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Pet Forum / Birds / Parrots / September 2005Cockatiel prefered sleeping position
My cockatiel appears to seek a sleeping position in which its tail/rear end is supported by an object, such as the rim of the feeding bowl. (Its feet are gripping the perch). Hence it has three-point support and does not need to hold balance all night just on its legs alone. Personally I can sympathise with this situation because I would not wish to sleep standing up and balancing on my feet all night. Can anyone relate how their cockatiel likes to sleep, please ? I would like to know how nature prefers to work in this matter. Thanks in advance, Fred. Always clinging to the side of the cage. This is way they specify horizonatl bars fro cockatiels. > My cockatiel appears to seek a sleeping position in which its > tail/rear end is supported by an object, such as the rim of the [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > > Fred. > Always clinging to the side of the cage. This is way they specify horizonatl > bars fro cockatiels. WTF? So you believe that "they" specify horizontal bars for 'tiels because yours likes to sleep while clinging to the side of the cage? ZQ Nope. Horizontal bars are specified, always, for cockatiels. Check it out. > > Always clinging to the side of the cage. This is way they specify horizonatl > > bars fro cockatiels. [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > ZQ > Nope. You're contradicting yourself. It must be because you know you're a moron. > Horizontal bars are specified, always, for cockatiels. No they're not. They are however, recommended for 'tiels quite often. ZQ ROFLMFAO Good luck with that. You will need it. > > Nope. > [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > ZQ > ROFLMFAO > [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] >> >>ZQ Hi Pizza, Killfile the Troll, I did. It, what ever it is, is not worth your time, there are many other nice people out here. BTW Fred put Foam Rubber in a small nest for his Bird ! What if she EATS IT ! Kevin Usualy animals can pick their own foods correctly but there is always that chance I guess. > > ROFLMFAO > > [quoted text clipped - 20 lines] > > Kevin > Usualy animals can pick their own foods correctly but there is always that > chance I guess. [quoted text clipped - 25 lines] >> >>Kevin Hi, The Foam could be toxic to Chew let alone Eat and even the Fumes could be harmful ! We can't know what type of Rubber Foam it is. Not a chance I would want to take with my Birds. I hope he removed it for now until he gets more info on it. Kevin > Always clinging to the side of the cage. This is way they specify horizonatl > bars fro cockatiels. Sorry Pizza but that's hogwash, I would bet if you were to put a perch where it clings to the side sometime before nite nite time it will perch on it, it may take a day or two, the bird may even move to a different spot in the cage, move the perch to wherever it goes, it needs to perch, I have over 70 tiels and none of em cling to the cage to sleep, I have rescued ones that have and have done what I told you, they will perch, its in thier nature, they need to also lift a leg if so desired to regulate thier body heat, im sure you know a content tiel will tuck its head in it's back, if they never do so it is tense and your bird is not completly at ease with its surroundings. TRC Now which you saying is hogwash? The fact that my 'tiel clings to the side of the cage or The fact that any books on 'tiels recommend horizontal bars? > > Always clinging to the side of the cage. This is way they specify > horizonatl [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > > TRC > Now which you saying is hogwash? > [quoted text clipped - 24 lines] > > > > TRC Neither, just bustin your chops ;-) Horizontal bars are best, wings dont get trapped or broken blood fleathers as easily as vertical or a round cage as well. I do still stand behind what I said about the perching. Peace TRC You bugger!!! Nice one....LOL > > Now which you saying is hogwash? > > [quoted text clipped - 36 lines] > > TRC > Horizontal bars are best, wings dont get trapped or broken blood fleathers > as easily as vertical or a round cage as well. WTF does the shape of the cage have to do with anything? ZQ Ever see a bird before? > > Horizontal bars are best, wings dont get trapped or broken blood fleathers > > as easily as vertical or a round cage as well. > > WTF does the shape of the cage have to do with anything? > > ZQ > My cockatiel appears to seek a sleeping position in which its > tail/rear end is supported by an object, such as the rim of the [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > > Fred. Mine squat in the water dishes which cradle their bodies perfectly. Of course in the morning the water needs to be changed ASAP as it has become fecal soup. >My cockatiel appears to seek a sleeping position in which its >tail/rear end is supported by an object, such as the rim of the [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > >Fred. Many thanks to my respondents (so far). Looking on the Web I have found a number of references to cockatiels' sleeping habits. It seems they are very ideosyncratic and are likely to have various preferences for their sleeping postures. I would remark that a cage (or even an aviary) is obviously an artificial environment to which the bird must adjust. Especially so since they are genetically programmed to live in the Australian outback. Yesterday I provided my cockatiel with its special "bed". This comprises a standard seed box which hangs on the bars. I modified the box by cutting back the plastic in order to lower the height of both ends of the box. Inside the box I put some foam rubber. Last night the bird accepted its new bed and slept soundly, so far as I know. Fred. >>My cockatiel appears to seek a sleeping position in which its >>tail/rear end is supported by an object, such as the rim of the [quoted text clipped - 33 lines] > > Fred. Oh no, Fred she may eat the Foam Rubber !' I don't think that's a good idea. Shred some News Paper and fill it with that or something else. I think others will have something to say about that Foam too. Kevin Mine sleeps at night fully upright, sometimes near the bars of the cage, sometimes in the middle of a perch. Never seems to use a support. What I find is strange is that in the afternoon it will sit near me with it head turned 180 degrees and buried in its back. I think this is because she feels safe. Yet at night her head is always facing forward. tony > My cockatiel appears to seek a sleeping position in which its > tail/rear end is supported by an object, such as the rim of the [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > > Fred. > Mine sleeps at night fully upright, sometimes near the bars of the cage, > sometimes in the middle of a perch. Never seems to use a support. [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > tony You right it feels content and 100% safe with you, there could be something in its sleeping area its not to sure of, do you cover it ? if not, try it. >> Mine sleeps at night fully upright, sometimes near the bars of the cage, >> sometimes in the middle of a perch. Never seems to use a support. [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > something > in its sleeping area its not to sure of, do you cover it ? if not, try it. I put Cindy in another room with the door shut to keep her in the dark. You may be right (although she does not seem afraid in that room during the day). Thanks for the advise, I will try it tonight. Regards, tony Mine likes to sleep in a ring hanging from the roof of his cage. It is a series of connected rings, about 4" radius. Fred, Is this the highest spot in your cage? If so, try adding a perch in a high corner (make sure bird's crest and tail feathers clear any toys and bars). The higher location will encourage your bird to use that spot. Good luck. n >Fred, >Is this the highest spot in your cage? [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > >n No, it is not the highest point in the cage. If the bird is denied the opportunity to find three-point support for sleeping, then he will take a position on the perch and balance there all night. So it is a question of the bird's *preference*. I am reluctant to make too many assumptions. Perhaps if I went to Australia to observe cockatiels roosting in a coolibar tree, I might find they seek convenient forks in the branches where their tail-end can find support at night-time. I am continueing to make experiments and hoping to produce the world's first "Cockatiel Commode". This will comprise a kind of "bed" incorporating sanitory facilities, hence the bird's faeces can drop to the bottom of the cage when he feels the call of nature during the night. Regards, Fred. I had to assume (from mine) they cling to bark on the side of a tree while sleeping. Yes/No? > >Fred, > >Is this the highest spot in your cage? [quoted text clipped - 27 lines] > > Fred. >I had to assume (from mine) they cling to bark on the side of a tree while >sleeping. [quoted text clipped - 32 lines] >> >> Fred. Hello Pizza Girl, The cages in the USA have Vertical Bars in the Tiel Cages. I don't see any other than Vertical Bars for Tiels and Parrots. Tiels can be classified as either Parrots or Bungines since they are the missing link between both. It makes sense since they could get their wings caught in Horizontal Bars. I used to Breed and raise Pigeons and ran into that problem with a small outdoor Pen with rectangle Bars that were Horizontal. They caught their wings often in the Bars and when I enlarged the Pen I used the same Wire to 8x8x8 outdoor Pen but I changed it to Vertical Bars for the rectangle. It made a difference. The cage I have now for my Tiels is 4 feet by 4 feet by 3 feet with vertical bars now. Smaller one has normal Vertical Bars. But I don't lock my birds up at all and they have the run of the room, so they don't spend that much time in the Cages. I assume you don't live in the USA and wonder if there is a difference in the Cages between the USA and Europe. BTW my Birds are 25 and 10 so