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Pet Forum / Aquaria / Cichlids / May 2005Suicidal Oscar
I hava a young (5 inches) oscar alone in a 75 gallon tank. I have in there a UGF and a power filter, and the oscar somehow managed to jump through the power filter hole a few minutes before I got home from classes. I generally feed him three times a day, so I checked, didn't see him and looked around on the floor and found him still alive and returned him to the tank. The concern- I patched up the hole with a bit of screen and dropprd the water level several inches, so all is well in that regard. what I am wondering is whether I should go ahead and move him to a smaller tank in case he comes down with something from the ordeal. I have a 10 gallon quarentine tank available which, luckily enough I was fishless cycling to get a betta for, and over the past few days have noted the ammonia and nitrites at zero, therefore the water is relatively stable and if he does not need medicine, this won't hurt the cycle in this tank at all. I am new to aqarium keeping, although I have read a lot on the topic, but nothing I have read addressed care for recently untanked fish. > I hava a young (5 inches) oscar alone in a 75 gallon tank. I have in > there a UGF and a power filter, and the oscar somehow managed to jump [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] > I am new to aqarium keeping, although I have read a lot on the topic, > but nothing I have read addressed care for recently untanked fish. He'll be fine if he wasn't out of the water for too long. There are generally no aquatic parasites living dry on our carpets. ;-) I have lost jumpers to gill damage on occasion, but there's nothing to do for that. Leave him in the 75 he's used to so he doesn't get stressed any further. Have you tested the water to see if there's anything that could have made him jump, like high pH or ammonia? Oscars aren't known to be jumpers in general. Also, it would be good to put fresh carbon in your filter in case there was something in your tapwater from the last water change that he didn't like.  Signature__ Elaine T __ ><__'> http://eethomp.com/fish.html <'__>< hmm...ph=7.2 ammonia is undetectable...this one has always jumped a lot...just never out of the tank. I thought it was doing it to get my attention for food as it usually does it when begging. I have carbon in there, 2 physical/chemical filters for my aqua-tech 30/60. I change 1 of them every saturday with my water changes, so they shouldn't be anywhere close to saturation. If there is a water quality problem, I do an eight gallon water change today as soon as my oscar wakes up, if something else is the problem with the water, I guess this will fix it. I will take some water to my fish store to have them run more extensive testing tomorrow and ask their opinions, although he seems to be doing relatively well now, I want to make sure he will continue to remain healthy. Thank you for the advice. >hmm...ph=7.2 ammonia is undetectable...this one has always jumped a >lot...just never out of the tank. I thought it was doing it to get my [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] >relatively well now, I want to make sure he will continue to remain >healthy. Thank you for the advice. Your Oscar is jumping AT something, like a fly landed right there on the filter/heater stuff and he came clear out of the tank simply by accident. He wasn't/isn't jumping to attempt to get OUT of the tank on purpose because he doesn't like the water, if that is what is being speculated upon in this discussion of your water quality. All oscars I've ever had have jumped at stuff IIRC, they sit there eyeballing the surface sometimes, see something that might be food and jump for it. Do keep the Oscar in the large tank as suggested, no need to move it and medicate. -Derek >>hmm...ph=7.2 ammonia is undetectable...this one has always jumped a >>lot...just never out of the tank. I thought it was doing it to get my [quoted text clipped - 20 lines] > > -Derek I've had plenty of fish jump during acclimation to a new pH or hardness. I also had koi and goldfish jumping from my pond despite 0/0/5 ammonia/nitrite/nitrate and pH 7.2. I lost 3 fish in a week and replaced a lucky koi 3 times. Conditions seemed perfectly fine. A 50% water change and chemi-pure in the filter completely stopped the jumping behavior within 24 hours and I've not had a jumper since. So, yes fish jump for no reason. They jump for food, and they jump for fun. But IME they jump most frequently when they don't like the water. SignatureElaine T __ http://eethomp.com/fish.html <'__>< rec.aquaria.