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Pet Forum / Birds / Parrots / April 2005A sad tale for a cockatiel
Greetings, I had to pick up a visitor this morning and bring him to work. While I was waiting for him at his Bed and Breakfast, the owner and I started talking about birds. She told me this horrid story about a friend of hers. This friend would roll her cockatiel's cage outdoors when the weather was nice. She thought she was doing a good thing. She apparently left the poor bird unsupervised. (Sheesh). I assume she'd been doing that for a while, I dunno. Anyway, last week a hawk got the poor bird. She was amazed that a hawk would reach through the cage bars and get to the bird. Duh. She exclaimed: "I guess they eat other birds!". BOINK! Man oh man. I'm too horrified to even elicit a response to this behaviour. HC > Greetings, > [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > > HC That's too bad the woman didn't realise this about other birds... and predators that could be around... :-( Indeed. Some folks neurons must just misfire. > Greetings, > [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > > HC You're so horrified by it that you can't respond to it but you can tell the whole world about it the first chance you get. BTW - this falls under the category of 'sh.t happens' and not under 'negligence' ZQ >You're so horrified by it that you can't respond to it but you can tell >the whole world about it the first chance you get. Yes, that's right. I wanted the world to know not to be stupid enough to leave an unattended bird outside alone. I did not want to comment personally on the woman who did it. >You're so horrified by it that you can't respond to it but you can tell > the whole world about it the first chance you get. Yup. To me it was important to relate the story, but irrelevant to detail my personal views further. >BTW - this falls under the category of 'sh.t happens' and not under 'negligence' Your opinion. I frequently hang budgies in a cage outside. This is usually safe. I can't think how a hawk could eat a bird through the bars of a cage. At most it might terrorise it to death. -- Stephen Oakes I think this is an old woves tale! If the cockatiel can't get out the hawk at two to three times the size can't get in. Sounds like the cockatiel got out and she made up a story to defend her honour. > I frequently hang budgies in a cage outside. This is usually safe. > [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > -- > Stephen Oakes >I think this is an old woves tale! If the cockatiel can't get out the hawk >at two to three times the size can't get in. Given the context of the rest of the conversation, I don't think so, or I wouldn't have posted it. The conversation came up because the lady and I were talking about birds and she was relating two friends who are bird owners (IOW trying to make conversation with me). She was talking more about what her friend was currently going through in her life. Thus, the lady was telling me about her friend's problems and that was one of them. > Sounds like the cockatiel got out and she made up a story to defend her honour. Possible, but I didn't get the impression that woman cared too much about it. She seemed to think "it was just a bird". > Possible, but I didn't get the impression that woman cared too much > about it. She seemed to think "it was just a bird". People that think that way, "it was just a bird" should NOT have a bird in the first place... just my opinion. The "little guys" maybe little, but they have huge personalities! :-) They do have huge personalities. Incredibly intelligent and loving. Sugar's mom > > Possible, but I didn't get the impression that woman cared too much > > about it. She seemed to think "it was just a bird". [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > The "little guys" maybe little, but they have huge personalities! :-) Istill have my ozzie osborne and hes 19 years old amazing he can tell allour moods good or bad hes in sync with the family long time to have a bird companion Why post at all? > Istillhavemyozzieosborneandhes19yearsoldamazinghecan > tellallourmoodsgoodorbadhesinsyncwiththefamilylong > timetohaveabirdcompanion "Pizza Girl" "Pizza Guru" "Gymmy Bob" "John Bengi"<nospam@4.me> repeatedly said in unison: >Why post at all? > >> Istillhavemyozzieosborneandhes19yearsoldamazinghecan >> tellallourmoodsgoodorbadhesinsyncwiththefamilylong >> timetohaveabirdcompanion ..we all sat back and heard the echo rattle around the in-trailer sound