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*xVx* - 10 May 2004 00:45 GMT
on 2 seperate occasions bloodworms have almost instantly made my tiger barbs
sick. one would not eat after the BW's for 3 or 4 weeks, he is only now
coming back to normal, the other seemed to instantly develop paralysis on 1
side of his body only being able to swim to 1 side,  he is getting better
too.
could it be "bad frozen bloodworms" or has anyone had any similar
experiences?
CanadianCray - 10 May 2004 00:48 GMT
I hope not I just gave blood worms to my cichlids for the first time.

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> on 2 seperate occasions bloodworms have almost instantly made my tiger barbs
> sick. one would not eat after the BW's for 3 or 4 weeks, he is only now
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> could it be "bad frozen bloodworms" or has anyone had any similar
> experiences?
luminos - 10 May 2004 05:03 GMT
Just like any food, if these frozen bloodworms were allowed to defrost and
then refreeze bad things can happen.

> on 2 seperate occasions bloodworms have almost instantly made my tiger barbs
> sick. one would not eat after the BW's for 3 or 4 weeks, he is only now
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
> could it be "bad frozen bloodworms" or has anyone had any similar
> experiences?
LadyBug@Invalid.EmailAddress.com - 10 May 2004 11:39 GMT
>Just like any food, if these frozen bloodworms were allowed to defrost and
>then refreeze bad things can happen.
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>> could it be "bad frozen bloodworms" or has anyone had any similar
>> experiences?

What type of cichlids are you feeding bloodworms too?
*xVx* - 11 May 2004 00:35 GMT
none i surely wouldnt feed my convicts bloodworms that made my tiger barbs
sick, why do you ask??

> >Just like any food, if these frozen bloodworms were allowed to defrost and
> >then refreeze bad things can happen.
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> What type of cichlids are you feeding bloodworms too?
jk - 10 May 2004 17:45 GMT
> on 2 seperate occasions bloodworms have almost instantly made my tiger barbs
> sick. one would not eat after the BW's for 3 or 4 weeks, he is only now
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
> could it be "bad frozen bloodworms" or has anyone had any similar
> experiences?

  Ask at the store you bought them from. I've had bad frozen live food
before. All it can take is a thaw, and refreeze at any level of the
delivery, including the store itself.

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JOHN TYCE - 26 May 2004 04:04 GMT
I have many large cichlids and I feed them frozen blood worms all of the
time. I always buy my frozen foods from a major chain such as Petsmart. I
have never had any problems. Blood worms are really more suited for
carnivores rather than omnivores such as your Tiger Barbs. The blood worms
tend to stay in there systems longer and causes them to get bloat. The
staple of my carnivores cichlid's diets are frozen brine shrimp. These are
recommended more Lake Malawi omnivores rater than blood worms because of
their tendency to get Malawi Bloat. You could have gotten a bad batch of
blood worms, but most likely brine shrimp will better agree with your
omnivorous cichlids.

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> on 2 seperate occasions bloodworms have almost instantly made my tiger barbs
> sick. one would not eat after the BW's for 3 or 4 weeks, he is only now
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
> could it be "bad frozen bloodworms" or has anyone had any similar
> experiences?
Mean_Chlorine - 27 May 2004 22:51 GMT
> could it be "bad frozen bloodworms" or has anyone had any similar
> experiences?

Yeah, it's possible. You're lucky you fed them to hard-as-nails fish
like barbs - I killed a tankful of more sensitive fish with
bloodworms. Within just a few days they developed dropsy (intestinal
bacterial infections) and died.

It's much harder to tell when bloodworms are off than when, say, white
or black mosquito larvae are. Plus bloodworms are strongly allergenic
to humans.

I simply don't feed it anymore. Not worth the risk.
Jonathan Wood - 28 May 2004 20:00 GMT
Were the bloodworms that gave you trouble frozen? Have you tried live
blackworms or are you avoiding those as well?

Jonathan

> > could it be "bad frozen bloodworms" or has anyone had any similar
> > experiences?
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> I simply don't feed it anymore. Not worth the risk.
Mean_Chlorine - 29 May 2004 00:59 GMT
> Were the bloodworms that gave you trouble frozen? Have you tried live
> blackworms or are you avoiding those as well?

They were frozen, and had probably died, and started to rot, before
being frozen. I know they smelled slightly, but not very, 'funky', and
the water the worms were thawed in turned red, but like an idiot I
thought "it's probably nothing" and fed them to the fish. You'd think
I'd have learned not to feed things I'm uncertain of the quality of,
but no. Basically I think the fish got food poisoning, always a risk
with fatty foods.

I don't think it was the bloodworms in themselves that caused the
dropsy, I think that with live worms, my fish would still be alive.

However, even the live worms are, AFAIK, allergenic to humans, and
since I already have one allergy (birch pollen) I would personally
avoid exposure also to live worms.
 
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