* FAQ http://faq.thekrib.com >So, yes fish jump for no reason. They jump for food, and they jump for >fun. But IME they jump most frequently when they don't like the water. Yeah, it's probably all that salt in there ;-) -Derek >>So, yes fish jump for no reason. They jump for food, and they jump for >>fun. But IME they jump most frequently when they don't like the water. > > Yeah, it's probably all that salt in there ;-) > > -Derek What??? They're not marine fish? ;-) SignatureElaine T __ http://eethomp.com/fish.html <'__>< rec.aquaria.* FAQ http://faq.thekrib.com Elaine wrote,, Oscars aren't known to be jumpers in general. There are generally no aquatic parasites living dry on our carpets Lady , your bloody paranoid about Parasites and chemicals. And you have got to be joking, hold a nice fat worm 3 inches above the water, "Say UP" and watch the buggers jump for the Worm. But it only works if you say "UP" But your Oscar will be OK, just give him a good feed of some nice feeder fish. He's bored, give him something to play with. I had a Ping-pong ball Selastic'ed to a bit of string attached to a rock, when I had Oscars, and they would spend hours bashing the sh.t out of it. bassett >> I hava a young (5 inches) oscar alone in a 75 gallon tank. I have in >> there a UGF and a power filter, and the oscar somehow managed to jump [quoted text clipped - 29 lines] > case there was something in your tapwater from the last water change that > he didn't like. > Elaine wrote,, Oscars aren't known to be jumpers in general. > There are generally no aquatic parasites living dry on our carpets > > Lady , your bloody paranoid about Parasites and chemicals. There is no need to curse at me. And I'm not the one who is so paranoid about chemicals he thinks they can never be removed from a fishtank. > And you have got to be joking, hold a nice fat worm 3 inches above the > water, "Say UP" and watch the buggers jump for the Worm. But it only works [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > they would spend hours bashing the sh.t out of it. > bassett Now, arowanas, hatchetfish, archers, shrimp, some killies, danios, swordtails - THOSE are jumpers and climbers. Just try keeping an adult arowana in a tank without a BIG rock weighting down the cover. Or not getting the cover tight on a hatchetfish or swordtail tank. Oscars...we had tanks and tanks of them and I never once found one on the fishroom floor. SignatureElaine T __ http://eethomp.com/fish.html <'__>< rec.aquaria.* FAQ http://faq.thekrib.com Well it proves one thing, I,m not in your Killfile. And I,ve got no idea what an " arowanas " is. Once again you fail to see, that we don,t have the range of fish , that you enjoy, simply because our quarantine laws are a lot better then the non existent laws you have. In your part of the world, you can keep what you like, providing your not caught smuggling it into the country. Once it's "IN" your legal. Doesn't work like that here. If your caught with something , that is not an excepted import. and everything has to go into a quarantine station for a fixed period of time. It's taken, confiscated, and unless you have import papers or quarantine certificates, you not only loose whatever it was, but you get fined or jailed . And we do the same thing with illegal imigrants, that attempt to land on the Northern parts of the coast. They get locked up and then deported. bassett >> Elaine wrote,, Oscars aren't known to be jumpers in general. >> There are generally no aquatic parasites living dry on our carpets [quoted text clipped - 20 lines] > had tanks and tanks of them and I never once found one on the fishroom > floor. > Well it proves one thing, I,m not in your Killfile. > [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > Northern parts of the coast. They get locked up and then deported. > bassett Toldja I decided not to killfile you. You and I may disagree, but I can live with it. You have some interesting viewpoints and I'm learning a bit about Australia. I'd like to go there...legally...one day. ;-) Arowanas are beautiful, 2-3 foot fish, best appreciated in public aquaria. They're surface predators, jumping out of the water to capture flying insects like dragonflies. The jumping behavior is VERY ingrained and big fish will sometimes jump the second you take the lid off of the tank. There are two Australian species, Scleropages jardini (saratoga) and Scleropages leichardtii (spotted barramundi) so you might find one in a public aquarium. Chinese consider them lucky, so some folks devote 8 foot tanks or even ponds to them. http://www.keiththibodeaux.com/Aquarium/arowana/intro.html is a pretty interesting article about them. Elaine T __ http://eethomp.com/fish.html <'__>< rec.aquaria.* FAQ http://faq.thekrib.com |
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