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LadyTech - 22 Oct 2004 01:21 GMT
Passing on a warning:

I got some email that looked like it came from Citibank, asking me to
go online to confirm some account information.  A red flag went up,
but I was interested and looked at the link it asked me to use.
It was citi.com (not the correct citibank.com), and the site looked
EXACTLY like the citibank home page.

So I called customer support and was told that indeed this is a phish,
and that this type of activity has been linked to terrorist
organizations.  The theory is that they are trying to nibble away at
the financial structure of the country.  The rep said that this is one
of several that they have seen, that they are trying to stay on top of
it, but as soon as they nail one, another five pop up.

Anyhow, I thought I'd pass this on.
Stephen Oakes - 22 Oct 2004 01:29 GMT
"LadyTech" <nomailplease@dot.com> wrote...
> So I called customer support and was told that indeed this is a phish,
> and that this type of activity has been linked to terrorist
> organizations.

:-)

You had me until that last bit.

Nice one.

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Stephen Oakes
LadyTech - 22 Oct 2004 01:50 GMT
> "LadyTech" <nomailplease@dot.com> wrote...
> > So I called customer support and was told that indeed this is a phish,
[quoted text clipped - 9 lines]
> --
> Stephen Oakes

This is really true! I'm just letting out a warning to anyone else
that may have gotten a similar email.
Stephen Oakes - 22 Oct 2004 02:17 GMT
"LadyTech" <nomailplease@dot.com> wrote...
> This is really true! I'm just letting out a warning to anyone else
> that may have gotten a similar email.

My tests lead me to believe that citi.com is citibank.com.  Of course, that
doesn't mean your email wasn't a hoax.  Of course it was.  It was just the
inanity of the "terrorists" comment that triggered my response.

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Stephen Oakes
Stephen Oakes - 22 Oct 2004 02:18 GMT
"Stephen Oakes" <soakes1@XXXbigpond.net.au> wrote...
> inanity of the "terrorists" comment that triggered my response.

FWIW, the vast majority of these type of scams are perpetrated by USAians.

--
Stephen Oakes
Piezo Guru - 22 Oct 2004 02:48 GMT
Hey! That was my word I coined back a few years ago...LOL

> "Stephen Oakes" <soakes1@XXXbigpond.net.au> wrote...
> > inanity of the "terrorists" comment that triggered my response.
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> --
> Stephen Oakes
LadyTech - 22 Oct 2004 03:08 GMT
> "Stephen Oakes" <soakes1@XXXbigpond.net.au> wrote...
> > inanity of the "terrorists" comment that triggered my response.
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
> --
> Stephen Oakes

I guess some of them have nothing better to do...
Piezo Guru - 22 Oct 2004 02:27 GMT
It is the only way they can get those 'mericuns to do anything.

LOL

> "LadyTech" <nomailplease@dot.com> wrote...
> > This is really true! I'm just letting out a warning to anyone else
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
> --
> Stephen Oakes
LadyTech - 22 Oct 2004 03:06 GMT
> It is the only way they can get those 'mericuns to do anything.
>
> LOL

Yeah, you should know all about 'mericans... watch the news and
believe the media...
Piezo Guru - 23 Oct 2004 00:14 GMT
Hey, I've been there many times and choked on their pollution and attitudes.

> > It is the only way they can get those 'mericuns to do anything.
> >
> > LOL
>
> Yeah, you should know all about 'mericans... watch the news and
> believe the media...
LadyTech - 22 Oct 2004 02:41 GMT
> "LadyTech" <nomailplease@dot.com> wrote...
> > This is really true! I'm just letting out a warning to anyone else
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
> --
> Stephen Oakes

Go to both citi.com and then to citibank.com.... they are exactly
alike.... customer support are the ones that said "terrorists
organizations".
Stephen Oakes - 22 Oct 2004 04:03 GMT
"LadyTech" <nomailplease@dot.com> wrote...
> Go to both citi.com and then to citibank.com.... they are exactly
> alike...

Yes, they are almost identical.  Much of their content comes from the same
server.  The citibank.com site has some data stored at a citi.com URL.
Therefore I believe they are both "legitimate" websites.

However, (just to clarify) that doesn't mean the email is legitimate.  It
isn't.

> customer support are the ones that said "terrorists organizations".

Absolutely stark-raving bonkers.  I guess they read it in a "news" paper
somewhere.

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Stephen Oakes
ex WGS Hamm - 22 Oct 2004 12:11 GMT
> Go to both citi.com and then to citibank.com.... they are exactly
> alike.... customer support are the ones that said "terrorists
> organizations".

In the 60's America was obsessed by 'reds under the bed' and communist
plots, now it is obsessed with 'terrorist organizations'.
Let's face, it more Americans are killed by other Americans than they are
by terrorists.
Piezo Guru - 23 Oct 2004 00:15 GMT
LOL...this is very true.

Their doctors killed 752K people from medical errors last year. Largest
cause of death known to man.

