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Pet Forum / Birds / Parrots / March 2004New Color mutation in Tiels?
No, I haven't discovered any new mutations :) Just wondering, if you could 'design' your own color mutatin, what would that be? (just be warned, blues and greens don't count). I personally would love to see a completly black cockatiel, with with flight feathers and the orange cheek spots. (and for the purists, yes, the wild type IS a beautiful bird *g*)  Signature~Marco~ "Build a man a fire, and he'll be warm for a day. Set a man on fire, and he'll be warm for the rest of his life." -- Terry Pratchett, Jingo > No, I haven't discovered any new mutations :) > Just wondering, if you could 'design' your own color mutatin, what would > that be? (just be warned, blues and greens don't count). > > I personally would love to see a completly black cockatiel, with with > flight feathers and the orange cheek spots. 'with WHITE flight feathers' :) Signature~Marco~ "Build a man a fire, and he'll be warm for a day. Set a man on fire, and he'll be warm for the rest of his life." -- Terry Pratchett, Jingo That'd look so cool.... Like a little black cockatoo.... > > No, I haven't discovered any new mutations :) > > Just wondering, if you could 'design' your own color mutatin, what would [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > > :) Those black cockatoos are big! We get them in the backyard sometimes, Cheers, Ian T. > That'd look so cool.... > [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > > Set a man on fire, and he'll be warm for the rest of his life." -- Terry > > Pratchett, Jingo > Those black cockatoos are big! We get them in the backyard sometimes, > > Cheers, > > Ian T. I'm sooooo jealous! Laurie > > Those black cockatoos are big! We get them in the backyard sometimes, > > [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > Laurie I'm jealous too! Makes me want to go to Australia! :-p > Those black cockatoos are big! We get them in the backyard sometimes, > > Cheers, Ok, Ian, it's official. I don't like you. LOL Signature~Marco~ "Build a man a fire, and he'll be warm for a day. Set a man on fire, and he'll be warm for the rest of his life." -- Terry Pratchett, Jingo In a previous article, Marco <YeahRight@YoMoma.Net> said: >No, I haven't discovered any new mutations :) >Just wondering, if you could 'design' your own color mutatin, what would [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > >(and for the purists, yes, the wild type IS a beautiful bird *g*) A bright green, like a male eclectus, with white flights and cheek spots. Vicki SignatureJust to think I used to worry about things like that. Used to worry 'bout rich and skinny 'til I wound up poor and fat. -Delbert McClinton I just read in my National Cockatiels Society Journal that they have managed to breed a Silver Suffused Yellow mutation that makes the bird appear olive green due to the mix of grey and yellow. I am searching for a picture of this one! > No, I haven't discovered any new mutations :) > Just wondering, if you could 'design' your own color mutatin, what would [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > (and for the purists, yes, the wild type IS a beautiful bird *g*) > I just read in my National Cockatiels Society Journal that they have > managed > to breed a Silver Suffused Yellow mutation that makes the bird appear > olive > green due to the mix of grey and yellow. I am searching for a picture of > this one! Search for 'olive' or 'emerald' ... not as striking as you'd imagine... kinda dirty looking actually. :) Signature~Marco~ "Build a man a fire, and he'll be warm for a day. Set a man on fire, and he'll be warm for the rest of his life." -- Terry Pratchett, Jingo > I just read in my National Cockatiels Society Journal that they have > managed > to breed a Silver Suffused Yellow mutation that makes the bird appear > olive > green due to the mix of grey and yellow. I am searching for a picture of > this one! Here you go... http://www.parrotpages.com/cgi-bin/tielMutation.pl Signature~Marco~ "Build a man a fire, and he'll be warm for a day. Set a man on fire, and he'll be warm for the rest of his life." -- Terry Pratchett, Jingo Troll. > > I just read in my National Cockatiels Society Journal that they have > > managed [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > Here you go... > http://www.parrotpages.com/cgi-bin/tielMutation.pl > Troll. Oh, go sit on a ceiling fan and spin! Signature~Marco~ "Build a man a fire, and he'll be warm for a day. Set a man on fire, and he'll be warm for the rest of his life." -- Terry Pratchett, Jingo Geez, I never thought that telling the group about a new mutation is acting like a troll? What the hell did I do?! Anyway, I don't like the