system as one dweebTV freak yelled at the other dweebTV freak. Finally, after rocking the trailer, someone said: f u n n i e r p o s t t h a n t h e s h i t U p o s t T R A N N Y B 0 Y  SignatureNoSekritAdmirer What do y'all know? It's the super troll! My own echo! Worships the ground I post on! ...and he has a decent browser now too! Too many names to mention in one post! Ask him for any post on usenet. He keeps every posting ever made on Usenet so he can try to intimidate people with them. Rereads them 24/7 because he can't remember things outside the institution. Knows very little about Usenet either. He used to though until the commitment. Say hello folks! He loves it. LOL What a loser. > "Pizza Girl" "Pizza Guru" "Gymmy Bob" "John Bengi"<nospam@4.me> > repeatedly said in unison: [quoted text clipped - 53 lines] > 0 > Y > I frequently hang budgies in a cage outside. This is usually safe. > > I can't think how a hawk could eat a bird through the bars of a cage. At > most it might terrorise it to death. It could easily grab the bird through the bards and kill it. Maybe it deserved it for teasing the hawk? What was it doing on that side of the cage where the 2 inch gaps in he bars were? I also heard from a friend that told me a person told him that he knew another fellow that had a...... > > I frequently hang budgies in a cage outside. This is usually safe. > > > > I can't think how a hawk could eat a bird through the bars of a cage. At > > most it might terrorise it to death. > > It could easily grab the bird through the bards and kill it. >I frequently hang budgies in a cage outside. This is usually safe This woman probably had her cockatiel on a cage with wide cage bars. You bugies cage bar spacing is probably pretty narrow, yes? Do you hang the cage from the eave of the house? If so, then they probably have some protection from predators. If a hawk could get in to eat a cockatiel then a cockatiel could get out. Think about it people. It's a troll or just bullshit. > >I frequently hang budgies in a cage outside. This is usually safe > > This woman probably had her cockatiel on a cage with wide cage bars. > You bugies cage bar spacing is probably pretty narrow, yes? Do you hang > the cage from the eave of the house? If so, then they probably have > some protection from predators. > If a hawk could get in to eat a cockatiel then a cockatiel could get out. > > Think about it people. It's a troll or just bullshit. Yeah I'm inclined to agree with you there, PiG. If a hawk can eat a bird through the bars of the cage, the cage is far too small. Either that, or as Pam or somebody said, it was frightened to death The cage was probably too small and the spacings between the bars too wide. I've seen it before in parrots we've rescued. I've also worked with raptors in a rehab center. I've seen what they can can do and how creative they can be to catch a meal. It is within the realms of possibility. I also agree with LadyTech. Anyone who thinks "it's just a bird" should not have a bird. PG: I mentioned this story to this group, because I've seen first hand how birds can get nabbed by predators and it is relevant to this group. I'm not gullible. Given the context of my *entire* conversation with this woman, I believe the story and stand by it. I have better things to do than troll quaint usenet groups. > I have better things > to do than troll quaint usenet groups. Then go do them. Bye. ZQ >Then go do them. Bye. Wasn't talking to you. Get a thicker skin or you won't survive in any NG. People blurt out crap they wouldn't normaly say in real life because of the "slap" thing. > >Then go do them. Bye. > > Wasn't talking to you. > >Then go do them. Bye. > > Wasn't talking to you. YOU TIT, go sit in a corner and think why you are such an a.s hole. > >Then go do them. Bye. > > Wasn't talking to you. SFW? It doesn't change the relevance of what you said or my response to it. ZQ > If a hawk could get in to eat a cockatiel then a cockatiel could get out. > [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] >> the cage from the eave of the house? If so, then they probably have >> some protection from predators. A hawk wouldn't have pulled the bird through the wires but he could have got his feet through and made a real mess of it. I've seen birds attacked through aviary wire by hawks and also cats. I had a cockatiel lose a leg to a cat after he tried to pull it through the wire. My aviaries are all clad in 1/2" square mesh. > A hawk wouldn't have pulled the bird through the wires but