> > Go to both citi.com and then to citibank.com.... they are exactly
> > alike.... customer support are the ones that said "terrorists
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
>  Let's face, it more Americans are killed by other Americans than they are
> by terrorists.
Mark Wilson - 24 Oct 2004 06:15 GMT
>  In the 60's America was obsessed by 'reds under the bed' and communist
> plots, now it is obsessed with 'terrorist organizations'.
>  Let's face, it more Americans are killed by other Americans than they are
> by terrorists.

So true Pam :-)
No offence to LT and any other Americans here, but as a nation, you people
are so highly strung and paranoid.....
LadyTech - 25 Oct 2004 01:12 GMT
> >  In the 60's America was obsessed by 'reds under the bed' and communist
> > plots, now it is obsessed with 'terrorist organizations'.
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
> No offence to LT and any other Americans here, but as a nation, you people
> are so highly strung and paranoid.....

Like I said before... the media makes such a big deal of these
so-called terrorists that it does make some people paranoid.... not me
because I can't live my life being worried about it all of the time.
Piezo Guru - 25 Oct 2004 04:09 GMT
I have been to your lovely country many times (you're a Yank right?) and as
an outsider I can tell you that you people are so subject to propagannda by
your news medias and government it is sickening.

Every day at least once in each section of your newspaper there is an
article about how the middle east is torturining their children or they beat
their wives or they rape their sheep or how you could all die if we don't
join in and kill the bad guy etc.. etc...

The best thing you could do as an American is turn off your radio, stop
reading the newspaper, and leave the country. You must know the news media
is all owned, run and controlled by bitter, full of hartred, Jews. They will
stop at nothing to wipe these middle eastern semitic a.shole off the face of
the earth and the American people are listening to them. They own your big
cities and control your minds. The World Trade center wasn't about America,
it was about supporting the Jews.

Now you watch how many of these motza ball eaters come forward and try to
defend their total control over the Internet, the next massive media medium.
They are genetically bound to accomplish this.

...and next we will have a whine about anti-semitism. Funny how the term
doesn't apply to semitic people, only the Jews. It's their own special
defnce word for all situations. And you guys thought you had a black
problem?...LOL best of luck.

> > >  In the 60's America was obsessed by 'reds under the bed' and
> communist
[quoted text clipped - 11 lines]
> so-called terrorists that it does make some people paranoid.... not me
> because I can't live my life being worried about it all of the time.
LadyTech - 28 Oct 2004 00:36 GMT
> I have been to your lovely country many times (you're a Yank right?) and as
> an outsider I can tell you that you people are so subject to propagannda by
> your news medias and government it is sickening.

Yes I'm a Yank and damn proud of it :-)

> Every day at least once in each section of your newspaper there is an
> article about how the middle east is torturining their children or they beat
> their wives or they rape their sheep or how you could all die if we don't
> join in and kill the bad guy etc.. etc...

I have NEVER seen anything in the newspapers about middle easterns
doing any sort of things like you mentioned...

> The best thing you could do as an American is turn off your radio, stop
> reading the newspaper, and leave the country. You must know the news media
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
> cities and control your minds. The World Trade center wasn't about America,
> it was about supporting the Jews.

I don't believe that Jews own almost everything over here... what do
you have against Jews anyway?
Well, as for middle easterns, I have nothing against them... one of my
doctors is middle eastern...

> Now you watch how many of these motza ball eaters come forward and try to
> defend their total control over the Internet, the next massive media medium.
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
> defnce word for all situations. And you guys thought you had a black
> problem?...LOL best of luck.

Nope we don't have a black problem :-)
Mark Wilson - 26 Oct 2004 00:53 GMT
> Like I said before... the media makes such a big deal of these
> so-called terrorists that it does make some people paranoid.... not me
> because I can't live my life being worried about it all of the time.

Yeah I agree. Your media is definately a pain in the arse. What's more
annoying is, our media is starting to follow suit.
There's no way to get an objective view, and we all just get fed propaganda.
What sh.ts me is, when the US first went into Iraq, all we had was CNN and
NBC or some other crap forced down our necks, and it's like "F**K OFF! I
don't want to watch US news!"  War mongering.
Anyway don't get me started on this, I could whinge and whine all day.
LadyTech - 26 Oct 2004 01:05 GMT
> > Like I said before... the media makes such a big deal of these
> > so-called terrorists that it does make some people paranoid.... not me
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
> don't want to watch US news!"  War mongering.
> Anyway don't get me started on this, I could whinge and whine all day.

LMAO!! Me too, Mark... I am soooo sick of the whole war thing! It
should have never been in the first place ;-)
J.Kulp - 26 Oct 2004 19:48 GMT
> So true Pam :-)
> No offence to LT and any other Americans here, but as a nation, you people
> are so highly strung and paranoid.....

No sh.t!  Look at our government... home spun terrorism.  You'd be paranoid
too.

