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euthanasia - cockatiel - right or wrong?

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Kobi - 02 May 2005 15:52 GMT
Sunday night we had our 9 year old cockatiel euthanized because of a
diagnosis of chronic renal failure. She began the day fairly normal, but,
as the day went on she slept more and more, and finally became unable to
perch. She refused to eat her normal food, and when we would get her out
and hand feed her, we're not sure if she was actually eating or going
through the motions. A visit to her vet gave her a tube feeding and a
referral to the emergency clinic. They tested her urine and found a lot
of hemolyzed blood (the vet said the test stick turned green
immediately), and gave her another small tube feeding to help rehydrate
her, which was brought back up within 10 minutes, even through the nose.
The vet had an online consultation with Cornell and the Univ. of Penn.
staff and we were given the choice of a) transporting her there (at least
a 4 hour drive), taking her home and waiting it out, or ending it then
and there. With much discussion, we chose to end the suffering.

Her past history (over the last few months) were 2-3 trips to the vet due
to noticeable weight loss, where they would find an infection and treat
her with Baetril (?). She would perk up and go back to normal. But she
was getting increasingly skittish, more prone to frighting and falling
from her perch. She would act a little dazed, as if she wasn't sure of
her surroundings, and would hold her right foot as if she could not use
it. After about 15-20 minutes, she would seem normal and all was well.

But our questions were
1.    did we do the right thing right then and there?
2.    was she in pain or otherwise suffering
3.    did we have an alternate treatment or would we have just been
prolonging the inevitable? (we were told of dialysis but that was a 3
hour trip each time and probably very expensive. Plus we thought it
unfair to keep having to stick her.

My wife is devastated about this. That bird saw her through college, her
first job, her first apartment, marriage, and a whole lot of other
things. But she is feeling guilty, for lack of better words, that she
didn't do enough or the right thing.
Unique User Name - 02 May 2005 17:24 GMT
Your post made me cry.  I am so sorry to hear of your loss.  Please pass my
condolences onto your wife.....I can only imagine what she is going through,
and dread the day I lose my little friend, too.
I don't think you or your wife should feel guilty for a single second.  You
absolutely did the best - and most humane - thing for your pet.  I will
never forget your story and hope that, if I am ever in a similar situation
with my tiel, that I will be able to draw upon your experience and do the
right thing - that being, EXACTLY what you did - for my birdie.
Please tell your wife that I feel that, if your bird were now able to speak,
she would THANK her for taking her out of her pain, and allowing her to
sleep in peace.
You did the right thing.

> Sunday night we had our 9 year old cockatiel euthanized because of a
> diagnosis of chronic renal failure. She began the day fairly normal, but,
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> things. But she is feeling guilty, for lack of better words, that she
> didn't do enough or the right thing.
pammyT - 02 May 2005 22:36 GMT
> Sunday night we had our 9 year old cockatiel euthanized because of a
> diagnosis of chronic renal failure. She began the day fairly normal, but,
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>  But our questions were
> 1. did we do the right thing right then and there?
Absolutely.

> 2. was she in pain or otherwise suffering
Yes, renal failure is horrible and according to my vet makes an animal feel
simply dreadful.

> 3. did we have an alternate treatment or would we have just been
> prolonging the inevitable? (we were told of dialysis but that was a 3
> hour trip each time and probably very expensive. Plus we thought it
> unfair to keep having to stick her.
You had no alternative. She would not have understood what you were putting
her through to prolonge her life if indeed it was even possible.

> My wife is devastated about this. That bird saw her through college, her
> first job, her first apartment, marriage, and a whole lot of other
> things. But she is feeling guilty, for lack of better words, that she
> didn't do enough or the right thing.

She did exactly the right thing. She did what the bird would have begged
for it could speak.
She was caring enough to offer her pet the ultimate act of love and give it
a pain free, dignified, death instead of forcing it to countless painful
processes and a long drawn out unpleasant death.
Give her a big hug and tell her she did the right thing.
Mavis - 02 May 2005 23:55 GMT
I'm so sorry for your loss.  It sure sounds like you did everything you
could.
I'm sure I would have made the same decision under the same circumstances.
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>  But our questions were
> 1. did we do the right thing right then and there?
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> things. But she is feeling guilty, for lack of better words, that she
> didn't do enough or the right thing.
Pizza Girl - 03 May 2005 01:36 GMT
Ask yourself this:

If you were to live the experience over, would you logically decide to do
the same thing?
Would your wife?

It sounds from here you are looking for support and permission from each
other to feel bad about it.
You are the only ones that can sort this out. You knew what you had to do.
Not nice, but you showed courage and did it!

Forgive yourself and tell your wife to forgive herself. Think of what you
and your pet gave each other while it lasted and rejoice in that.

Your pet could have been killed amd eaten by a falcon, or died another
horrible death in the wild, had you not befriended your pet.

Get on with your life now. You have more to give others.

> Sunday night we had our 9 year old cockatiel euthanized because of a
> diagnosis of chronic renal failure. She began the day fairly normal, but,
[quoted text clipped - 31 lines]
> things. But she is feeling guilty, for lack of better words, that she
> didn't do enough or the right thing.
LadyT - 03 May 2005 03:49 GMT
> Sunday night we had our 9 year old cockatiel euthanized because of a
> diagnosis of chronic renal failure. She began the day fairly normal, but,
[quoted text clipped - 31 lines]
> things. But she is feeling guilty, for lack of better words, that she
> didn't do enough or the right thing.

