Is this HITH - Oscars?

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Trevor - 19 Jun 2004 22:47 GMT

Following on from my previous posts about salt concentrations, I am sure I
have identified HITH in my Oscars

See pictures at www.geocities.com/thereaperman69 (picture is 51kb) or for
real quick download ww.geocities.com/thereaperman69/index2.html (picture
16kb low quality)

I only really noticed what I believ is the HITH becasue of some white
thingys hanging off the oscars head coming from where those whitish
streaks are marked on the picture.

After adding salt (0.1% / 1000ppm) the next mroning they were gone but the
whitish patches remain - visible from and upward angle catching the lights
full on.

I have found information regarding treating HITH (basically salt, gravel
vac and frequent water change, better and varied diet and reducing stress
and raising temp and failing all those treat for Hexamita)

I just really need confirmation and to know how bad this case is.

Tank setup

1500mm x 600 x 600 or 5 foot x 2 x 2
2 oscar
2 dempsey
2 firemouth
2 peacock

Other fish fine and demspesy spawning every two weeks for last 6!
Oscars eating well but being stressed a little by demspeys during
spawning. Peacocks probably should not be there (I know)

Ammonia 0
ph 7 - 7.4 ish (lost colour chart!)
no other test kits
Will be buying a nitrate kit tomorrow and expect to see elevated levels as
I probably have not been doing water change/ gravel vac as frequently as
I should.

Thanks in advance

Trev

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Mark Stone - 20 Jun 2004 16:26 GMT

> Following on from my previous posts about salt concentrations, I am sure I
> have identified HITH in my Oscars
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>
> Trev

After looking at the picture, I don't think it's HITH (but I may be
wrong). HITH would be characterized by large craters, usually along
the lateral lines.

If you still think it may be HITH, here's two sites to visit:

http://www.geocities.com/cichlidiot_2000/disease.html

and

http://www.worldcichlids.com/diseases/Adamhith.html

The first website is my own and I include a step-by-step description
of how I treated an outbreak of HITH in one of my Oscar aquariums a
few years ago. The second site at worldcichlids is, in my opinion, the
most balanced HITH site there is these days with excellent
information.

Good luck!

--Mark

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Toni - 20 Jun 2004 17:11 GMT

> > I only really noticed what I believ is the HITH becasue of some white
> > thingys hanging off the oscars head coming from where those whitish
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> > whitish patches remain - visible from and upward angle catching the lights
> > full on.

It is also possible that the whitish slimy patches are an increase in the
fish's slime coat in response to the salt.
Can't say for sure- is there actual erosion in any area?

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Trevor - 20 Jun 2004 18:35 GMT

> It is also possible that the whitish slimy patches are an increase in the
> fish's slime coat in response to the salt. Can't say for sure- is there
> actual erosion in any area?

I don't believe so as the whitish areas were there before I added salt. A
my reply to Mark states I am palying the waiting game with improved care
levels

Trev

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Trevor - 20 Jun 2004 18:34 GMT

> After looking at the picture, I don't think it's HITH (but I may be
> wrong). HITH would be characterized by large craters, usually along the
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> http://www.geocities.com/cichlidiot_2000/disease.html

Thanks Mark I seem to recall your site from years back - before I started
keeping fish while I was doing research. I am gleaning all sorts of useful
info.

> and
>
> http://www.worldcichlids.com/diseases/Adamhith.html

> The first website is my own and I include a step-by-step description of
> how I treated an outbreak of HITH in one of my Oscar aquariums a few years
> ago. The second site at worldcichlids is, in my opinion, the most balanced
> HITH site there is these days with excellent information.

I had already looked at the adamhith page after some googling and that is
here I made my tentative diagnosis the small litle craters filled
with white dots that are shown on the picture of the pair of oscars
look remarkably similar to what my fish have

However HITH or not, I believe that the advice given on yours and adams
articles is good and will not harm my fish as the salt concentraiton I am
using is relatively low and no meds will be involved at this stage. Also
the more frequent water change / gravel vac and better food will only be a
good thing. I will keep my eye and see.

BTW Today I spotted another little white clingy thingy attached to one of
the whitish veins in the shiny patches on the head (!) but it was gone
some hours later.

> Good luck!

Thanks

Trev

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