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Pet Forum / Birds / Parrots / February 2005Flight Suits
I was wondering if anyone here has used the Flight Suit/bird diapers made by the Moores? If so what are your opinions of them? Would you recommend them to other bird owners?  SignatureDigital_Cowboy Live Long and Prosper ___________________ _-_ \==============_=_/ ____.---'---`---.____ \_ \ \----._________.----/ \ \ / / `-_-' __,--`.`-'..'-_ /____ ||- `--.____,-' I have tried the "JetPack Catheter III" a few times but it caused some chafing under their wings. They complained of not being capable of the "Mile-High Club" while wearing them, whatever the hell that means? Birds! Who can understand them anymore? > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > =65ul > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > I was wondering if anyone here has used the Flight Suit/bird diapers made > by the Moores? If so what are your opinions of them? Would you recommend > them to other bird owners? No - and I never will. What a ridiculous bloody waste of money. > > I was wondering if anyone here has used the Flight Suit/bird diapers > > made by the Moores? If so what are your opinions of them? Would you > > recommend them to other bird owners? > > No - and I never will. > What a ridiculous bloody waste of money. No more so then some (most) of those "cutesy wutesy" or "artsey fartsey" or whatever ya want to call 'em "sweaters" that people buy for their dogs. And at least these serve a purpose, they keep a birds droppings off of things that one would rather NOT have bird droppings on. . . SignatureDigital_Cowboy Live Long and Prosper ___________________ _-_ \==============_=_/ ____.---'---`---.____ \_ \ \----._________.----/ \ \ / / `-_-' __,--`.`-'..'-_ /____ ||- `--.____,-' > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > And at least these serve a purpose, they keep a birds droppings off of > things that one would rather NOT have bird droppings on. . . He's got a point! > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > > Hash: SHA1 [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > > > He's got a point! LT, And also IF ya stop and think about it, whom among us has NOT been asked for a sample of their birds droppings? IF one has multiple birds who share a common cage. Then this is a way to ensure which bird which droppings came from. SignatureDigital_Cowboy Live Long and Prosper ___________________ _-_ \==============_=_/ ____.---'---`---.____ \_ \ \----._________.----/ \ \ / / `-_-' __,--`.`-'..'-_ /____ ||- `--.____,-' > IF one has multiple birds who share a common cage. Then this is a way to ensure which bird which > droppings came from. Are you suggesting you would leave it on the bird, even when it is in it's cage? That's just cruel in my opinion. Let nature take it's course and let the bird have a decent crap in comfort. Would *YOU* like to wear a diaper? > > IF one has multiple birds who share a common cage. Then this is a way > > to ensure which bird which droppings came from. [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > Would *YOU* like to wear a diaper? Ninja, No, they also sell pads that can go into the flight suit. After you've had your bird out and about for awhile in his/her flight suit. You take the flight suit off of your bird, then take out the pad and place in bag, and there you've got your sample to take to the vet. . . SignatureDigital_Cowboy Live Long and Prosper ___________________ _-_ \==============_=_/ ____.---'---`---.____ \_ \ \----._________.----/ \ \ / / `-_-' __,--`.`-'..'-_ /____ ||- `--.____,-' > After you've had > your bird out and about for awhile in his/her flight suit. You take the > flight suit off of your bird, then take out the pad and place in bag, and > there you've got your sample to take to the vet. . . Still sounds like a lot of stuffing around and a waste of money. I like the hanging bucket approach to catch bird droppings. You can make it yourself. You will need: Some dental floss..maybe 1 metre (ohhhh... for you USanians...that would be 39.37 inches) A sewing thimble. You know the ones so you don't get pricked (ask Hamm) A drill press and small bit 2 - very small grommets. An larger oven that can reach 500 degress. Some snadpaper A piece of leather, cowhide is best fingernail polish, any colour Drill a small hole on each side of the thimble, just under the lip, equally spaced at about 180 degrees apart (for you USanians that's 180 degrees). Put the rubber grommets into the holes you have just drilled. These will stop the sharp metal edges from cutting through the floss. Now tie one end of the floss through one of the grommetted holes and the other end of the floss through the other