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Renfeild12 - 06 May 2004 19:54 GMT
I just got a 120 gallon tank, can i put 4 oscars 3 tinfoil barbs 2 pl*cos in
it, "the guy at the fish store" says this will work any advice is greatly
appreiciated.  by the way i  had a single oscar in a 75 for about 5 years just
thought a couple more would be more fun. if not what about 3 tinfoil barbs 2
oscars 2 irredesent sharks 2 pl*cos                                   thanks
bottom feeder - 06 May 2004 22:29 GMT
> I just got a 120 gallon tank, can i put 4 oscars 3 tinfoil barbs 2 pl*cos in
> it, "the guy at the fish store" says this will work any advice is greatly
> appreiciated.  by the way i  had a single oscar in a 75 for about 5 years just
> thought a couple more would be more fun. if not what about 3 tinfoil barbs 2
> oscars 2 irredesent sharks 2 pl*cos                                   thanks

Keep it at 1 pl*co, 3 oscars, and trade the tinfoils off for some
severums or other large cichlid and I'd think it'd be great.  Forget
about the sharks, though, they get 36" full grown and have a delicate
temperment.

--
dan
Cookie - 07 May 2004 02:30 GMT
> I just got a 120 gallon tank, can i put 4 oscars 3 tinfoil barbs 2 pl*cos in
> it, "the guy at the fish store" says this will work any advice is greatly
> appreiciated.  by the way i  had a single oscar in a 75 for about 5 years just
> thought a couple more would be more fun. if not what about 3 tinfoil barbs 2
> oscars 2 irredesent sharks 2 pl*cos                                   thanks

Perhaps 3 new oscars instead of 4. They can grow to a foot you know.
If you have had a single oscar for 5 years, then it must be pretty
big. I guess that my biggest concern is that if you introduce the 3-5
inch oscars at the pet store (however, some pet stores may have bigger
ones), and if your oscar is huge, then your present oscar may bully
the new and smaller ones. Try to get the 2 largest (and healthy -
important!) oscars you can, and set up them up in your 75 next to/in
the same room as the 120 (if possible) with your big oscar so they can
see each other (good to do anyway 'cause of potential disease from new
fishes.)

Also, to reduce the high amounts of ammonia etc in a newly established
tank, pump roughly 30%-40& of the water from your 75 into your 120 and
then fill the rest with freshwater. That way, your 120 will establish
quicker. Still, don't introduce the 3-4 oscars, 3 tinfoils, & 2 plecs
all at once. That can cause your ammonia, etc, to sky rocket in a new
tank.

Sorry this is long,

-Cookie
Renfeild12 - 07 May 2004 04:38 GMT
the oscar in the 75 is big (about 12 inches)and very mean he is staying in
there by himself!! going to start the 120 with all babies think i am going to
go with 2 oscars 3 tinfoil barbs (just think they look real cool full grown)
still want 2 Pl*cos though... just curios why does everyone keep telling me to
keep it at 1 pl*co?
Cookie - 07 May 2004 15:54 GMT
> the oscar in the 75 is big (about 12 inches)and very mean he is staying in
> there by himself!! going to start the 120 with all babies think i am going to
> go with 2 oscars 3 tinfoil barbs (just think they look real cool full grown)
> still want 2 Pl*cos though... just curios why does everyone keep telling me to
> keep it at 1 pl*co?

1 plec because 1) they get big 2) as they get big, they get extremely
aggressive with one another.

Tinfoil barbs DO NOT grow to 3 feet!! A foot to a foot and a half
maximum. You arrangement sounds fine to me. Perhaps if you do get 2
plecs, after a while you could put one in with your mean oscar.

--Cookie
RedForeman ©® - 07 May 2004 15:57 GMT
||| just curios why does everyone keep telling me to keep it at 1 pl*co?

Honestly, the common pl*co is fine, until it gets to be 8" or so, then it
becomes a poop factory... Literally, it can poop more than any 30" of fish
could.... but another reason it's almost non-preferrable, is after it hits
6" or so, it stops eating algae and grazes on driftwood... atleast mine has
forgotten what algae tastes like, it now prefers, and will tell me it wants
zuchini...

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is that better??

bottom feeder - 07 May 2004 16:43 GMT
> ||| just curios why does everyone keep telling me to keep it at 1 pl*co?
>
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> forgotten what algae tastes like, it now prefers, and will tell me it wants
> zuchini...

I always wondered if they actually eat the wood or are grazing on stuff
growing on the wood.  Anyone know?

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dan
RedForeman ©® - 07 May 2004 17:10 GMT
|| RedForeman ©® wrote:
|||||| just curios why does everyone keep telling me to keep it at 1
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|| I always wondered if they actually eat the wood or are grazing on
|| stuff growing on the wood.  Anyone know?

