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dave349 - 13 Jan 2007 22:33 GMT hi, this is my first post here, i think (may have posted one other on here before). anyways, so i have a birthday coming up next month and i'm looking to get a bigger aquarium than the 29g that i have now. I'm looking at getting a 55-72g, and originally i was thinking of getting balas and oscars, but now i'm thinking of maybe a cichlid only tank. I definately want at least one oscar, but i don't want just one fish all by it self in there so what other fish couldi put in there? i heard somewhere that a jack dempsey could be a good tankmate, but i heard they are extremely territorial fish, convicts were other fish i have wanted to put in my 29g, but someone said they would terrorize the 5 gouramis i have there, so maybe those could go in with oscars? there's somebody who lives nearby who's convicts keep breeding and is selling baby's at $0.50 ea.
dave349 - 24 Jan 2007 22:53 GMT i guess this group has pretty much shut down then? no answers? anyways, in case any one does answer, i've changed my mind and i'm going for a Jack Dempsey tank, with the hopes of getting a breeding pair. I know i will need at least 6 in order to find a pair, but coudl any one else give me any tips or info on JD's?
> hi, this is my first post here, i think (may have posted one other on > here before). anyways, so i have a birthday coming up next month and [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > somebody who lives nearby who's convicts keep breeding and is selling > baby's at $0.50 ea. John - 25 Jan 2007 13:42 GMT >i guess this group has pretty much shut down then? no answers? anyways, > in case any one does answer, i've changed my mind and i'm going for a > Jack Dempsey tank, with the hopes of getting a breeding pair. I know i > will need at least 6 in order to find a pair, but coudl any one else > give me any tips or info on JD's? Jacks get upto 10" long. 6 in a 55 is way too many. They are easy to care for but will always be digging in the gravel and uprooting plants. Maybe you could just find a breeding pair. http://www.aquabid.com/ This is a good place to look.
Good luck, John
dave349 - 25 Jan 2007 17:12 GMT oh sorry i forgot to mention, i have found a place in my city that sells tanks for cheap, for now i'm going to get a 75g-150g, but most likely around 90 or 100g
> > in case any one does answer, i've changed my mind and i'm going for a > > Jack Dempsey tank, with the hopes of getting a breeding pair. I know i [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > Good luck, > John dave349 - 25 Jan 2007 17:12 GMT > > in case any one does answer, i've changed my mind and i'm going for a > > Jack Dempsey tank, with the hopes of getting a breeding pair. I know i [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > Good luck, > John Edward - 28 Jan 2007 17:49 GMT Hi Dave, I used to have a 125 gallon mixed south american chiclid tank. A lot of these fish can be mixed, but make no mistake even a 55 gallon tank is not that big to these fish. I read that you have gouramies with your chiclids, unless there large gouramies they will eventually be outgrown by your chiclids. Bala sharks are not an aggresive fish, they may be bullied by larger fish.If you need any other advice or help you can post here(I check stuff here about every week) or write me direct under the subject matter "Tropical Fish" Good Luck, Ed
dave349 - 28 Jan 2007 20:58 GMT ok thanks ed!, i have definately moved past the 55g idea, and am looking now at at least a 75, but mostlikely a 90+ tank. as for gouramis, those are in my 29g tank, and theres no cichlids in there, just 2 dwarf gouramis, 3 pygmy gouramis, 5 zebra danios and 3 serpae tetras. i do not have any cichlids in the house at the moment, i am planning on getting some after i get a big tank and it is cycled. and as of right now, i was planning on getting about 6 JD's to try and breed them, but i just do not have enough "grow out" tanks. so i am looking for cichlids that can mix.i was thinking maybe some convicts, and/or and couple oscars, with plans for another 55ish tank that i could move the oscars into when ever the convicts breed, or a tank divider.
> Hi Dave, I used to have a 125 gallon mixed south american chiclid tank. > A lot of these fish can be mixed, but make no mistake even a 55 gallon [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > text_html_part > 1KDownload Edward - 28 Jan 2007 23:53 GMT With good conditions convicts will breed about every couple of months. Some other fish I used to have in my big tank were Convicts, Texas Chiclids, Jack Dempseys, Large Black Sharks, Firemouths,Jewel Chiclids, Clown Knife Fish, and a large Leopard Eel. My catfish of choice was a Marble Shovelnose.
dave349 - 29 Jan 2007 00:21 GMT all those fish you've just mentioned are pretty much what i've been looking into, except for the eel, my mom has a no "no eel" rule, they creep her out lol.
> With good conditions convicts will breed about every couple of months. > Some other fish I used to have in my big tank were Convicts, Texas [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > text_html_part > 1KDownload dave349 - 29 Jan 2007 00:30 GMT currently i'm thinking of a set up of liek this
- 2 or 3 convicts - a jack dempsey and/or an oscar -and maybe a texas cichlid or a couple bala sharks or red tail shark.
> all those fish you've just mentioned are pretty much what i've been > looking into, except for the eel, my mom has a no "no eel" rule, they [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > > text_html_part > > 1KDownload Edward - 29 Jan 2007 14:30 GMT Everything there is good except the bala sharks and redtail, bala sharks are non aggressive, and red tails won't be big enough
dave349 - 29 Jan 2007 19:21 GMT oh ok then, so a
3 convict 1 JD or 1 oscar 1 texas and some other larger cichlid
would be a good set up?
> Everything there is good except the bala sharks and redtail, bala sharks > are non aggressive, and red tails won't be big enough > > text_html_part > 1KDownload Edward - 29 Jan 2007 21:37 GMT Depending on the size your gonna set up, I'd start with 2 convicts(the 3rd will cause problems) 2 Oscars, do like one albino and one red tiger, 2 JD's, and 2 texas. Of coarse you'll need a scavenger of some type,(Pleco, Channel Cat). Try to get pairs on the cichlids, they'll be happier that way.
dave349 - 30 Jan 2007 00:11 GMT well i was thinking about pairs, but the problem i thought would be is if i got 2 male, wouldn't they always be constantly fighting? if i got 2 females it woudl probably be ok and if i got a male and female that'd be fine.
> Depending on the size your gonna set up, I'd start with 2 convicts(the > 3rd will cause problems) 2 Oscars, do like one albino and one red tiger, [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > text_html_part > 1KDownload Edward - 31 Jan 2007 01:07 GMT The only ones you won't be able to sex are the oscars, all the others can be sexed by the length of there dorsal fins, and two male oscars will be ok together
dave349 - 31 Jan 2007 01:37 GMT oh ok thanks!
> The only ones you won't be able to sex are the oscars, all the others > can be sexed by the length of there dorsal fins, and two male oscars [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > [img] > Fishing From the Seawall dave349 - 31 Jan 2007 01:35 GMT > well i was thinking about pairs, but the problem i thought would be is > if i got 2 male, wouldn't they always be constantly fighting? if i got [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > > - Show quoted text - just i heard there's no real way to tell males and females apart when they're young.
Edward - 28 Jan 2007 17:51 GMT P.S. You should be able to sex JD's at about 3 to 4 " , males will have longer fins, just like convicts
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