grommetted hole. (for you USanians, that's one per hole) Now the tricky part. Capture your cockatiel in a towel to prevent major injury to your pet and yourself. Ether shouldn't be necessary because you want to have your full senses while doing this. Placing the thimble under the vent (poop shoot [for Marco. think "chocolate galaxy"] ) and wind the appropriate turns of floss around your bird carefully avoiding their beak and wings. A little adjustment may be in order to position the thimble where it will catch the droppings in flight. Problems? Q. The droppings keep missing the thimble. What should I do? A. You forgot to calculate the air speed into the positioning of the thimble. Start over with this in mind. Q. What if my bird can't fly after this? A. You have probably wound the floss too tight or caught a wing feather in the mess of floss. Q. What if somebody sees this and calls the animal control people? A. Hey! Dogs wear coats outside on cold days. Tell them your bird likes to wear fishnet stocking body suits and other kinky stuff. It wasn't your decision and he/she wanted it. They will believe anything. Q. The thimble bangs into things when my bird lands. A. Think of this like a cow bell or a cat bell to locate your beloved pet. The sound will alert you of their whereabouts. Q. How do I empty the thimble? It is so small. A. Get a drinking straw and with your breathe draw the droppings out into the straw. (hint: Do not inhale too deeply as the little poops do not taste that good) Q. What if the floss gets caught and cuts my beloved pet in half? A. Always...always...always start with a cheap one from Wal-Mart or one of the cheaper pet stores until you get the technique perfected. These birds will probably die of a disease anyway. Q. What if this kills my bird? A There are no guarantees in life and you didn't pay much for it anyway. Birds are cheap compared to say a new car, so big deal. If you would have paid closer attention to instructions and read all of them before beginning, you wouldn't be in this mess. You idiot! Q. I can't get knots tied in the tiny floss? How do you tie a knot in the floss that will stay tight. A. Maybe you can ask your mommy to help you go into a newsgroup and chat there because you are too friggin' stupid to have a real life. <snipped> Sick. Quite sick. But amusing, nonetheless :-) > > What a ridiculous bloody waste of money. > No more so then some (most) of those "cutesy wutesy" or "artsey fartsey" > or whatever ya want to call 'em "sweaters" that people buy for their dogs. They are a ridiculous bloody waste of money as well. > And at least these serve a purpose, they keep a birds droppings off of > things that one would rather NOT have bird droppings on. . . Bird droppings aren't that big a deal. Unless it's from a Macaw ;-) Tiel poop is very easy to clean up with a tissue. It's part of caring for the bird. Never mind shoving some ridiculous looking suit on the poor thing. >>>What a ridiculous bloody waste of money. > [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > It's part of caring for the bird. Never mind shoving some ridiculous looking > suit on the poor thing. But don't they have suits that use little pads you can change often? I would never use one, but I was wondering this. > >>>What a ridiculous bloody waste of money. > > [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > But don't they have suits that use little pads you can change often? > I would never use one, but I was wondering this. LT, Yes they do, and that is what I was talking about. Ya take your bird out of it's cage, place a pad into the "poop pocket" go about your day with your feathered friend riding along. After an hour or so ya check the pad if it's soiled ya remove it and put a new one in. . . SignatureDigital_Cowboy Live Long and Prosper ___________________ _-_ \==============_=_/ ____.---'---`---.____ \_ \ \----._________.----/ \ \ / / `-_-' __,--`.`-'..'-_ /____ ||- `--.____,-' > Yes they do, and that is what I was talking about. Ya take your bird out > of it's cage, place a pad into the "poop pocket" go about your day with > your feathered friend riding along. After an hour or so ya check the pad > if it's soiled ya remove it and put a new one in. . . So how much a year does it cost to keep replacing the pads "every hour or so" ? Honestly - what a complete waste of time and money. lol > > Yes they do, and that is what I was talking about. Ya take your bird > > out of it's cage, place a pad into the "poop pocket" go about your day [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > or so" ? > Honestly - what a complete waste of time and money. lol Ninja, I have no idea as I haven't yet decided IF I'm going to purchase one or