I love the USA, it's the government that has me worried.
LadyTech - 27 Oct 2004 00:18 GMT
> > So true Pam :-)
> > No offence to LT and any other Americans here, but as a nation, you people
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
>
> I love the USA, it's the government that has me worried.

I totally agree with you 100%!!!
LadyTech - 25 Oct 2004 01:07 GMT
> > Go to both citi.com and then to citibank.com.... they are exactly
> > alike.... customer support are the ones that said "terrorists
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
>  Let's face, it more Americans are killed by other Americans than they are
> by terrorists.

Absolutely true!
Anonymous - 22 Oct 2004 19:22 GMT
I used to get alot of those too.  I figured out they wernt legit when
I have never had a Citibank account.  Theyre common from ebay and
paypal too.

If you look at the actual URL (shown on the bottom of the screen when
you place the mouse over the link) instead of the address listed on
the mail its easy to notice that theyre fake.

Citibank.com and Citi.com are both the same actual webpage on the same
computer though.

>Passing on a warning:
>
[quoted text clipped - 12 lines]
>
>Anyhow, I thought I'd pass this on.
LadyTech - 26 Oct 2004 00:06 GMT
> I used to get alot of those too.  I figured out they wernt legit when
> I have never had a Citibank account.  Theyre common from ebay and
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
> you place the mouse over the link) instead of the address listed on
> the mail its easy to notice that theyre fake.

I know this because I have gotten many of those fake emails... it's
too bad some computer users can't figure out the fakes.

> Citibank.com and Citi.com are both the same actual webpage on the same
> computer though.
Citizen_Cain - 22 Oct 2004 21:41 GMT
> Passing on a warning:
>
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
> and that this type of activity has been linked to terrorist
> organizations.

Yes, because terrorists are very interested in your purchasing of tampons
and shampoo from the local grocery store.

The theory is that they are trying to nibble away at
> the financial structure of the country.  The rep said that this is one
> of several that they have seen, that they are trying to stay on top of
> it, but as soon as they nail one, another five pop up.
>
> Anyhow, I thought I'd pass this on.

Thanks, but the rep you spoke to was an idiot.
Piezo Guru - 23 Oct 2004 00:15 GMT
Hey! terrorists are people too!

> > Passing on a warning:
> >
[quoted text clipped - 19 lines]
>
> Thanks, but the rep you spoke to was an idiot.
Lord Gow, rogue bull of the 333! - 23 Oct 2004 03:05 GMT
>> Passing on a warning:
>>
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> Yes, because terrorists are very interested in your purchasing of
> tampons and shampoo from the local grocery store.

And of course would never try to get her account number to finance their
activities or anything...

>  The theory is that they are trying to nibble away at
>> the financial structure of the country.  The rep said that this is
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
>
> Thanks, but the rep you spoke to was an idiot.

Almost as dumb as someone who wouldn't consider this a possibility?

LG
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Citizen_Cain - 23 Oct 2004 03:27 GMT
> >> Passing on a warning:
> >>
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>
> Almost as dumb as someone who wouldn't consider this a possibility?

Or someone who responds to it?   Moron.
LadyTech - 25 Oct 2004 01:16 GMT
> >> Passing on a warning:
> >>
[quoted text clipped - 26 lines]
>
> LG

Thank you! I was just simply passing this on because yes they CAN get
mine and others account numbers to finance their activities.
Stephen Oakes - 25 Oct 2004 02:48 GMT
"LadyTech" <nomailplease@dot.com> wrote...
> Thank you! I was just simply passing this on because yes they CAN get
> mine and others account numbers to finance their activities.

It's attempted theft - pure and simple.  Good old, old-fashioned, standard
USAian theft.

Of course "terrorists" *could* do it.  So could Eskimos.

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Stephen Oakes
LadyTech - 26 Oct 2004 00:07 GMT
> "LadyTech" <nomailplease@dot.com> wrote...
> > Thank you! I was just simply passing this on because yes they CAN get
> > mine and others account numbers to finance their activities.
>
> It's attempted theft - pure and simple.  Good old, old-fashioned, standard
> USAian theft.

USAian's? Do you have something against Americans?

Enough of the cross-posting, okay....

> Of course "terrorists" *could* do it.  So could Eskimos.
>
> --
> Stephen Oakes
Citizen_Cain - 25 Oct 2004 07:29 GMT
> > >> Passing on a warning:
> > >>
[quoted text clipped - 36 lines]
> Thank you! I was just simply passing this on because yes they CAN get
> mine and others account numbers to finance their activities.

So the next star of the stolen credit card commercials with criminal voice
overs will be Bin Laden?  Give me a break.
LadyTech - 26 Oct 2004 00:01 GMT
> > > >> Passing on a warning:
> > > >>
[quoted text clipped - 39 lines]
> So the next star of the stolen credit card commercials with criminal voice
> overs will be Bin Laden?  Give me a break.

Actually I'm not the one that actually said they were terrorists....
the woman on the phone from customer support said this.... I was only
passing on the message... of course it's probably just some bored
college kids with nothing better to do...
 
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