colour. I found it on several sites and it is listed as "olive" or "emerald". It looks as if the bird is dirty or at least has bad feathering like an Amazon with liver problems. Interesting though. I wish I had the patience to type out the article but, I don;t. Suffering from a flu. > > Troll. > > Oh, go sit on a ceiling fan and spin! > Geez, I never thought that telling the group about a new mutation is > acting > like a troll? What the hell did I do?! Never mind Pizza Girl, Nadeana... she's a seriously disturbed nutcase. > Anyway, I don't like the colour. I found it on several sites and it is > listed as "olive" or "emerald". It looks as if the bird is dirty or at > least has bad feathering like an Amazon with liver problems. Interesting > though. I wish I had the patience to type out the article but, I don;t. > Suffering from a flu. Well, you get well soon... And, yeah... that 'emerald' is not that pretty a mutation... Probably the prettiest mutation I've seen was a Heavy pied pearl cinnamon male (one of our babies)... it was all whiteish yellow with just two dark bands of cinnamon on the wings shoulders... and pearling on those bands... and the bright orange cheek patches. It was stunning.... I miss breeding cockatiels. :) Signature~Marco~ "Build a man a fire, and he'll be warm for a day. Set a man on fire, and he'll be warm for the rest of his life." -- Terry Pratchett, Jingo Not you, for sure, NaDeana. I have never experienced that immaturity from you. It was some troll posting links to blank webpages after changing nicks to make sure everybody wasted their time...LOL > Geez, I never thought that telling the group about a new mutation is acting > like a troll? What the hell did I do?! [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > though. I wish I had the patience to type out the article but, I don;t. > Suffering from a flu. > Not you, for sure, NaDeana. I have never experienced that immaturity from > you. It was some troll posting links to blank webpages after changing > nicks > to make sure everybody wasted their time...LOL You are really clueless and childish... the link was to the 'green' cockatiel pictures... but as Vicki pointed out the link doesn't work because it seems to be an invalid extension. Just trim it a little bit and it'll work. Signature~Marco~ "Build a man a fire, and he'll be warm for a day. Set a man on fire, and he'll be warm for the rest of his life." -- Terry Pratchett, Jingo Excuse me, who's the troll? > Troll. > [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > > Here you go... > > http://www.parrotpages.com/cgi-bin/tielMutation.pl In a previous article, ".M.a.r.c.o." <YaRight@YerMoma.Net> said: >Here you go... >http://www.parrotpages.com/cgi-bin/tielMutation.pl This link doesn't work although it's what's in the address bar when you get to this page; the .pl extension means a perl script, I think. Go to http://www.parrotpages.com/ and work forward. It's not hard to find the picture pages, and if you load from the index page, it works. Vicki SignatureJust to think I used to worry about things like that. Used to worry 'bout rich and skinny 'til I wound up poor and fat. -Delbert McClinton > In a previous article, ".M.a.r.c.o." <YaRight@YerMoma.Net> said: > [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > > Vicki Thanks Vicki :) Signature~Marco~ "Build a man a fire, and he'll be warm for a day. Set a man on fire, and he'll be warm for the rest of his life." -- Terry Pratchett, Jingo I would use use gene splicing to insert genes for blue and green and whatever else I can put in and I would make a cockatiel that is bright purple. It shouldn't be very hard to do. Genes do not mix like paint. > I would use use gene splicing to insert genes for blue and green and > whatever else I can put in and I would make a cockatiel that is bright [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > Unlimited Download - 19 Seperate Servers - 90,000 groups - Uncensored > -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= How do you mix gene's then? > Genes do not mix like paint. > [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > > Unlimited Download - 19 Seperate Servers - 90,000 groups - Uncensored > > -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= I do not thin they "mix genes" per se but rather replace certain ones with others by destroying dominat types and the recessive ones take over. Don't quote me on that one but I know you don't mix black hair with blonde and get grey. > How do you mix gene's then? > > Genes do not mix like paint. [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > > > Unlimited Download - 19 Seperate Servers - 90,000 groups - Uncensored > > > -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Here's some info on cockatiel