not. And it's no more a "complete waste of time and money" then owning a parrot. I can see where there are some advantages to the system. Such as the leash option. And if in the long run (especially IF someone has either one or more large parrots, or a lot of "smaller" parrots) I can see where it would help to cut down on the cleaning and allow more time for the parrot to be out of his/her cage. Personally, I happen to be someone who accpets bird droppings as natural course of owning a parrot. And I know from experiance (plenty of it) that they DO wash out of clothing VERY easily. Nor (in my opinion) does it smell. The bottom line is that it just may be the "right option" for some people. Obviously it is not the "right option" for everyone, but for some it could very well be. SignatureDigital_Cowboy Live Long and Prosper ___________________ _-_ \==============_=_/ ____.---'---`---.____ \_ \ \----._________.----/ \ \ / / `-_-' __,--`.`-'..'-_ /____ ||- `--.____,-' > Ninja, > I have no idea as I haven't yet decided IF I'm going to purchase one or > not. I wasn't having a go at you personally. I jst think it's a silly product. > And it's no more a "complete waste of time and money" then owning a > parrot. It sort of is though. > I can see where there are some advantages to the system. Such as > the leash option. A leash on a bird? ****ROFLMAO**** How is this an advantage? I think leashes on cats are hilarious - but a bird!!!! >> I can see where there are some advantages to the system. Such as >> the leash option. [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > How is this an advantage? > I think leashes on cats are hilarious - but a bird!!!! People put a leash or flight suit on a bird so they can take it outside and show it off to the world. They don't benefit a bird at all, just the sad owner who thinks of their bird as a status symbol > Yes they do, and that is what I was talking about. Ya take your bird out > of it's cage, place a pad into the "poop pocket" go about your day with > your feathered friend riding along. After an hour or so ya check the pad > if it's soiled ya remove it and put a new one in. . . Do you use them? >>>What a ridiculous bloody waste of money. > [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > It's part of caring for the bird. Never mind shoving some ridiculous looking > suit on the poor thing. But don't they have suits that use little pads you can change often? I would never use one, but I was wondering this. You mean like every 28 days? > >>>What a ridiculous bloody waste of money. > > [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > But don't they have suits that use little pads you can change often? > I would never use one, but I was wondering this. > You mean like every 28 days? No, I doubt thats very sanitary.... LOL!! I think they have tiny birdie poo pads... I think they had them in a pet bird catalog I got once in the mail. OMG! How perverted. > > You mean like every 28 days? > > > No, I doubt thats very sanitary.... LOL!! > > I think they have tiny birdie poo pads... I think they had them in a > pet bird catalog I got once in the mail. > OMG! How perverted. LOL "Just grab your feathered chum and stick it on his bum!" > OMG! How perverted. Perverted? I don't think so. I don't doubt it that you don't think so. > > OMG! How perverted. > > Perverted? I don't think so. > I don't doubt it that you don't think so. > >>>OMG! How perverted. >> >>Perverted? I don't think so. No doubt about it.... WAIT ! Doubt about what? ..............pass the pipe again. > > I don't doubt it that you don't think so. > > [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > > No doubt about it.... >> > I was wondering if anyone here has used the Flight Suit/bird diapers >> > made by the Moores? If so what are your opinions of them? Would you [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > And at least these serve a purpose, they keep a birds droppings off of > things that one would rather NOT have bird droppings on. . . Bull sh.t, would you put a diaper on a dog to stop him sh.tting in your prize garden? > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > I was wondering if anyone here has used the Flight Suit/bird diapers made > by the Moores? If so what are your opinions of them? Would you recommend > them to other bird owners? Sad people who substitute the children they cant have with a bird will put all sorts of un-natural things on their birds and even clip their wings!!! > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > > Hash: SHA1 [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > put all sorts of un-natural things on their birds and even clip their > wings!!! No Brain, And how is that any different then all of those dog owners who bob their dogs ears or tails??? Or put "sweaters" on their dogs? Or buy long haired dogs and then have most of the hair shaved away under the gise of "grooming" the dog??? And considering the dangers in the common house, no matter how "bird safe" it may be. Wing clipping IS a good idea. Don't forget that a bird can't tell that there is a pane of glass in that window. Or that a mirror IS a mirror. To them they see something that looks good to fly to. And as most of us how keep 'tiels and HAVE clipped their wings know. Even WITH clipped wings a 'tiel IS still a strong flyer. SignatureDigital_Cowboy Live Long and Prosper ___________________ _-_ \==============_=_/ ____.