they don't have the panic attacks younger ones do and a Solar Powered Night Light that recharges the Batteries during the Day or with Lights on. I'm just interested in the difference between Cages in the US and elsewhere. Just because it's the norm here doesn't make it right. Kevin Here? LOL I am in Canada. (missed on all accounts there mate) I have a cage about 2.5 x 3 x 4 feet and (can't remember where) always was told horizipntal bars for 'tiels and vertical for budgies. My tile sure knows how to do the bar release slide down on the verticals though. Actually my cage has both. Horizontal mainly on the sides and vertical mainly on the front and back. He sleeps clinging to the sides. This is why I figured the horizontal bars are a prerequisite for 'tiels. Now ya' got me curious. Need more input. > >I had to assume (from mine) they cling to bark on the side of a tree while > >sleeping. [quoted text clipped - 68 lines] > > Kevin >Here? LOL I am in Canada. (missed on all accounts there mate) > [quoted text clipped - 80 lines] >> >> Kevin Hi, Ya it hit me the same way. I got a catalog for a big surplier for Breeders that's been around for decades and they suggest vertical Bars for that reason. When they sweep their Wings out it's Horizontal and can catch in the Bars but Vertical won't catch. I was wondering if Europe was different after seeing your Posts. I know he was kidding you but from what I have here it is opposit from whay you have. In all stores like Petco and Petsmart and others here they have Cages like that. Also I have a Catalog from that Breeder Supplyer I will post the Addy to when I find it again that sells Cages the same way. (Kind of late here and wife is sleeping.) That's the Supplyer I was going to buy the 12x12x6 outdoor Cage to put outside the window here from. Kevin > Tiels can be classified as either Parrots or Bungines since they are > the missing link between both. > Kevin Did you pull this information out of your a.s? Did you make up the word "bungine" or did some other moron give you reason to believe it means something? ZQ Tazhole. You can run but you cannot hide. Nobody is a piece of sh.t like ".Haress" (last known nick out of over 500 so far) > > Tiels can be classified as either Parrots or Bungines since they are > > the missing link between both. [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > > ZQ Hi Pizza Girl, I got the catalog. Morton Jones. www.ramonamall.com/mjones.html They sell all kinds of Cages for Birds, Rabbits, Minks and other Anamuls. And they are not expensive either. !:?) Kevin "Pizza Girl." <nos.pam@5.me>, HAS blest us all with: [fixed ya post for ya ButtWipe] >> > Tiels can be classified as either Parrots or Bungines since they are >> > the missing link between both. [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] >Nobody is a piece of sh.t like ".Haress" (last known nick out of over 500 >so far) ..doan confuse your guests GymmyB0B//Pizza Girl//Piezzo Guru// JP Bengi They may well leave your table. Winter is coming and you will be needing all the suckers you can find. I was wondering why you were so quiet,, all over UseNEt,, and took a swing by here,,an lo' n beholT..! Here yo is in your Hula Skirt feeeding up Dolly Girl sausage!! Chomp it down Folks...he has plenty of it..! <guffaw> Whomsoever this is: $$$$From: ZQ <trinity3@fasogho.com> $$$$User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.2 (Windows/20050317) $$$$X-Accept-Language: en-us, en Keep at it bloke,, yall doin a great job. This arsewipe sweats on the fact no one looks beyond the page in front of them..and he *will* sneak up on you in another dress,, believe that..! 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[quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > > ZQ I don't believe it, a Troll, here of all places ! Where have you been hiding? Up your Arse ? Some argue they are Bungies and others argue they are Parrots. There are VALID arguements for BOTH ! Some books I've read suggest they are the only link left between the two types. Thus, the missing link. You need to brush up on your Social Skills! Kevin >>> Tiels can be classified as either Parrots or Bungines since they are >>> the missing link between both. [quoted text clipped - 21 lines] > > Kevin WTF is a bungie or bungine or whatever the f.ck you keep talking about? btw - whatever else a cockatiel is, it is also a parrot as are any and all of the hookbilled birds people keep. ZQ >>>> Tiels can be classified as either Parrots or Bungines since they are >>>> the missing link between both. [quoted text clipped - 26 lines] > btw - whatever else a cockatiel is, it is also a parrot as are any and all > of the hookbilled birds people keep. Eagle? In response to this statement: "btw - whatever else a cockatiel is, it is also a parrot as are any and all of the hookbilled birds people keep." huckhead wrote: "Eagle?" SUMMARY OF RESPONSE IF YOU DON'T WANT TO READ THE SCIENCE BELOW: Eagles are falcons with CURVED bills; Parrots are Psittaciformes with HOOKED bills. ------------------------------------------ EAGLE SCIENTIFIC