genetics http://www.multiscope.com/hotspot/genetics.htm http://www.cockatiel.org/genetics/ Signature~Marco~ "Build a man a fire, and he'll be warm for a day. Set a man on fire, and he'll be warm for the rest of his life." -- Terry Pratchett, Jingo Not all new colours are mutations, only a mix of existing mutations. Pearl pied isnt a single mutation but 2 on the same bird. Gene's arent destroyed or even altered when breeding 2 or more colours together, they either show on a bird or are hidden as in a carrier. I've bred coloured canaries for over 20 years and Cockatiels for 15, all mutations in all birds follow the same rules of inheritance as in normal, recessive, sex linked and dominant. You really should read up on genetics PG if you are going to post about them on here. Ray. You should really read up on the posts you are commenting about if you are going to be rude about them . I doubt you have performed any of this genetic manipulation as the post I was commenting on says. "gene splicing to insert genes" Breeding is by no means "gene splicing to insert genes" hello? hello? Try to find a real topic to bitch about. Your flock behaviour is destroying your intelligence. Have a great one! > Not all new colours are mutations, only a mix of existing mutations. Pearl pied isnt a single > mutation but 2 on the same bird. [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > You really should read up on genetics PG if you are going to post about them on here. > Ray. >Your flock behaviour is destroying your intelligence. What destroyed yours? >> Your flock behaviour is destroying your intelligence. > > What destroyed yours? Assuming she had any to begin with.... Signature~Marco~ "Build a man a fire, and he'll be warm for a day. Set a man on fire, and he'll be warm for the rest of his life." -- Terry Pratchett, Jingo What the hell are you going on about? Breeding birds is about passing on genes not splicing to insert. You have a couple of genes missing from the neck up. . . > You should really read up on the posts you are commenting about if you are > going to be rude about them . I doubt you have performed any of this genetic [quoted text clipped - 27 lines] > them on here. > > Ray. *LMAO*!! Yes, you are absolutely correct about her!! > What the hell are you going on about? > Breeding birds is about passing on genes not splicing to insert. [quoted text clipped - 32 lines] > > them on here. > > > Ray. Read up about "gene splicing" then comment again. This has nothing to do with breeding. The insulting behavior only make you look like Marco. You don't want to behave like that do you? I didn't think so...very scary (even though he has the hots for my slender, youthful body and my heaving full breasts) Thanks > What the hell are you going on about? > Breeding birds is about passing on genes not splicing to insert. [quoted text clipped - 32 lines] > > them on here. > > > Ray. > The insulting behavior only make you look like Marco. Lucky you Ray! i've seen Marco, and that's a compliment. >You don't want to > behave like that do you? I didn't think so...very scary (even though he has > the hots for my slender, youthful body and my heaving full breasts) ROTL...hate to tell you this, but I don't think Marco's a boob man L > Thanks > [quoted text clipped - 41 lines] > > > them on here. > > > > Ray. Yeah, I used to be Chuck until the operation. > > The insulting behavior only make you look like Marco. > [quoted text clipped - 55 lines] > > > > them on here. > > > > > Ray. > Read up about "gene splicing" then comment again. This has nothing to do > with breeding. > > The insulting behavior only make you look like Marco. You don't want to > behave like that do you? I didn't think so...very scary (even though he has > the hots for my slender, youthful body and my heaving full breasts) *ROTFLMAO*! Now we ALL know you are dreaming again! *LOL* Like usual, PG and her childish remarks! Can you "see" me now? *LMAO* > Thanks > [quoted text clipped - 41 lines] > > > them on here. > > > > Ray. > Read up about "gene splicing" then comment again. This has nothing to do > with breeding. [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > has > the hots for my slender, youthful body and my heaving full breasts) eeeeeeeeeeeeeekkkkk! Yeah, you are almost my type... minus a few things and if you add a few more things and grow a (bigger) mustache and a brain. Signature=-Marco-= Parrots are Loud Parrots are Messy Parrots are Expensive Parrots are Needy Parrots are Wild Animals ************* Parrots are NOT toys Parrots are NOT decorations Parrots are NOT easy to keep Parrots can be a pain in the a.s! Wrong again, I happen to think Marco is a great guy who I have had the pleasure of knowing a lot longer than you. . . > Read up about "gene