This made me cry.

You did the right thing. She was suffering and she would have thanked
you for it. Think of this - she is happy now and very glad you and
your wife were her "Mom and Dad".

I went through losing my "birdie buddy" over a year ago (he was only
7) and believe me it was VERY painful for me - I cried so many times
and to this day I still think about him and want to cry at times. I
may sound weird, but I buried him in a box along with some of his
favorite toys outside my bedroom window (because that was his
favorite spot to look out the window). Anyway, this was my way of
dealing with the pain was burying him outside my bedroom window. I
had also put up a bird feeder next to his grave because he also loved
watching the other birds. Each day will get a little better than the
one before - take care.
mneptok - 03 May 2005 11:12 GMT
> Sunday night we had our 9 year old cockatiel euthanized because of a
> diagnosis of chronic renal failure.

<snip>

I can't answer the questions you asked, and I really don't think anyone
besides you and your wife will ever be able to answer them meaningfully.
Only you knew the exact circumstances, only you could honestly weigh the
options, only you knew what's best for you.

But I will say this. Anyone putting as much thought and emotion into this
tragic affair is a danged good pet owner. Do another 'tiel the very great
favor of having you for an owner (or pet, depending on your viewpoint) as
soon as the scars have healed and you are ready to move on.

Seriously. A bird deserves a life with you and your wife. Make us proud. :)

Peace, and my best wishes for a quick lessening of your grief.

./k
Tiels R Cool - 03 May 2005 15:38 GMT
Renal failure is ugly and painful, your tiel was most surely in alot of
discomfort and pain that you cannot see by eye, be assured you did the right
thing, your memories will always be in your heart to help you heal, peace to
you and your wife.

TRC
Neo Geshel - 08 May 2005 09:13 GMT
> Sunday night we had our 9 year old cockatiel euthanized because of a
> diagnosis of chronic renal failure. She began the day fairly normal, but,
[quoted text clipped - 31 lines]
> things. But she is feeling guilty, for lack of better words, that she
> didn't do enough or the right thing.

My family is blessed to have a cockatiel that will be 20 years old this
year (he was born late 1985). He is still chipper and active, although
he has slowed down a lot in the last three years. Having had him for
such a long time, I know that I would be devastated if something like
what happened to your 'tiel happened to him. But from the information
you have provided, you did the right thing. They can't speak, so they
can't tell us of the pain and confusion that they are in. It is up to us
to make that judgment call, and I believe that you made the right call.

I also had a rat, named Keiichi, which I had to put down this January
after only 18 months of life. He was my favorite, but he was getting on
in years (most pet rats live only between 12 and 24 months) and it was a
decision between a very risky, expensive and experimental surgery to
remove a brain tumor, which had no guarantee of success, or euthanasia.
I didn't want him in any more pain, so I did my duty and held him as the
vet gently euthanized him. It was one of the most painful things I have
had to do in my adult life, but I had a duty of care to Keiichi, and
when the difficult decision looked me in the eye, I did not shirk my
duty. As the gas took him, he seemed to be happy, as he started to lick
my hand (which he only did when he was happy), and didn't stop until he
passed out. I think that this was his way of thanking me at the end.

Stay strong. You did the right thing.
...Geshel
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Fiona - 16 May 2005 06:50 GMT
Just wanted to say how sad I feel for you both.
Im sure what you did was right for your pet.
My thoughts are with you both.
Fiona

> Sunday night we had our 9 year old cockatiel euthanized because of a
> diagnosis of chronic renal failure. She began the day fairly normal, but,
[quoted text clipped - 31 lines]
> things. But she is feeling guilty, for lack of better words, that she
> didn't do enough or the right thing.
Roger Scott - 17 May 2005 21:56 GMT
Sorry to hear of your loss.  The sickness could of been caused from a number
of things.  Could of been "Giardia", which is difficult to diagnose.  This
disease can be spread through contaminated food or water, and birds are not
immune to it once they've had it.  Signs of a Giardia infection include loose
droppings, weight loss, feather picking, loss of appetite and depression.  In
some birds the infection can lead to other problems, such as cockatiel
paralysis syndrome, which is seen most often in Lutino birds.  Signs include
slow eye blink, weak jaw muscles, poor digestion, clumsiness and a weak grip,
spraddle leg, weak hatchlings and an increase in the number of dead-in-shell
chicks.  Antiprotozoal therapy and supplemental vitamin E/selenium have
successfully treated the condition.

As you said the long trip to and from the vet's office was tiring for both
you and your bird. In this case the meds were not successful in giving the
final cure.  Hard to let a beloved pet go.  Never an easy solution when there
are health problems with a bird.  You were right not to let the bird continue
to suffer.

> Sunday night we had our 9 year old cockatiel euthanized because of a
> diagnosis of chronic renal failure. She began the day fairly normal, but,
[quoted text clipped - 31 lines]
> things. But she is feeling guilty, for lack of better words, that she
> didn't do enough or the right thing.
 
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