CLASSIFICATION COMMON NAME: bald eagle KINGDOM: Animalia ORDER: Falconiformes DESCRIPTION: Mature adults have a white head and tail, solid brown body, and a large, curved, yellow bill. Juveniles have blotchy patches of white on their underside and tail. DIET: Prefers fish swimming close to the water's surface; also feeds on small mammals, waterfowl, wading birds, and dead animal matter (carrion) ----------------------------------------------- PARROT Psittaciformes * Family: Loriidae * Family: Cacatuidae * Family: Psittacidae (Greek: psittakos = "parrot") Range: tropical and subtropical band, a few temperate * sexes usually alike * diagnostic characteristics: round head with rounded, hooked beak and mobile upper mandible plus zygodactyl toes (2 forward, 2 back) * the only birds that hold food in one foot to eat * primarily vegetarian, often opening heavy nuts * plumage usually bright colors, often with powder down * loud, often raucous voices often good at mimicry * most are cavity-nesters * 2 almost flightless * nearest relatives are thought to be pigeons * some authorities put them as distant relatives of cuckoos, others call their resemblance convergence... n > In response to this statement: > "btw - whatever else a cockatiel is, it is also a parrot as are any and [quoted text clipped - 42 lines] > * some authorities put them as distant relatives of cuckoos, others > call their resemblance convergence... Bollocks > I don't believe it, a Troll, here of all places ! > > Where have you been hiding? > Up your Arse ? and another btw - I've been around these bird groups regularly for over nine years. I've been hiding nowhere. If you bothered to famaliarize yourself with the group before putting your ignorance on display you'd be well aware of who I am and how little tolerance I have for idiots like you. ZQ ROFLMFAO !!!!!!! > > I don't believe it, a Troll, here of all places ! > > [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > > ZQ >>I had to assume (from mine) they cling to bark on the side of a tree while >>sleeping. [quoted text clipped - 68 lines] > >Kevin In the UK many cages appear to be imported from Italy. See, for example: http://www.ukparrotcages.co.uk/cockatiels.html http://www.safariselect.co.uk Fred >>Kevin > [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > >Fred Hi Fred, I'm worried about the Foam Rubber you said you put in the Cage. What if she EATS IT ? Shreded Newspaper or something like that I think would be better. Ask others here before you leave that Foam in there and don't take just my word for it. I say this because there's a Troll I ran into here of all places and already Killfiled him. He may give you bad advice. Kevin "!:?) " <NoSpam@My.Email.Address.Is.Invalid.com>, HAS blest us all with: >I say this because there's a Troll I ran into here of all places and >already Killfiled him. > >He may give you bad advice. > >Kevin ..me thinks u have been had..u feel that throbbing in your arse? Its the Gymmy B0b Troll,,,, feeding you sausage...gobble it up,, theres a good boy! <ROTFLMGDAO> Signaturein response to<p8g4h1dbcpmnm5pj364lnbbsutpqs5o7ui@4ax.com> >>>Kevin >> [quoted text clipped - 23 lines] > >Kevin I think the bird liked the foam rubber, but it filled-up with sh*t overnight. So I have now removed it and cut-out the entire bottom of the box. Instead of the rubber I have attached 6 plastic-covered wires across the box to support the weight of the bird, if necessary. This was only yesterday, and the bird ignored the modified box last night. It slept with its feet on the wooden perch, but again with its tail supported by a (different) seed box. It really doesn't wish to balance all night, for which I can hardly blame it. The Troll to which you refer doesn't really conform to the definition of a real Troll, in my view. Just a silly kid messing around. Regards, Fred. > It really doesn't wish to balance all night, for which I can hardly > blame it. If your bird is unable to balance on a perch to sleep, it is probably ill. n My budgies used to balance on a prch to sleep. My cockatiels never have. MY current male doesn't like to stand on a perch. He would rather be flat footed on a flat surface or clung to the side of something. > > It really doesn't wish to balance all night, for which I can hardly > > blame it. > > If your bird is unable to balance on a perch to sleep, it is probably ill. > > n >>>>Kevin >>> [quoted text clipped - 42 lines] > > Fred. Hi Fred, Give her time and she may use it again. Glad you removed the Foam. If it was toxic she could have gotten sick eating or from the fumes. Their systems are more sensitive than our and wouldn't take much. Can you tell if she has something wrong with her feet? Maybe she cut them and hasn't healed right or something stck in them like a splinter. It's a long shot but something has to explain that. My male is getting old (25) and sometimes he's almost blind to what's in from of him. Other times he's fine. Taking him to vet again soon for a checkup. Vet's on vacation. Kevin |
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