AFAIK, they will graze on algae on all surfaces, but require to some extent,
a wooden source of fiber, they 'rasp' their jaws across it like a sandpaper,
and munch on the dust so to speak...
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is that better??

Happy'Cam'per - 10 May 2004 14:50 GMT
I think its the cellulose they're after on the wood, apparently aids with
digestion.
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> > ||| just curios why does everyone keep telling me to keep it at 1 pl*co?
> >
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> --
> dan
Wm Hopkins - 07 May 2004 17:26 GMT
> 1 plec because 1) they get big 2) as they get big, they get extremely
> aggressive with one another.
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
>
> --Cookie

The 36" reference was to the rainbow sharks not the T-barbs
Charlie Durand - 11 May 2004 04:16 GMT
Skip the tinfoil barbs and please skip the plecos.. definitely not two of
them.  I never see the benefits of plecos.. they might get rid of algae but
mine always poop these really long tirds that never disappear.

I'm partial to Oscars though.  I'd just go with the four Oscars.  The one
you have is probably good size so you'll have to make sure you buy big tank
mates.

> I just got a 120 gallon tank, can i put 4 oscars 3 tinfoil barbs 2 pl*cos in
> it, "the guy at the fish store" says this will work any advice is greatly
> appreiciated.  by the way i  had a single oscar in a 75 for about 5 years just
> thought a couple more would be more fun. if not what about 3 tinfoil barbs 2
> oscars 2 irredesent sharks 2 pl*cos                                   thanks
Renfeild12 - 11 May 2004 11:09 GMT
Why skip the tinfoil barbs? And as far as the pl*cos i wasnt getting them for
the benifits just think they look really cool and are a nice looking addition
to a tank.
Charlie Durand - 11 May 2004 16:41 GMT
I was re-thinking your choices for you.  Sorry about that.. you just wanted
to know if all that would work in the tank.

You didn't mention the filtration you'll be using on this 120 gallon tank.

> Why skip the tinfoil barbs? And as far as the pl*cos i wasnt getting them for
> the benifits just think they look really cool and are a nice looking addition
> to a tank.
Renfeild12 - 11 May 2004 18:33 GMT
its allready set up with a large wet dry and 3 canister filters
Renfeild12 - 11 May 2004 18:35 GMT
oh yeah and no problem re-thinking my choices, any input is appreciated, alot
of people are telling me to not get the barbs just wondering why
bottom feeder - 11 May 2004 20:15 GMT
> oh yeah and no problem re-thinking my choices, any input is appreciated, alot
> of people are telling me to not get the barbs just wondering why

I really think you'd need a larger school than just three, but that's
just IMO.  I've heard they can be fin nippers, but I haven't actually
seen any that were.

--
dan
RedForeman ©® - 11 May 2004 20:39 GMT
|| oh yeah and no problem re-thinking my choices, any input is
|| appreciated, alot of people are telling me to not get the barbs just
|| wondering why

The main reason I think most ppl dont' like TFBs, are they are sparatic,
quick, and can make for, yes, an interesting tank, but on the other end of
the spectrum, most ppl, myself included, like to have a centerpeice fish,
like one big fish, or a school, and dithers...  your TFBs and Oscars are
both good fish in their own rights, but rarely are they mixed, but
considering you have a 120g, you've got room... but remember, it's your
tank... and if it's your first, my bet is, you'll outgrow your fondness for
them in about 3 months or less.... just a guess.....

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is that better??

JOHN TYCE - 26 May 2004 04:19 GMT
It will work fine as long as you get a 120 gal long tank. I am basing this
on the assumption that Oscars are bottom dwellers. I raise African, so am
not extremely knowledgeable on Oscars. 120 gallons is a nice size tank,
offering allot of territory. If they are bottom dwellers, a longer tank
provides more territory resulting in less fighting. If you have a tall tank,
you need to get fish that are not only compatible, but also with layered
territories. What I mean by this is: some top dwellers, mid to top dwellers,
and bottom dwellers. If you do it this way, you can take better advantage of
the territory. But remember, more fish mean more water changes. I have a
medium to large Frontosa, Tangerine Tiger, Red Empress, Nagara Flametail,
and a Jewel Cichlid in a 55 gallon tank. It works fine. They have plenty of
holey rock caves to go around and it works well. I do a 40% water change
once a week, and have double to needed filtration. My fish thrive under
these conditions.

JOHN TYCE
> I just got a 120 gallon tank, can i put 4 oscars 3 tinfoil barbs 2 pl*cos in
> it, "the guy at the fish store" says this will work any advice is greatly
> appreiciated.  by the way i  had a single oscar in a 75 for about 5 years just
> thought a couple more would be more fun. if not what about 3 tinfoil barbs 2
> oscars 2 irredesent sharks 2 pl*cos                                   thanks
 
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