he could have got > his feet through and made a real mess of it. > I've seen birds attacked through aviary wire by hawks and also cats. I had a > cockatiel lose a leg to a cat after he tried to pull it through the wire. > My aviaries are all clad in 1/2" square mesh. Luckily my own cats (up to 12 now) keep any stray cats away. They know better than to regard the 'birbir's' as prey. > Luckily my own cats (up to 12 now) keep any stray cats away. They know > better than to regard the 'birbir's' as prey. Never mind "Old Molly", it should be "Old MacDonald" lol Seriously though, what is your animal count now? (Lucky creatures too, I'm sure) > > Luckily my own cats (up to 12 now) keep any stray cats away. They know > > better than to regard the 'birbir's' as prey. [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > Seriously though, what is your animal count now? > (Lucky creatures too, I'm sure) Dunno I stopped counting. I never want to count up how much the feed or vet bills are either lol. So long as we can all live good lives, with plenty of good quality food and have clean warm dry living accommodation who cares about the rest :0) > Dunno I stopped counting. I never want to count up how much the feed or vet > bills are either lol. No, I'd imagine it'd be scary lol :-) > So long as we can all live good lives, with plenty of > good quality food and have clean warm dry living accommodation who cares > about the rest :0) Too true :-) >> Luckily my own cats (up to 12 now) keep any stray cats away. They know >> better than to regard the 'birbir's' as prey. [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > Seriously though, what is your animal count now? > (Lucky creatures too, I'm sure) 50+ birds, 100+ fish, 2 lizards, 1 snake, 1 dog, 1 cat, 1 rabbit, 20 tarantulas. Thousands of crickets, mealworms, pinkies and waxmoth larvae. > >> Luckily my own cats (up to 12 now) keep any stray cats away. They know > >> better than to regard the 'birbir's' as prey. [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > 50+ birds, 100+ fish, 2 lizards, 1 snake, 1 dog, 1 cat, 1 rabbit, 20 > tarantulas. Thousands of crickets, mealworms, pinkies and waxmoth larvae. Flipping 'eck Ray mate, you are nearly catching me up.What are the names of your crickets hehe. My now adult son, once had stick insects. They were called, icky, sticky, micky, bicky, flicky,twicky......................... and he swore he could tell them all apart :0) They were in a tank in his bedroom. When my late father came for a visit he spelt in the son's bedroom while the son stayed with a friend. Dad woke up in the morning only to find icky, wicky,sticky,flicky et al had escaped and were all over the walls and ceiling lol. Dad wasn't a huge animal fan although he loved his 2 cats, and I don't think he was impressed at the insects. He thought my african grey was blooming amazing though, and was known to boast to people about his daughter who was animal mad and knew so much about just about anything and should have been a vet'. I miss him. ...and that's just his immediate family. Then there are the pets... > 50+ birds, 100+ fish, 2 lizards, 1 snake, 1 dog, 1 cat, 1 rabbit, 20 > tarantulas. Thousands of crickets, mealworms, pinkies and waxmoth larvae. > ...and that's just his immediate family. Then there are the pets... > >> 50+ birds, 100+ fish, 2 lizards, 1 snake, 1 dog, 1 cat, 1 rabbit, 20 >> tarantulas. Thousands of crickets, mealworms, pinkies and waxmoth larvae. I'll never match your creepy crawly collection between your leg's PiG. Yeah, a few months ago, my brother-in-law lost his cat to a hawk. The hawk came down and snatched the cat up right in front of his eyes up in Mio, Michigan. I saw one chasing a small junco bird around the yard one morning. Usually hawks will not give up on a bird that they are pursuing. The juncos live under our back porch. One morning when I went out to feed the birds, I saw a pile of mourning dove feathers. Looks as if one was a meal. Sad to see, since mourning doves mate for life. There are red-tailed hawks here in Virginia. SS > Greetings, > [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > > HC Excellent. I love to here about another pidgeon getting skinned. I hate though GD things with a passion. Thanx for cheering me up. > Yeah, a few months ago, my brother-in-law lost his cat to a hawk. The hawk > came down and snatched the cat up right in front of his eyes up in Mio, [quoted text clipped - 27 lines] > > > > HC |
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