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Yanco's first molt continues...

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Robert W. Cunningham - 31 Aug 2003 04:46 GMT
Well, it's been nearly three weeks since I got back from vacation and
retrieved a very sorry looking Yanco from being boarded at the pet
store.  Her feathers looked messy and gunky, and she was continually
shedding a dander snowstorm.

Much of the molt has completed, and Yanco has now replaced nearly 1/3 of
her previously clipped flight feathers.  When she tries REAL hard, she
can fly UP a nearly a foot!  What's really impressive is that she can
now maintain flat horizontal flight for about 15 feet.  True willful and
flexible flight still eludes her.

And about 1/3 of her broken tail feathers have been replaced.  She
really had no butt for some time, due mainly to plopping onto the ground
after each frantic flight attempt.  Now that Yanco has more flight
feathers, landings are far gentler, and are no longer snapping her tail
feathers!  Yay!  If I ever do again have Yanco clipped, I'll make sure
it is the MINIMUM needed to keep her from flying away.  Her first
clipping went a bit too far.

I finally realized why 'tiel owners really do need to learn to preen
their solitary birds:  Yanco's crest feathers didn't reappear until I
carefully and diligently preened her head MANY times.  I can't begin to
describe the drifts and banks of dander that formed on my lap just by
preening only the feathers on her head.

Despite being a glutton for head preening, even Yanco would eventually
reach the "ENOUGH!" point.  When I'd greet her in the morning, all she'd
do is bow her head toward me, which she soon trained me to recognize as
the 'tiel "Preen My Head!" command.  So I'd preen her while the water
for my coffee was in the microwave.  I'd preen her while reading my
email.  Even a moment's hesitation would be met by an indignant and
demanding squawk.

Then, right in the middle of my preening her, without any notice
whatsoever, Yanco would suddenly issue a bizarre low-pitched chirp that
sounded almost like a small growling bark.  If I didn't remove my hand
promptly, I'd receive a quick nip, which served to train me that her
bark was NOT worse than her bite!

Over and over, day after day, the cycle continued:  "Preen me NOW!"
Which some time later would always be followed by "Enough! Get your
hands off me!"

What right does Yanco have to act this way?  I mean, it's not like she's
my girlfriend or anything!

True, she does now have a truly splendid crest, far more regal than the
one she had when I got her.  But, I mean, what a demanding little
bitch!  I'm not her boyfriend, and I'm not her hairdresser!

How do I make her understand this?  Or do I simply need to persevere
until her molt completes?

Never again will I EVER complain about PMS and menstrual periods...
Human males have it EASY when it comes to human females!  For how much
longer will this $!@#$!$# molt continue?

Anyhow, back to the flight feathers:

I intend to try to flight train Yanco as soon as she can fly with some
control.  However, before I start, I do have a couple questions:

1. I intend to train Yanco using a clicker and/or snapping my fingers as
her "command cue".  While I've seen this achieved with over a hundred
larger parrots, I've never seen it done with one as small as a 'tiel.
Has anyone ever seen a parrot as small as a 'tiel respond to ANY command
cues, audible or otherwise?  I'm concerned her mental abilities may be
too limited to be up to the training task, and I don't want to bother
her if there's no chance of success.

2. A key part of the training process will be totally positive
reinforcement with small treats.  Initially, I'll simply do click-treat
click-treat while she's sitting on her perch, to condition her to
associate the click with a treat.  Later, I'll start adding small tasks
between the click and the treat.  Such tasks will start with simply
having her walk one step to get the treat.  Eventually the tasks will
include flying to my hand to get the treat.

The key is rapid repetition of the click-treat cycle.  Sunflower seeds
work great for larger parrots.  But Yanco tends to take several moments
to tear into a sunflower seed, which will interrupt the necessarily
rapid pace of training.  Does anyone know of an irresistible 'tiel treat
that would disappear in an instant?  Maybe sunflower seeds out of the
shell?

Thanks!

-BobC
Liquid Memory - 31 Aug 2003 05:45 GMT
> Well, it's been nearly three weeks since I got back from vacation and
> retrieved a very sorry looking Yanco from being boarded at the pet
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>
> -BobC

Although I see no problem in doing it this way.  It works with alot of
different species of animals, including cockatiels.  Busch Gardens used to
have a cockatiel show using clickers.  I was able to talk to the trainers
there and what they use and she said, pellets, reason being, when we were
originally training them with seeds they would tend to not eat their normal
food, being filled up with seeds.  When they changed over to pellets, if
they choose to eat, then they could but they were not being deprived of
their vitamins.  She also recommended using different kinds of vegetables as
treats, like brocolli cut off at the top, you can have a little jar where
you reach in and pinch a little out.  If he likes that or maybe a fruit
mixture with vegetables in it.  Something that would taste good and would
also provide some nutrients.  Lory nectar will work also.  Tastes good and
has alot of vitamins in it.

Tony
NaDeana - 31 Aug 2003 06:18 GMT
The squawk that she does when you are preening her is probably because you
preened too much. Blood feathers are still connected to a blood source
(duh!?) and also have nerves attached where the feather meets the skin. If
you preen this area it hurts. OUCH! And you will get a nip.
Thanks for the story. You are a very good writer. I never thought I would
read a story about molting that would be interesting.

> Well, it's been nearly three weeks since I got back from vacation and
> retrieved a very sorry looking Yanco from being boarded at the pet
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> -BobC
OzTech - 31 Aug 2003 12:15 GMT
I find one of the best treats Zac loves is when Grandma comes over and gives
him some thistle from the yard.
He also just dosent seem to be able to leave me alone when I have some
Vegemite toast. LOL

> Well, it's been nearly three weeks since I got back from vacation and
> retrieved a very sorry looking Yanco from being boarded at the pet
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>
> -BobC
Marco & Chuck - 31 Aug 2003 14:41 GMT
Robert,
Here's the website of a couple of animal trainers that use clicker training
with their birds. Their birds range from lovebirds to macaws. They use
little bits of peanuts as treats. Well, check out their website, there's
tons of info there. I've been to their home and shows a few times (and
they've been on tv too), and it's amazing what you can do with positive
reinforcement and training. (If only people would understand this and learn
how to work with their birds instead of punishing them!)

About the molting, many factors contribute to a longer or shorter molt. And
your bird is going to be itchy/tender/bitchy while going thru it... so, be
patient and try to imagine what it would be like to have pin feathers
covering your body! Ouch!

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> Well, it's been nearly three weeks since I got back from vacation and
> retrieved a very sorry looking Yanco from being boarded at the pet
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> -BobC
 
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