---'---`---.____ \_ \ \----._________.----/ \ \ / / `-_-' __,--`.`-'..'-_ /____ ||- `--.____,-' >> > I was wondering if anyone here has used the Flight Suit/bird diapers >> > made by the Moores? If so what are your opinions of them? Would you [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] >> put all sorts of un-natural things on their birds and even clip their >> wings!!! > No Brain, > [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > most of us how keep 'tiels and HAVE clipped their wings know. Even WITH > clipped wings a 'tiel IS still a strong flyer. Bullshit, what the f-ck has flight suits or clipping got to do with dogs? Nobody apart from you has mentioned dogs. You posted this thread hoping for a hostile reaction, you got one. You cant defend wing clipping by saying you cant make your house bird safe or you cant guarantee your birds safety. Accidents with birds dont happen, they are made by irresponsible bird owners. I hope you dont have kids, for their sake. > >> > I was wondering if anyone here has used the Flight Suit/bird > >> > diapers made by the Moores? If so what are your opinions of them? [quoted text clipped - 25 lines] > happen, they are made by irresponsible bird owners. > I hope you dont have kids, for their sake. NBC, YOU claim that it isn't "natural" to put a flight suit on a bird, I resonably asked how is it anymore "natural" for owners of a dog to alter it's appearance. I am SO glad that YOU know WHY started this thread. For YOUR information, I started this thread to find out what others thought about the flight suits, and NOT to get a hostile reaction. No house can EVER be made to be 100% "bird safe" there will ALWAYS be some danger lurking where one leasts expects it. As I said in rpb, I live with and am taking care of my elderly Grandmother who has Alzheimer's, so please tell us how a person who is caring for a relative with said diease is suppose to guarantee that said relative won't accidently open an outside door while the bird(s) is/are out of their cage??? And as I also said over in rpb YOU sound an awful lot like Pam aka "Old Molly." IF you aren't her I am sure that the two of you would make good friends. SignatureDigital_Cowboy Live Long and Prosper ___________________ _-_ \==============_=_/ ____.---'---`---.____ \_ \ \----._________.----/ \ \ / / `-_-' __,--`.`-'..'-_ /____ ||- `--.____,-' > NBC, > > YOU claim that it isn't "natural" to put a flight suit on a bird, I > resonably asked how is it anymore "natural" for owners of a dog to alter > it's appearance. IT ISN'T - AND NOBODY SAID IT IS, EXCEPT YOU. You brought that up all by yourself, and it is totally irrelevant. > As I said in rpb, I live with and am taking care of my elderly Grandmother > who has Alzheimer's, so please tell us how a person who is caring for a > relative with said diease is suppose to guarantee that said relative won't > accidently open an outside door while the bird(s) is/are out of their > cage??? Maybe by key-locking the doors when your Tiel is out and about? Just a thought. As a side note....aren't you worried that your Granmother will go walkabout anyway? Shouldn't the doors BE locked? > And as I also said over in rpb YOU sound an awful lot like Pam aka "Old > Molly." IF you aren't her I am sure that the two of you would make good > friends. ***ROFLMAO*** Hey Pam- if you're reading - you can't even keep out of the firing line when you're not here! LOL Digital_Cowboy - I can assure you that Ray is NOT Pam. > > NBC, > > [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > IT ISN'T - AND NOBODY SAID IT IS, EXCEPT YOU. > You brought that up all by yourself, and it is totally irrelevant. I was trying to make an anlogy. > > As I said in rpb, I live with and am taking care of my elderly > > Grandmother who has Alzheimer's, so please tell us how a person who is [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > As a side note....aren't you worried that your Granmother will go > walkabout anyway? Shouldn't the doors BE locked? No, because