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Pet Forum / Birds / Parrots / April 2004Wild birds
I see there are Australians posting here. My question is, are cockatiels common in the wild? Do you see them in trees or stumps or elsewhere? If so, what sorts of sounds do they make in the wild? -c > I see there are Australians posting here. My question is, are cockatiels > common in the wild? Do you see them in trees or stumps or elsewhere? If so, > what sorts of sounds do they make in the wild? > > -c I wondered the same..... I would love to see them in their natural habitat :-) "LadyTech" <fakeaddy@fakemail.com> wrote in message > I wondered the same..... I would love to see them in their natural > habitat :-) I wonder if they're considered a pest. Speaking of, Oregon went from two pairs of bald eagles to something like 410. Now, somebody has been poisoning them and one was just recovered by Audobon but it died because it had been shot. There's a reward, and people driving hundreds of miles a day looking for the poison (all of them have had sheep meat in their system meaning the sheeps were left out as carrion bait.) Pest control, in this case, would be destruction of the a-hole who has been killing these birds. Fortunately, they continue to thrive. -c > "LadyTech" <fakeaddy@fakemail.com> wrote in message > > > I wondered the same..... I would love to see them in their natural > > habitat :-) > > I wonder if they're considered a pest. I certainly hope not! I don't really think they are though :-) > Speaking of, Oregon went from two pairs of bald eagles to something like > 410. Now, somebody has been poisoning them and one was just recovered by > Audobon but it died because it had been shot. There's a reward, and people > driving hundreds of miles a day looking for the poison (all of them have had > sheep meat in their system meaning the sheeps were left out as carrion > bait.) Don't they even think of what they are doing to these birds? Thats so sad :-( > Pest control, in this case, would be destruction of the a-hole who has been > killing these birds. > Fortunately, they continue to thrive. > > -c There may be another side to the story. Perhaps the eagles are causing damage to other property or animals and the humans are frustrated because of nothing being done. I do not know the whole story but there may be more to it and there usually is. A shame anyway when man interferes. some animals are made to be extinct in their own time. 10,000 new species of animals are born each year. > > "LadyTech" <fakeaddy@fakemail.com> wrote in message > > [quoted text clipped - 26 lines] > > > > -c "Pizza Girl" <abuser@hotmail.com> wrote in message > There may be another side to the story. > > Perhaps the eagles are causing damage to other property or animals and the > humans are frustrated because of nothing being done. You ever heard of a bald eagle hauling off a sheep? Seriously? "(AP) Another cow disappeared today. Ranchers think it was plucked from the meadow and consumed by a pair of bald eagles..." > I do not know the whole story but there may be more to it and there usually is. A shame >anyway when man interferes. some animals are made to be extinct in their own time. Not our national mascot. It was nearly made extinct by DDT. Not its own time. -c I didn't expect them to carry away sheep, seriously though, but perhaps chickens or other small livestock. My point remains, there is always two sides to the story. There may be a reason for this but the news media wants the grandstanding by exagerating or ignoring it. Things are not always what they seem. Our birds were becoming non-existent in this area by pesticides also but now we have scabies and other human diseases becoming more prevalent by banning some useful pesticides. We also have every vent in our houses populated with starlings and gracos, lice pouring into our houses and dryers catching on firte because of nests built inside them. Every action has a reaction. Man usually makes a a mess of it. > "Pizza Girl" <abuser@hotmail.com> wrote in message > [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > > -c > I didn't expect them to carry away sheep, seriously though, but perhaps > chickens or other small livestock. > > My point remains, there is always two sides to the story. There may be a > reason for this but the news media wants the grandstanding by exagerating or > ignoring it. Folks would love to hear the other side of the story, I suppose, but guess who's not stepping forward to tell it? NO ranchers, not even ones who have nothing to fear, are stepping forward. > Things are not always what they seem. Eagles are being shot and poisoned. That is what things are. -=c So you got your way? Disagreed with every point brought forward. No facts, no proof, only what you read in the newspaper or hear in rumours. Suit yourself. We don't know the facts. Well, I don't. try not to jump too fast. It can be hazardous to your health. Ask OM. Best of luck. > > I didn't expect them to carry away sheep, seriously though, but perhaps > > chickens or other small livestock. [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > > -=c "Pizza Girl" <abuser@hotmail.com> wrote in message > So you got your way? Disagreed with every point brought forward. No facts, > no proof, only what you read in the newspaper or hear in rumours. No rumors, just reports and a reward from the Audobon Society. I value their opinion far more, for example, than yours. ("no facts, no proof") > Suit yourself. We don't know the facts. Well, I don't. try not to jump too > fast. It can be hazardous to your health. Ask OM. There's a $1,000 bounty on the person caught killing an endangered species in Oregon. That is fact. I don't need to hear some a.shole farmer's opinion about whether his chickens are disappearing. Nor do I care whether some usenet a.shole who knows nothing about the situation at all thinks as to whether "we know the facts." $1,000 is a $1,000 . > > > Things are not always what they seem. > > > > Eagles are being shot and poisoned. That is what things are. -c We know you don't care. It is very obvious from your intelligence display. > "Pizza Girl" <abuser@hotmail.com> wrote in message > [quoted text clipped - 18 lines] > > -c Out of curiousity, who is "we"? "Pizza Girl" <abuser@hotmail.com> wrote in message ... > We know you don't care. It is very obvious from your intelligence display. > [quoted text clipped - 23 lines] > > > > -c > Out of curiousity, who is "we"? gatt, one thing to learn here in this group is that Pizza Girl is not a well individual. The "we" she always refers to must be the voices in her head (either caused by tinnitus or psychosis) and should not be trusted.  