Thanks for the advice and the identification. The identification appears to
be dead-on (double points for deciphering those blurry pix :)
Of course my first time out looking for more agressive fish, I manage to
pick something in the top 5 killer scene. Other than the coloration change
when they atart to get older, is there a way t sex these fish now? I'd love
to be able to avoid males killing each other if I can avaoid it.
Right now I've got a 30 gallon tank, so I definitely don't want to overstock
it. I'm working on adding lots of rocky terrain now for these guys. It was
indicated I should add more of these if I can (I'll see what I can find
around here) or fish of equal size/agression - any specific suggestions?
-Dale
> I'm working on adding lots of rocky terrain now for these guys.
Just thought I'd throw out my experience on this. I know that "lots of
rocky terrain" providing hiding places is often recommended by advanced
fishkeepers and pros. I never liked that solution because I don't want my
fish hiding from *me*! I want to see them (go figure! :) ).
Anyway, I have found in my experience that having almost no place to hide
seems to work equally well. As long as other factors are controlled. Kinda
like the fish store scenario, who never have rocks and such (how do they all
survive in the fish store with barren tanks?). I do have some rocky
decorations, but they are aligned in such a way that when the fish "think"
they are hiding, they are facing outward to the glass and are clearly
visible to anyone peering into the front of the tank :) My "rocks" are
nothing but little upside-down U shapes.
Works for me. Not specifically recommending this, or trying to fly in the
face of other more experienced fishkeepers. Just stating that there *are*
other solutions.
I should add that I do other things as a compromise to control aggression
that some folks would not like to do. I never buy two of the same fish
(really helps!!!). I always buy similar sized fish. I try to pay attention
to the compatibility charts as well as I can. These things have allowed me
to keep the same 5 fish in the same 55-gal tank for almost three years now
with no aggression worth noting. Just happy fish, shoveling gravel all over
the place as they continually move my (fake!) plants around to positions of
their liking. LOL!
-Frank
Kim - 01 Jun 2005 16:15 GMT
Hi
I'm new to cichlids too! Just in the process of setting up my tank.
Here's a compatibility chart:
http://www.cichlidrecipe.com/cichlidchart/flashchartd.html
Here's a link to EVERYTHING you need to knnow about cichlids. The best
I've found anyway:
http://www.cichlid-forum.com
I hope these help
Good luck
Kim
NetMax - 03 Jun 2005 01:17 GMT
>> I'm working on adding lots of rocky terrain now for these guys.
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> -Frank
When I keep Africans in a 120g holding tank for a few weeks, there is
nothing in the tank. I'm quite confident that if they had a single rock
to fight over, there would be murderous chaos. It's not natural, but
it's healthier for them this way (for quarantine periods). I also keep
the lights dim and the tank is away from traffic, so they can stay calm
without their rocks to hide under.
Note to Dale, when I worked in a fish store, if a customer came to see me
complaining they have a fish which has killed every other tankmate *and*
everything they have tried to add, I would be about 95% correct in
telling them what kind of fish they had, Melanochromis auratus. In a
30g, I don't even females would leave each other unmolested for long. I
vote for exchanging them for something which is not in the top 5 for
aggression, like some Julies, Shellies or even Labs.

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Happy'Cam'per - 03 Jun 2005 12:32 GMT
> vote for exchanging them for something which is not in the top 5 for
> aggression, like some Julies, Shellies or even Labs.
I think his tank is way too small for a Labrador. ;)
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Cameron
Gazoo0 - 12 Jun 2005 02:38 GMT
I don't know ... Them there Chocolate and golden Labs sure like water.
;-]
Gazoo0
MrHappy - 04 Jun 2005 15:39 GMT
Yep Frank
keeping them with nothing in the tank and overstocked as they do in
the fish shop works as they can't form territories
If a pair forms watch out!!
If you have a dog...I suggest superglue on the paws then stick it
to its basket. Then you will always know where it is and be able to
see it easily
You have noticed that fish kept in LFS conditions tend not to fight
but...neither do they eat well, show their proper colors or behave
like fish but...hey what is fish keeping about?
Frankster - 04 Jun 2005 15:53 GMT
> but...hey what is fish keeping about?
Well, I've been thinking that I might extract my biggest Cichlid from my
tank and glue him to a plaque to hang on the wall.
-Frank
Gazoo0 - 12 Jun 2005 02:42 GMT
Fish ? You were talking about fish? I thought we were talking about gun
dogs!! Ooops! Hmmm..... I was sure he said Labs..lol.
take Care
Gazoo0