I went down to the river and gathered several buckets of large-ish rocks, to
put in the 55g. I had attempted to do several things with it, but as many
have said before, a 55g 4' tank, is limited, it's the depth that gets ya...
So I'm going to organize a mound that reaches 3/4 to the top, stacked on one
side, with a small pile on the other end. Something like this.
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| Q ____--- _____ O |
| / \__/ \ O _______ |
| / \ O / \ |
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Q- powerhead
--- canister filter output
O canister filter input
ok, so are my filters positioned ok or could they be improved upon?? The
right side seems to need something to continue pushing the water around... I
have another powerhead, but don't want to create a whirlpool... hahaha...
anyway....
It's planned to be a malawi tank, mostly zebras and peacocks... Do they have
issues with currents????
Other than that, I had thoughts of putting instead of the malawis,
Curviceps, Severums and Kribs... So Curviceps and Severums are SA cichlids,
and the kribs are africans... but all tolerate a wide pH range, right? the
SAs like harder water, which will be ok, and if the kribs dont' like it,
there will be other accomodations arranged, very easily....
So whattaya think about the 'plan'??
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Amateur Cichlids - 09 Jul 2004 22:56 GMT
> I went down to the river and gathered several buckets of large-ish rocks, to
> put in the 55g. I had attempted to do several things with it, but as many
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> So whattaya think about the 'plan'??
Red
If you go with the Malawi's, I wouldn't mix Mbuna with Peacocks.
Aulonocara species are not as aggressive as the Metriaclima and
Pseudotropheus species. That, and a 55 is really too small for most Zebra's.
(Well, all zebra's IMO. ) Also, the Aulonocara would benefit from a varied
diet, including white worms and brine shrimp occassionally, where the
Metriaclima species should be a diet of spirulina for the most part.
South American cichlids enjoy soft acidic water. It's the Central
American cichlids that like hard alkaline water. I currently have Severums
with Curviceps and the Severums are a bit hard on them. I'd suggest a pair
of curviceps and a pair of kribs, then the rest of the tank filling with
dither fish. There are numerous varieties of rainbow fish that are quite
attractive.
Amateur
NetMax - 10 Jul 2004 18:39 GMT
> > I went down to the river and gathered several buckets of large-ish rocks,
> to
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> Amateur
I agree. While you could compromise on the dietary requirements, the
available space will just not accommodate that mix when they age.
Another option is to stay with smaller Africans. Instead of
Metriclima/Pseudotropheus, look into Neolamprologous, Julidrochromis and
other small rock dwellers. Of the Pseudotropheus, Demasoni are still an
option, but I think they compromise your menu again, and the Neos/Julies
don't. With this mix, you might have 3 of the smaller Auloncara or other
open water types, or just go into dither fish as Amateur suggested.
I've had better experiences with Curviceps & Severums co-habituating, but
they all started together young and they had their own 'playgrounds'. I
think your setup would accommodate both and some Kribs, though there
would be some growing adjustments when the Kribs spawned, and then later
when the Curviceps spawned (I'm thinking curviceps such as Acaras or
smaller).
Call me a fool, but I'd even put a half-dozen Rams in there for about a
month before adding the other fish (and some dither, Scissortail rasbora,
Torpedo barbs etc). Ordinarily, the Rams would be pushed out, but with
enough rockwork (as indicated), and starting with the Rams first, then
juvenile Kribs (4 or 5), then juvenile Acaras (3 or 4), and then juvenile
Severums (4 or 5, or split the quantity with some Flag cichlids 3+3?),
you just might hit a mostly happy equilibrium.
*Warning*, my advice often pushes the envelope (and I use my other tanks
for overflow & problem resolution). Seek other experienced and more
conservative advice before you decide anything ;~)

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That's why I asked these silly questions to get those envelope pushing
answers... But I will put another couple of weeks of thought into it...
Get the research done, and it'll still be a month before I do it...
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Thanks for that... I'm always on the fence about which direction to go,
sometimes I try to mix it up, but it seems it's not the best idea...
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John - 10 Jul 2004 22:51 GMT
>I went down to the river and gathered several buckets of large-ish rocks, to
>put in the 55g. I had attempted to do several things with it, but as many
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>So whattaya think about the 'plan'??
Also, Red, be aware that the typical 55 gallon tank is very much an
ecomony tank, and is not all that sturdy. My concern is that you have
collected what sounds like quite a few pounds of Tennessee river rock
and plan to pile it high. I advise caution here!
Use florescent lighting diffusers (eggcrate) under the rock to
distribute the stress on the glass bottom. Also, silicone your rocks
into "subassemblies" using groups of 3 or 4 rocks. Then you can
inter-lock these to create rockwork that is less likely to shift and
fall against the side glass. Have fun!
John
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That has been a worry of mine, since I got the rocks... but am hoping to not
create too much stress on the underlying floor... the tanks been well
'braced' so to speak... several layers of plywood under it to disperse the
weight... the glass on the other hand, it's not an economy model it's got
4.5mm glass... seems ok, double braced across the top and bottom... I'll
have to dbl check that tonite...
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NetMax - 13 Jul 2004 04:18 GMT
> || On Fri, 9 Jul 2004 14:48:02 -0400, "RedForeman ©®"
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> 4.5mm glass... seems ok, double braced across the top and bottom... I'll
> have to dbl check that tonite...
4.5mm!? Must be a typo, maybe 14.5mm! I'd expect the base of a 55g to
be 12 to 15mm thick. I think Red is just checking to see how carefully
we are reading his posts ;~)
btw, excellent points from John.

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Maybe a typo, wasn't actually thinking at the time, but yep, 4.5mm is WAY
too small... I'll have to yank out the ole micrometer and check that.. I
forgot lastnight....
it's not an AGA tank, but it's not bowing like my unbraced 29g is... it's
1/2" out in the center... almost scary...
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