Signature~=-Marco-=~ http://photos.yahoo.com/igotmbd "Marco" <myemail@myisp.com> wrote in message > > Out of curiousity, who is "we"? > > > gatt, one thing to learn here in this group is that Pizza Girl is not a > well individual. The "we" she always refers to must be the voices in her > head (either caused by tinnitus or psychosis) and should not be trusted. I had a hunch. Thanks. -c gatt, Pay no attention to PG.... she is always saying things to start trouble :-) > Out of curiousity, who is "we"? > [quoted text clipped - 29 lines] > > > > > > -c More bull from PG. Something must have interfered with you PG, humans are frustrated at your useless posts. > There may be another side to the story. > [quoted text clipped - 34 lines] > > > > > > -c > 10,000 new species of animals are born each year. Proof? Signature~=-Marco-=~ http://photos.yahoo.com/igotmbd G'day Gatt :) >I see there are Australians posting here. My question is, are cockatiels >common in the wild? Do you see them in trees or stumps or elsewhere? If so, >what sorts of sounds do they make in the wild? Cockatiels are very common in the wild, they live mostly inland and not around the coast and most people call them quarrions here. I live on the coast so there are no wild cockatiels around my place but a 2 hour drive or so inland and there is plenty of them. I am lucky enough to have galahs, sulpher crested cockatoos, yellow tailed black cockatoos, eastern and crimson rosellas, rainbow and scaly breasted lorikeets, red rumped grass parrots and king parrots in my backyard. You mostly see them on the ground feeding on grass seeds or around water at dusk. They're hard to spot in trees as they blend in really well. They like to sit along a branch and look like part of the branch, pet cockatiels often do the same thing. There calls are the same as domesticated cockatiels. JC "John" <mutt_man@hotmail.com> wrote in message > G'day Gatt :) Howdy! < I am lucky enough > to have galahs, sulpher crested cockatoos, yellow tailed black > cockatoos, eastern and crimson rosellas, rainbow and scaly breasted > lorikeets, red rumped grass parrots and king parrots in my backyard. That's really cool. I can imagine the noise! >They like to sit along a branch and look like part of the > branch, pet cockatiels often do the same thing. There calls are the > same as domesticated cockatiels. Thanks for the information. I've always wondered those things. All we have out around my house are blue stellar jays, starlings and crows. Hawks and eagles, kestrels and owls about five miles to the east. We had a great horned owl that used to sit on the chimney and cast long shadows, or sit on the telephone pole. He was bigger around than the pole. Oregon is a moderate climate though so there's nothing really tropical here. Thanks again! -c G'day :) >> to have galahs, sulpher crested cockatoos, yellow tailed black >> cockatoos, eastern and crimson rosellas, rainbow and scaly breasted >> lorikeets, red rumped grass parrots and king parrots in my backyard. > >That's really cool. I can imagine the noise! When the kookaburras, noisy miners, channel billed cuckoos, australian magpies etc join in it does get kinda load. At 5am when everybody is proclaiming there territory I sometimes question why I am a bird lover. :) >Thanks for the information. I've always wondered those things. All we have >out around my house are blue stellar jays, starlings and crows. Hawks and >eagles, kestrels and owls about five miles to the east. We had a great >horned owl that used to sit on the chimney and cast long shadows, or sit on >the telephone pole. He was bigger around than the pole. Oregon is a >moderate climate though so there's nothing really tropical here. My wife is American and came from the SF Bay area and I've spent a lot of time there. I always wanted to go for a trip to Oregon as my wife says I would love it there but so far I haven't had the chance. I think a lot of the bird species are the same as the Bay area? The first time I went there my wife said I would be disappointed in the birds but I found them very interesting. Humming birds are amazing, the colours are incredible and they're so funny. I'd never have guessed that something so small would have such a bad attitude, they must OD on angry pills. I guess it's what you're used too, eastern rosellas are so common here I hardly notice them but my wife thinks they are incredibly beautiful. She doesn't notice turkey vultures but I could watch them all day because they are so graceful. And speaking of noisy birds, the most annoying bird I've ever heard is a mocking bird. One of them drove me crazy for weeks over there, damn thing didn't even shut up when it was flying. >Thanks again! No problem, nice to talk to someone in here that isn't just interested in flame wars. You asked in a later message in this thread if cockatiels are considered a pest. Not that I'm aware of... I guess being smaller they don't do too much damage to crops like cockatoos sometimes do and not being fruit eaters they don't damage orchards like lorikeets sometimes do. JC "John" <mutt_man@hotmail.com> wrote in message < At 5am when everybody is proclaiming there territory I sometimes question why I am a bird > lover. :) Hehe. When I was working nights I had days like that. The crows would pick up