Pet Forum / Birds / Parrots / January 2004

Tony?  Have I missed something?

Treat your fish like you'd treat your children?
Do you take your fish to the park?  Does it play on the swings? Does it play
catch?
You are an IDIOT

Unfortunately, it is not just this newsgroup.  Most have people with strong or
extreme views who are not afraid to show it.  Asbestos suits should be
required attire for participants.  However, the people here do care about
their tiels.  Written news groups do not always bring out the best in people
or their communication skills.

I'm glad you are taking the time to look the subject prior to making a leap
into getting a tiel.  To many people get a pet, not knowing enough.  If you do
want a tiel, don't necessarily buy the first one that you see, and get one if
possible that was hand reared.  I suggest this as for a first time owner, you
want an easier adjustment period.

When my wife was considering a bird, she wanted a budgie.  With prior
experience, however, I wanted her to look a tiels.  When we went to the store,
she first looked at budgies.  After that, she went on to the tiels where she
excitedly called me over.  She couldn't believe it but one of the tiels was
following her around the cage.  The others couldn't be bothered.  Needless to
say, we went home with her, and now have 2 other tiels.

Brad

What was wrong with telling someone to buy a book so they can learn to take
care of their bird?

or your earlier post about birds eating

Did you happen to read the rest of that post or are you just skimming thru
to get some ammo for your bitching.

Well, then I hope you are learning something... one thing you should get in
your head is that one of the responsibilities of pet ownership is to provide
medical care whenever needed. That doesn't mean you need to run to the vet
everytime your bird sneezes... but, damn... some people are just stupid or
dense or ignorant or just don't care... I personally am sick and tired of
people asking for medical advice on their bird who is laying on the bottom
of the cage, bleeding, convulsing and with it's innards sticking out from
it's rear (and you can google the pet newsgroups and you'll find I'm not
exagerating) and then they come here hoping someone 'online' will diagnose
the bird, wave a magic wand and solve all their problems. It doesn't work
that way.
Regarding vets: If you don't know of any, grab the damn yellow pages, call
411, check online for avian vets, and if you're posting here at least give
some info as to your general location, maybe someone can help you find a vet
near you. And when and if you do get a bird, take the bird for a check up,
not only for an inital inspection, but to stablish a relationship with the
doctor and make sure there's someone available if needed in case of an
emergency. Your vet should be the first line of help in case you bird needs
care... not a bunch of strangers in a newsgroup.
Here's my 4 points to consider BEFORE anyone gets a parrot as a pet:
-A parrot is a parrot is a parrot..... it is not a dog/cat/horse/etc.... a
parrot is a wild animal, just a couple of generations (if that) removed from
the wild. And it will behave as such. Succesful parrot owners know that it
is usually THEM who end up changing and adapting to, and 'making room' for
the parrot, not the other way around.
-Parrots are noisy... even the little ones can cause a rackett! There's no
way around it. It is how they communicate.
-Parrots are messy... a never ending cycle of cleaning and scrubbing and
steaming and sweeping and vacuuming.
-Parrots are expensive... take all these in consideration: upfront price of
bird, roomy cage, playstand, toys, special food, fresh foods, more toys,
routine vet care, emergency vet care.....etc, etc, etc. When you come to
think of it, there isn't a 'cheap' parrot.
-Demanding... love, attention, hard work, understanding, acceptance, money,
etc. etc. etc.

For some reason you remind me of a certain someone that frequents this group
once in a while (unless his isp shut down his account along with his
website -sssssssshhhhhhh- and I will NOT mention his name, but it rhymes
with 'baloney' lol), who claimed to fight off the 'meanies' by calling them
names and resorting to 'neener, neener'.

Attitude problem? Hardly... I doubt any of the people on your list has any
problems with their attitudes.
Irritated and pissed off sometimes? You betcha... why? See above...

Hardly... but there are some absolute truths that nobody can refute.... one
of them is that when your damn bird is sick, you HAVE to provide it with
appropriate vet care.  Period.

You dimwit of a knownothing. If someone is having problems with a bird's
behaviour, what more helpful than to post titles of books which not only
*I* have found to be helpful and informative, but which others also
might find helpful and informative and might just help the OP to solve
the problem they are having.
So far you have done nothing but prattle on about how mean everyone is,
how unhelpful their advice and how you are going to wipe the floor with
us all. Sheer bravado and posturing  I'm afraid. Not one bit of useful
advice has been posted by you here. I have to assume you are simply the
latest in a long long line of simpleton troll who merely want to try to
cause trouble becuase wuite frankly you know as little about bird
keeping as I do of rocket science. You think that if you shout loud
enough nobody will notice your lack of knowledge. Well chum, *I* have
noticed.

ROFL Ahhh *now* I see. Not only do you know bugger all about
cockatiels, you don't even *own* one yet. But you see fit to waste
bandwidth posting utter nonsense and not even on topic.

You are pathetic.  Why should people read books and become experts before
posting here.  You're obviously a sad old loner who despises people at the
best of times, so you hit back in your own petty little way by being
arrogant and spiteful on here.  Well good luck to you - I'm really glad you
love your birds so much, they're most probably the only creatures who can
stand your company.

You are also a poor parent, shame on you. We can distinguish colds and
sniffles anything else requires a doctor. You must self diagnose, which
leads to tragedy. Good luck in your life, you need it.

Buy the book, Cockatiels for dummies

Exactly is right and  the decision is up to the "parent" of each pet. I do
not run to the doctor when myself or my kids get a cold or fever. I weather
it through and keep the costs of our health care down.

If I needed help making a decision I may come to a NG and ask questions to
educate myself.

but

When you get some stupid old bitch calling everybody names that is asking a
question then there is no point in having a NG for tiels. This perpetuated
by her henchmen telling everybody, that objects to the abuse, that she is
wonderful and so helpful. Well this puts these henchment in the moron class
and makes them most of the problem here.

You want the NG destroyed? Let's go for  it!

HERE HERE!!!!!!!!!

Three cheers for common sense!

This is exactly what happened in my case! My tiel needed the
attention, but they couldn't see him at that time, so he didn't get
the emergency attention that he needed right away. I found another
vet, but it was too late.... Jasper died in the vets office.

I must admit you are right about crazies running the pet to the vet
over something very little which gives the ones that need the
attention hardly no attention at all!

In my case about running my children to the doctor whenever they would
have a cold or something, well, my daughter had all sorts of health
problems when she was younger. She would have a fever then she would
go into a seizure.... this is why I would run her to the ER all of the
time.... Two years ago she had a cold then one night she couldn't
breath. I ran her to the ER, she had pneumonia. So this is why I run
my child to the doctors over something little. I am definately not a
crazy person that crys wolf all of the time :-)