawk at you. It was her version of a laugh, she was waiting to be picked up and handled. Once bonded with humans Parrots are quite the pet!!!! Does not really matter what species you have, as long as they are bonded with you. Signature"I don't know the key to success, but the key to failure is trying to please everyone." Bill Cosby > > I'll probably never have one but the more I read about your macaw the more > > I'd like to get to know one! [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > she would nip you, then when you yelled would run like hell for the other > side of the couch and squawk at you. Oh flipping heck Alex. Now I have tea all over my monitor lol. > It was her version of a laugh, she was > waiting to be picked up and handled. > Once bonded with humans Parrots are quite the pet!!!! Does not really > matter what species you have, as long as they are bonded with you. I really like the little 'uns a lot, especially all the conures and lovebirds and cockatiels and budgeis and parrotlets and....and....and :0) > > I very well remember our little Love Bird, who used to have her own way to > > get attention. If she wanted interaction and felt she was not getting it, [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > I really like the little 'uns a lot, especially all the conures and > lovebirds and cockatiels and budgeis and parrotlets and....and....and :0) LOL, don't you know you NEVER drink your coffee / tea while reading RPB <G> I do love my BCC, even though he is not as bonded to people as the B&G. He was wild when we got him, and was tamed, but you still have to be careful of him. He has done better since I decided to stop taking him outside. During the winter he was allowed flight, a little. In summer I would clip him so I could take him outside, but he is always scared to death of anything "new", and outside was always "new" so he was always scared. Now that the kids are grown I let him have full flight last winter, and just slowed him down this spring and he is inter acting with me more since he can just fly over when he feels like it. Seems to spend an hour or so at a time with me. It's funny now though. I put a small fan high up on one wall in my bedroom. Often Max (BCC) will come to me when I am working around the house and happily ride my shoulder. Now every time I walk into the bedroom, he see's that fan, lets go with a fear chirp. and fly's out the door LOL. Those damn bird eating fans <G>. It will be interesting to see how long it takes him to decide the fan does not eat green birds after all. Signature"I don't know the key to success, but the key to failure is trying to please everyone." Bill Cosby > LOL, don't you know you NEVER drink your coffee / tea while reading RPB <G> > I do love my BCC, even though he is not as bonded to people as the B&G. He [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > <G>. It will be interesting to see how long it takes him to decide the fan > does not eat green birds after all. I like birds that are not all reliably cuddle and docile. Perhaps the ability to fly gave him confidence. Without the ability he was never sure that he could get away from scarey things if he felt he needed to so he was over anxious. Now he kows that he can at any time, fly away, he feels braver in the knowledge? > I like birds that are not all reliably cuddle and docile. > Perhaps the ability to fly gave him confidence. Without the ability he was > never sure that he could get away from scarey things if he felt he needed to > so he was over anxious. Now he kows that he can at any time, fly away, he > feels braver in the knowledge? Well having flight has not seemed to do much for his "courage" yet anyway. <G> The fact he is so scared of a fan that was not there last week still makes me smile. A while ago I re did his window perch. He and the Tiel have a perch in the window with a bridge they can go over on and watch what goes on out front. I made it a couple years ago and it was getting worn out. I made a new one out of the same wood, just a couple feet longer, Max would not go NEAR it for a week. He loves it now of course. Does show they have a great deal of memory. The fact that he can spot one thing "new" in a room full of "stuff" shows he obviously knows the lay out of the entire house well enough to spot something out of place. Signature"I don't know the key to success, but the key to failure is trying to please everyone." Bill Cosby > Hi All > > Firstly let me tackle some of the respondents to this Newsgroup. i.e. invite the type of response you are about to address > I am surprized at the anomosity displayed by some respondents towards and easily distracting by shiny objects > simple questions! Why take it out on them? I would expect a certain > level of tolerance in people who subscribe to a birdlovers forum, but Personally, my tolerance of stupid people is very low. > some of the responses are better suited to porno newsgroups! You would know. > OK, that's off my chest! > [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > I am still to meet a bird with the level of intelligence and > understanding as these lovable creatures! So. What's your point? > Okay, all the grumpy subscribers to this group, it is now open season > to have your go at me! All others(the majority of respondents!) have a > great day! Why ask for the type of response that you are being negative about? > Abe Venter > Cape Town > South Africa Ah, that explains it. SignatureJames Personally Abe, I find most parrots to be MORE intelligent than most people. ;-) ______________________ www.scritches.com everything but the bird ______________________ > Hi All > [quoted text clipped - 32 lines] > Cape Town > South Africa |
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