right now she still knows that she can't get down the stairs on her own. And last month we were in the hospital for reasons unrelated to the Alzheimer's. And since being back home I have been sleeping downstairs on the livingroom couch. So IF she was to get up trust me I would KNOW it in a second. > > And as I also said over in rpb YOU sound an awful lot like Pam aka > > "Old Molly." IF you aren't her I am sure that the two of you would [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > when you're not here! LOL > Digital_Cowboy - I can assure you that Ray is NOT Pam. I never said that he was, I simply said that the two sound an awufl lot alike. And I wouldn't take Pam's advice IF you paid me. SignatureDigital_Cowboy Live Long and Prosper ___________________ _-_ \==============_=_/ ____.---'---`---.____ \_ \ \----._________.----/ \ \ / / `-_-' __,--`.`-'..'-_ /____ ||- `--.____,-' > I was trying to make an anlogy. But why? It didn't have any relevance to your argument at all. . > No, because right now she still knows that she can't get down the stairs > on her own. You have an elderly lady suffering from Alziheimer's living on the second floor of your house? She can't get down the stairs by herself. Aren't you afraid she might have a fall? > And last month we were in the hospital for reasons unrelated > to the Alzheimer's. So? > And since being back home I have been sleeping > downstairs on the livingroom couch. So IF she was to get up trust me I > would KNOW it in a second. You have an elderly lady suffering from Alziheimer's living on the second floor of your house, she can't get down the stairs by herself, and you are sleeping DOWNSTAIRS??? > I never said that he was, I simply said that the two sound an awufl lot > alike. You also started the next sentence with "IF you aren't her ...." Suggesting that you might've suspected they were the same person. > And I wouldn't take Pam's advice IF you paid me. Your loss. Pam has proven that she sincerely cares for all types of creatures. She gives them a good home, and her knowledge is quite vast. Sure, she can be a bitch (can't we all?), but she still knows what she's talking about. > > I was trying to make an anlogy. > [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > She can't get down the stairs by herself. Aren't you afraid she might > have a fall? PLEASE, tell me where I said that she is on the second floor? You are assuming things that have NOT been stated. > > And last month we were in the hospital for reasons unrelated > > to the Alzheimer's. [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > she can't get down the stairs by herself, and you are sleeping > DOWNSTAIRS??? Again, PLEASE tell me where I have EVER said she is living on the second floor??? She sleeps in what USED to be the dining room, hence my sleeping in the livingroom makes PERFECT sense. > > I never said that he was, I simply said that the two sound an awufl > > lot alike. [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > Sure, she can be a bitch (can't we all?), but she still knows what she's > talking about. Such as mixing old world and new world parrots in the same cage??? Or admiting that she takes some VERY serious drugs, and gets "confused???" SignatureDigital_Cowboy Live Long and Prosper ___________________ _-_ \==============_=_/ ____.---'---`---.____ \_ \ \----._________.----/ \ \ / / `-_-' __,--`.`-'..'-_ /____ ||- `--.____,-' "An Logy" <Nobody@nobody.com> blubbered: > PLEASE, tell me where I said that she is on the second floor? You are > assuming things that have NOT been stated. "No, because right now she still knows that she can't get down the stairs on her own. And since being back home I have been sleeping downstairs on the livingroom couch." What were we supposed to assume from that? From what you said, it looked like she was sleeping upstairs and you were sleeping downstairs. Perhaps if you didn't make such ambigous posts, people wouldn't make incorrect assumptions. > Such as mixing old world and new world parrots in the same cage??? Or > admiting that she takes some VERY serious drugs, and gets "confused???" I'm not here to justify everything that Pam says. (God knows she doesn't need anybody to do this anyway) I'm just saying that she still knows a hell of alot about caring for Tiels. Eg: You don't put a leash on a bird. DER. > "An Logy" <Nobody@nobody.com> blubbered: > [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > From what you said, it looked like she was sleeping upstairs and you > were sleeping downstairs. Oh, and I suppose that people don't have FRONT PORCHES with steps leading up to them??? Even people who may live in single floor houses??? If I had meant that she was sleeping on the second