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gatt - 25 May 2004 21:30 GMT
>No - mirriors are a bad idea for a single Tiel. They become attached to
them
>and you'll never get them out of the cage - trust me - this is from my own
>experience. My Rougue became impossible when he had his mirror.

We've had this experience. He gets hissy and feisty when you try to get him
away from his perch sometimes.  Nothing solves that like a cracker. :>
Seriously, though, when he does this we punish him by saying "NO" and
removing the mirror.

We take it out just about daily anyway so he doesn't get too attached.   Or,
we haul him out and put him on top of the cage and he forgets the mirror is
there altogether.   For more fun, we lay the mirror flat on top of the cage
and when he finally discovers he's his own comedy show.
Another thing we tried was putting him on the top of the cage and then
closing it.  That kept him (and us) occupied for a couple of hours, until we
opened it so he could get at his food and water.

My impression of mirrors so far is to use them to calm the bird down, but
remove them as much as possible and never let it be a substitute for your
hand or shoulder.
-c
Mark Wilson - 26 May 2004 01:10 GMT
> >No - mirriors are a bad idea for a single Tiel. They become attached to
> them
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> remove them as much as possible and never let it be a substitute for your
> hand or shoulder.

Sounds like a good plan :-)

I still have a mirror for Rougue in his play area outside of the cage, but I
found he was getting far to attached to the one that was inside the cage -
particularly around spring ;-) and so I had to remove it.
LadyTech - 26 May 2004 01:23 GMT
| > >No - mirriors are a bad idea for a single Tiel. They become attached to
| > them
[quoted text clipped - 29 lines]
| found he was getting far to attached to the one that was inside the cage -
| particularly around spring ;-) and so I had to remove it.

It is strange how I have never had a problem with the mirror and my
birds. I have a mirror in Piper's cage and he doesn't look in it at
all, so it stays there. He would rather climb the chain that the
mirror is attached to :-)
owly - 26 May 2004 01:48 GMT
One of my cockatiels (who is now gone) ignored mirrors, the other keeps
company with the bird in the mirror when he's in his cage, but doesn't seem
to miss it when we take him out.  Maybe it depends on how much time and
interaction the bird has with the human companion vs. the reflective one?
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> It is strange how I have never had a problem with the mirror and my
> birds. I have a mirror in Piper's cage and he doesn't look in it at
> all, so it stays there. He would rather climb the chain that the
> mirror is attached to :-)
Pizza Gurl - 26 May 2004 03:02 GMT
I think once they catch on to mirrors the excitement wears off and they
almost ignore them.

> One of my cockatiels (who is now gone) ignored mirrors, the other keeps
> company with the bird in the mirror when he's in his cage, but doesn't seem
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
> > all, so it stays there. He would rather climb the chain that the
> > mirror is attached to :-)
James - 26 May 2004 11:05 GMT
> It is strange how I have never had a problem with the mirror and my
> birds. I have a mirror in Piper's cage and he doesn't look in it at
> all, so it stays there. He would rather climb the chain that the
> mirror is attached to :-)

You must be lying because according to Wilson, all 'tiels will become little
terrors if they are given a mirror because his did.  One persons experience
with one bird pretty much sums up the entire species.

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Pizza Gurl - 27 May 2004 02:33 GMT
If you don't agree, why don't you state that instead of crying like a big
baby?

> > It is strange how I have never had a problem with the mirror and my
> > birds. I have a mirror in Piper's cage and he doesn't look in it at
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
> terrors if they are given a mirror because his did.  One persons experience
> with one bird pretty much sums up the entire species.
Ray - 27 May 2004 10:22 GMT
tiels_r_cool - 26 May 2004 18:02 GMT
> | > >No - mirriors are a bad idea for a single Tiel. They become
> attached to
[quoted text clipped - 48 lines]
> all, so it stays there. He would rather climb the chain that the
> mirror is attached to :-)

No problems here neither, but I also have 26 tiels that interact together
http://www.velocity.net/~journeyman348/birds.html
James - 26 May 2004 22:53 GMT
> > It is strange how I have never had a problem with the mirror and my
> > birds. I have a mirror in Piper's cage and he doesn't look in it at
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
> No problems here neither, but I also have 26 tiels that interact together
> http://www.velocity.net/~journeyman348/birds.html

More evidence that Wilson's advice was worthless.

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Mark Wilson - 27 May 2004 00:22 GMT
> More evidence that Wilson's advice was worthless.

So what? I wasn't professing to be an expert - all I was doing was sharing
my experiences as a Tiel owner.
That's what a forum is for - exchanging experiences and ideas.

What constructive input did you contribute? All you have done is try to run
me into the ground and act like a complete jerk.
James - 27 May 2004 06:49 GMT
> > More evidence that Wilson's advice was worthless.
>
> So what? I wasn't professing to be an expert - all I was doing was sharing
> my experiences as a Tiel owner.
> That's what a forum is for - exchanging experiences and ideas.

True, but you were handing out overly generalized advice based on extremely
limited experience that resulted in telling someone something that really
wasn't true.
That's not good advice.

> What constructive input did you contribute?

How was my response not constructive input?

I said: "You may not have experienced the same problem even if you had put a
mirror
in the birds cage and left it there.  Wilson's 'tiel is only one bird and
all birds behave differently under similar circumstances.

In general mirrors are not great ideas, but that doesn't automatically place
them in the "bad idea" file."

This does nothing to run you into the ground.

> All you have done is try to run
> me into the ground and act like a complete jerk.

You seem to have now accepted the fault of your advice.  Knowing that you
weren't right about your mirror advice, how is my correcting it trying to
run you down?

If you are this sensative, how did you ever make it through high school
without getting  bullied and beat up by the chess club? or am I presuming
too much?
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Mark Wilson - 27 May 2004 07:55 GMT
Plonk.

<snip>
James - 28 May 2004 08:45 GMT
> Plonk.
>
> <snip>

Now that's funny!

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Cainman - 30 May 2004 10:30 GMT
Plonk?

> Plonk.
>
> <snip>
Mark Wilson - 30 May 2004 23:55 GMT
To "plonk" someone means to put them on your ignore list (or "Bozo-bin").
Also called Killfiling or Killfiltering.

> Plonk?
 
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