the walnuts from our tree, take them up on the roof and peck them open. Often on the metal vent covers. I think I know why a flock of crows is called a "murder." < I always wanted to go for a trip to Oregon as my wife > says I would love it there but so far I haven't had the chance. I > think a lot of the bird species are the same as the Bay area? Similar. They've got some warmer-weather species and probably a lot more seagulls. From the north bay all the way to the Canadian border, however, you'd pretty much see the same species. The most rare and notable being the spotted owl. This year they're asking people not to fly kites or bring dogs onto certain areas of the beach because of an endangered ocean bird that nests there. > Humming birds are amazing, the colours are incredible and they're so funny. Do they not have hummingbirds in Australia? Your wife was fairly accurate: Our wildlife is pretty mundane compared to Australia's. < She doesn't notice turkey vultures but I could watch them all day because they are so <graceful. We have those. Often mistaken for eagles until you see one on the side of the road eating carrion. Yeesh. > You asked in a later message in this thread if cockatiels are > considered a pest. Not that I'm aware of... I guess being smaller they > don't do too much damage to crops like cockatoos sometimes do and not > being fruit eaters they don't damage orchards like lorikeets sometimes > do. Interesting. I hear a main staple of their diet is eucalyptus which would put them in the same habitat as koalas, is that correct? I saw some eucalyptus branches at a market in Seattle and thought about getting him one to gnaw on, but the lady couldn't tell me if they'd been sprayed with anything so I didn't want to take a chance. -c . > Do they not have hummingbirds in Australia? Your wife was fairly > accurate: > Our wildlife is pretty mundane compared to Australia's. I don't know where you are (and I'm not comparing S. Florida to Australia) BUT I'm having tons of fun watching feral quakers, different species of conures, amazons and even macaws flying around here in the city. :) Signature~=-Marco-=~ http://photos.yahoo.com/igotmbd "Marco" <myemail@myisp.com> wrote in message > > Do they not have hummingbirds in Australia? Your wife was fairly > > accurate: [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > BUT I'm having tons of fun watching feral quakers, different species of > conures, amazons and even macaws flying around here in the city. :) Nothing like that could live long in the wild in Oregon. Too cold at night. Not long ago a TV news program showed footage from one of its rooftop weather cameras, however. Seems a local hawk took an interest in the lens and stuck his face up to it so closely that his breath nearly fogged the lens. -c G'day :) >Do they not have hummingbirds in Australia? Your wife was fairly accurate: No hummingbirds down here, we have many types of honey eaters and the smaller species of those fill a similar niche as hummers. >Our wildlife is pretty mundane compared to Australia's. Just depends on what you're used to I think. Watching a squirrel is interesting to me but a lot of people over there consider them pests. I remember one time we were driving along the coast heading towards Bodega Bay and it must have been mating season for the red winged blackbirds. They were flying up in the air displaying there wings and it was very spectacular. I also saw an american goldfinch on the same trip which is a very pretty bird. I've only seen one woodpecker over there and it was also a pretty bird. >Interesting. I hear a main staple of their diet is eucalyptus which would I don't think they feed on eucalypts too much. They prefer grass seeds although I have read that they love the seeds from acacia trees. I've only ever seen them feeding on the ground. When it's dry the sides of the roads often have a lot more growth because there is no cattle feeding on it and there is some moisture run off from the road so you often see wild cockatiels feeding there. I guess there is also grain that has fallen from trucks that they feed on. Unfortunately a lot of them get nailed by cars and trucks :( >put them in the same habitat as koalas, is that correct? I saw some Cockatiels prefer open woodland, not really koala country. There are hundreds of species of eucalyptus and they grow over most of the country, from arid desert areas to rain forest and even alpine areas. Koalas only feed on about 6 or so species of them. I'm lucky enough to have koalas where I live and in the breeding season they make more noise than the birds. It's hard to describe the noise a horny male koala makes, kind of like a pig grunting but multiply the volume by about 20. The 1st time I heard one I had no idea what the hell it was, I thought I had some kinda monster in the backyard. It's hard to believe something so cute could make such a terrible noise. >eucalyptus branches at a market in Seattle and thought about getting him one >to gnaw on, but the lady couldn't tell me if they'd been sprayed with >anything so I didn't want to take a chance. I give my cockatiels eucalyptus branches to play with. They love to chew the leaves off and strip the bark off. Bottlebrush and grevillas are others I give them. I have seen in some cockatiel books a list of trees that are safe to give your bird, there should be something that grows in your local area. JC > G'day :) > [quoted text clipped - 49 lines] > > JC This winter I started clipping small branches from my flowering crabapple trees for the tiels. The fruit stays on the tree throughout the winter and attracts a variety of birds, especially cedar waxwings. A foot long sprig of crabapple usually lasts two or three days in the cage before they have it reduced to a bare stick. Jeff > G'day Gatt :) > [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] > > JC Thank you for that info.... I was always curious about them in the wild :-) |
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