floor I would have stated it. Or did that thought not ever occur to you? > Perhaps if you didn't make such ambigous posts, people wouldn't make > incorrect assumptions. [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > I'm just saying that she still knows a hell of alot about caring for > Tiels. Eg: You don't put a leash on a bird. DER. Sorry, I have seen WAY too many posts from her where she says one thing, and then turns around (sometimes in the same thread AND on the same day) post something that contradicts what she has just said. Such as I recall her having said she doesn't feed her birds pellets, and then saying that she does. . . Even IF they are only a part of their daily diet (no matter how small) she still feeds her birds pellets. . . Hmm, ya don't put a leash on a bird, huh? Are NOT the jesses that a falconer use a form of a "leash?" To wit: Jesses - Leather straps to secure the bird by the legs. Ya know that SURE does sound like what a leash does. SignatureDigital_Cowboy Live Long and Prosper ___________________ _-_ \==============_=_/ ____.---'---`---.____ \_ \ \----._________.----/ \ \ / / `-_-' __,--`.`-'..'-_ /____ ||- `--.____,-' > Oh, and I suppose that people don't have FRONT PORCHES with steps leading > up to them??? Even people who may live in single floor houses??? Yes. But they are called (as you just called them then) STEPS. When one says "stairs" one usually means a "staircase" leading from one floor to the other. The few steps coming off a porch, are usually just called "steps", not "stairs". Stairs suggests a higher level. > If I had meant that she was sleeping on the second floor I would have > stated it. Or did that thought not ever occur to you? Not really. You meant that she was sleeping on the ground floor, and you didn't state that, so why would you state the second floor if you meant it? Confused yet? > Sorry, I have seen WAY too many posts from her where she says one thing, > and then turns around (sometimes in the same thread AND on the same day) > post something that contradicts what she has just said. Such as I recall > her having said she doesn't feed her birds pellets, and then saying that > she does. . . Even IF they are only a part of their daily diet (no matter > how small) she still feeds her birds pellets. . . Like I said, I'm not here to discuss the validity of Pam's posts. I really don't care either way what your opinion of her is. > Hmm, ya don't put a leash on a bird, huh? Are NOT the jesses that a > falconer use a form of a "leash?" To wit: > Jesses - Leather straps to secure the bird by the legs. > Ya know that SURE does sound like what a leash does. Again - you are so stupid that you think I am saying it doesn't exist! CLEARLY leashes for birds DO exist. SO WHAT IS YOUR POINT? Just because there is an invention, and just because many people use it, DOESN'T MAKE IT A GOOD OR USEFUL IDEA!!!! Cigarettes - Something you smoke. Legal. Soooo many people do it. Does this mean it is a good idea? Shock collars to stop dogs barking. Many people use them. Does this mean it is a good idea? WHAT IS YOUR POINT? You keep throwing the same "anlogy" up in the air, using different words, yet you have still failed to make any valid point out of it. >> Oh, and I suppose that people don't have FRONT PORCHES with steps leading >> up to them??? Even people who may live in single floor houses??? [quoted text clipped - 43 lines] > You keep throwing the same "anlogy" up in the air, using different words, > yet you have still failed to make any valid point out of it. Give up on the sad dickwad ninja. You are confusing him and he is digging a deeper hole for himself. > Hmm, ya don't put a leash on a bird, huh? Are NOT the jesses that a > falconer use a form of a "leash?" To wit: > > Jesses - Leather straps to secure the bird by the legs. > > Ya know that SURE does sound like what a leash does. You really are thick as sh.t dc. Falcons legs are much stronger than parrots. Their legs are designed for striking at prey. Jesses aren't used on parrots, they were tethered to a chain not leather and many parrots were injured by chaining them to a perch. Do some research dipshit. >> NBC, >> [quoted text clipped - 28 lines] > you're not here! LOL > Digital_Cowboy - I can assure you that Ray is NOT Pam. OH NO, you told him who I am!!!!!!!!!! dc is a moron, he just has to keep proving it. > OH NO, you told him who I am!!!!!!!!!! > dc is a moron, he just has to keep proving it. Oops! Sorry :- / > I am SO glad that YOU know WHY started this thread. For YOUR information, > I started this thread to find out what others thought about the flight > suits, and NOT to get a hostile reaction. Could you retype the above, it makes no sense. ........................................................................ > No house can EVER be made to be 100% "bird safe" there will ALWAYS be some > danger lurking where one leasts expects it. [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > Molly." IF you aren't her I am sure that the two of you would make good > friends. I'm not molly you dead brain. > And how is that any different then all of those dog owners who bob their > dogs ears or tails??? Or put "sweaters" on their dogs? Or buy long > haired dogs and then have most of the hair shaved away under the gise of > "grooming" the dog??? That argument is worthless. What are you trying to prove? That because lots of people do stupid things, it's okay? > > And how is that any different then all of those dog owners who bob > > their dogs ears or tails??? Or put "sweaters" on their dogs? Or buy [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > That argument is worthless. What are you trying to prove? That because > lots of people do stupid things, it's okay? Ninja, See privious post where I stated I was trying to make an anlogy. SignatureDigital_Cowboy Live Long and Prosper ___________________ _-_ \==============_=_/ ____.---'---`---.____ \_ \ \----._________.----/ \ \ / / `-_-' __,--`.`-'..'-_ /____ ||- `--.____,-' > See privious post where I stated I was trying to make an anlogy. It's "analogy". "*Ninja*" <1123.5813.2134@5589144233377610.com> wrote... >> See privious post where I stated I was trying to make an anlogy. > > It's "analogy". ...and "previous". -- Stephen (HTH!) Oakes > "*Ninja*" <1123.5813.2134@5589144233377610.com> wrote... > >> See privious post where I stated I was trying to make an anlogy. > > > > It's "analogy". > > ...and "previous". hehehe - i didn't want to be too much of an arsehole ;-) But that was the 2nd time he typed "anlogy", so it seemed more than a typo. >> And how is that any different then all of those dog owners who bob their >> dogs ears or tails??? Or put "sweaters" on their dogs? Or buy long [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > lots > of people do stupid things, it's okay? He wants to buy a flight suit and he wants the group to give him the ok. I have never heard of these before this thread, and I have to say that I am surprised that someone invented them and astonished that people buy them... That's all. -- Stephen Oakes WB Steve > I have never heard of these before this thread, and I have to say that I am > surprised that someone invented them and astonished that people buy them... > That's all. > > -- > Stephen Oakes > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > I was wondering if anyone here has used the Flight Suit/bird diapers made > by the Moores? If so what are your opinions of them? Would you recommend > them to other bird owners? What I do when I take my tiel out is I lock my doors. I have SIL's (sister-in-laws) that walk right into my house without knocking and I swear they were brought up in a barn because they don't know any better to close the damn door behind them! I'm usually the one that gets up and closes the door. I have ALWAYS worried about any of them coming to my house while "Piper" is out simply because of the door being left open. Also, sometimes I bring "Piper" into another room in the house and let him have the run of the room and then I close the door. He usually doesn't make that much of a mess in the room. > Also, sometimes I bring "Piper" into another room in > the house and let him have the run of the room and then I close the > door. He usually doesn't make that much of a mess in the room. I do this also :-) Give Rouge the run of the loungeroom usually, with the door closed, and the outside doors of the house keylocked. Just to be on the safe side. >> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- >> Hash: SHA1 [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > What I do when I take my tiel out is I lock my doors. I have SIL's > (sister-in-laws) That's sisters-in-law > that walk right into my house without knocking and I swear they were > brought up in a barn because they don't know any better to close the damn [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > room and then I close the door. He usually doesn't make that much of a > mess in the room. Why is Piper in quotes? is that not his real name? ZQ > That's sisters-in-law > Why is Piper in quotes? is that not his real name? You're bored, aren't you jynx? > That's sisters-in-law > > Why is Piper in quotes? is that not his real name? > > ZQ Damn! You're good! I knew you'd catch it! Piper is his real name. I should actually call them outlaws because thats what they are and always will be. |
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