splicing" then comment again. This has nothing to do Didnt I say that you fool.. > with breeding. > [quoted text clipped - 47 lines] > > > them on here. > > > > Ray. I am glad you didn't mention "breeding" when you said "breeding birds". I didn't think you mentioned "breeding" either. I thought you said "breeding" > Wrong again, I happen to think Marco is a great guy who I have had the pleasure of knowing a lot > longer than you. [quoted text clipped - 55 lines] > > > > them on here. > > > > > Ray. > Wrong again, I happen to think Marco is a great guy who I have had the > pleasure of knowing a lot > longer than you. Likewise, Mr. R. And don't pay any attention to the moron-du jour. You know how it goes... she's almost qualified to rip next to Tony. LOL Signature=-Marco-= Parrots are Loud Parrots are Messy Parrots are Expensive Parrots are Needy Parrots are Wild Animals ************* Parrots are NOT toys Parrots are NOT decorations Parrots are NOT easy to keep Parrots can be a pain in the a.s! Yeah, because messing with an animals genome is just a wonderful and safe thing to do. Spoken like a person who really hasn't the faintest idea of how dangerous and unnecessary this idea is. You really need to read Margaret Atwood's new novel "Oryx and Crake". You make think twice. > I would use use gene splicing to insert genes for blue and green and > whatever else I can put in and I would make a cockatiel that is bright [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > Unlimited Download - 19 Seperate Servers - 90,000 groups - Uncensored > -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Genetic manipulation by breed selection is one thing, but messing with Mother Nature is just bad in the end. > Yeah, because messing with an animals genome is just a wonderful and safe > thing to do. Spoken like a person who really hasn't the faintest idea of how [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > > Unlimited Download - 19 Seperate Servers - 90,000 groups - Uncensored > > -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Seriously, read that book I mentioned. It is futuristic and just down right scary! Genetic manipulation all around. > Genetic manipulation by breed selection is one thing, but messing with > Mother Nature is just bad in the end. [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > > > Unlimited Download - 19 Seperate Servers - 90,000 groups - Uncensored > > > -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= >Yeah, because messing with an animals genome is just a wonderful and safe >thing to do. Spoken like a person who really hasn't the faintest idea of how >dangerous and unnecessary this idea is. You really need to read Margaret >Atwood's new novel "Oryx and Crake". You make think twice. That's just emotional talk. I am all for gene experimentation. We're all just arrangements of molecules. I think someday they will use genetics to develop perfect pets with little or no physical or mental problems, perfectly adapted for living with humans. Imagine a big bird with bright colors, the speaking ability of an african grey, the sociability of a cockatoo without the emotional problems, and the intelligence of a 9 year old human. How about an OldMolly with the intelligence of a 9 year old Parrot?...LOL I don't think people should screw with mother nature. It always backfires on us. I am not a religious person by any means but it will just get you some how. Selective breeding is just "edging" MN a bit, but when you screw with the basic genetics....hmmmmm. We always think we know better. Ask Aussies if the think we should f.ck with rabbits and dingoes or Californian's if killer bees are fun. > >Yeah, because messing with an animals genome is just a wonderful and safe > >thing to do. Spoken like a person who really hasn't the faintest idea of how [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > Unlimited Download - 19 Seperate Servers - 90,000 groups - Uncensored > -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= > How about an OldMolly with the intelligence of a 9 year old Parrot?...LOL > > I don't think people should screw with mother nature. It always > backfires on > us. Yeah... you're the poster girl for genetic mishaps. I am not a religious person by any means but it will just get you > some > how. Yeah.. it shows. > We always think we know better. Ask Aussies if the think we should f.ck > with > rabbits and dingoes or Californian's if killer bees are fun. Apples and oranges. Signature=-Marco-= Parrots are Loud Parrots are Messy Parrots are Expensive Parrots are Needy Parrots are Wild Animals ************* Parrots are NOT toys Parrots are NOT decorations Parrots are NOT easy to keep Parrots can be a pain in the a.s! |
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