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Raccoon - 11 Oct 2004 18:17 GMT
I'm wondering if I can add "Lo salt" to my fish tank,  I'm not sure if its
available in the USA but we get it here in the UK.

It has no additives, and is reduced sodium, but high in natural potassium
chloride (It says 66% on the website www.losalt.com) The website isnt very
good and some pages dont come up.

100g of losalt has

13.1g of sodium
34.6g of potassium
It also contains anti caking agent which is magnesium carbonate, but doesnt
state how much.

Can someone explain (in laymans terms) if I can use this product, or should
I just stick to old fashioned table salt?

Tess xxx
Gunther - 11 Oct 2004 18:49 GMT
> I'm wondering if I can add "Lo salt" to my fish tank,  I'm not sure if its
> available in the USA but we get it here in the UK.
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> Can someone explain (in laymans terms) if I can use this product, or should
> I just stick to old fashioned table salt?

Why do you want to add salt of any kind?  

Without knowing anything about it, I'd avoid that stuff you describe.
I'd also avoid "old fashioned table salt"  that's iodized and/or
includes an anti-caking agent.  

There are specific reasons why you might want to add Kosher
(or other additive-free) salt, but as a general rule you
shouldn't need to use it.

What's up?
G
Raccoon - 11 Oct 2004 19:41 GMT
Well, one of my fish, Rudolf,  isn't too well,  I posted earlier ("poorly
fish?")  He has little black marks on the tips of tail and front fin, which
Ingrid thought were probably recovering ammonia burns.  He's eating now, but
spends a fair bit of time "resting" on the bottom of the tank, otherwise
he's reasonably active.

Don't think its black spot as all my plants are plastic and he wasn't with
any snails or plants in the aqua-shop, which is a good one, very
knowledgeable staff, and takes care of its fish.

Ingrid suggested I add a little salt to the tank, and as sea salt isn't
suitable, I wondered if lo salt was okay.  Apparently rock salt, or table
salt with no additives is okay.

I always thought the salt you get from aquarium shops was for marine fish
only?

Also, Percy has an ongoing floary problem and when I added salt to the
treatment tank it really seemed to do him some good.

Tess

> > I'm wondering if I can add "Lo salt" to my fish tank,  I'm not sure if its
> > available in the USA but we get it here in the UK.
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> What's up?
> G
dr-solo@wi.rr.xx.com - 11 Oct 2004 21:43 GMT
no... dont use that lo salt stuff.. plain table salt, no additives.  try kosher salt.
Ingrid

>I'm wondering if I can add "Lo salt" to my fish tank,  I'm not sure if its
>available in the USA but we get it here in the UK.
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>
>Tess xxx

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Raccoon - 11 Oct 2004 23:17 GMT
Okay thanks :)
Cant get kosher round here but can get table salt.
Tess

> no... dont use that lo salt stuff.. plain table salt, no additives.  try kosher salt.
> Ingrid
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Gunther - 12 Oct 2004 05:53 GMT
> Okay thanks :)
> Cant get kosher round here but can get table salt.
> Tess

I find it hard to believe you can't get kosher salt:
it's in nearly every supermarket I've ever visited.
But the point isn't the kosherness, it's the lack of
additives.  Like I said before, avoid iodized salt,
and avoid anti-caking agents like YPS (yellow prussiate of soda
also known as Sodium Ferrocyanide).  Just read the label,
even if the box says it's kosher.

Aquarium salt is for certain free of those additives, but
you pay dearly for the word "aquarium" on the package,
relatively speaking. But since you'll not use much,
it's probably the easiest way to be certain of purity.

As for marine vs freshwater, it's a matter of degree:
as a tonic for freshwater fish, you'll not exceed 0.1%
salinity, and if you use Ingrid's recommended dose of
1 tsp per 5 gallons, only about 0.02%.
Marine aquarium water or real seawater is over 3%, and that
would definitely kill a goldfish.  

BTW, the last time I had a fish do that "resting on the bottom"
thing, giving the gravel a good cleaning during a PWC was what
turned him around.  That means removing it all and giving it a
thorough rinsing in treated water before putting it back --
simple vacuuming wasn't sufficient.

Gunther
Raccoon - 12 Oct 2004 17:54 GMT
I know its silly, but I live in Britain and in South Wales, there is no
Kosher salt available in any of our stores, Its proving difficult even to
find salt without an anti caking agent (most of it is magnesium carbonate
not YPS)  That's Wales for you, I tried health food shops but they only sell
Lo-salt!

I'll get some of the more expensive stuff from my aqua shop, its worth it to
make sure my fish are safe.

As for the grave, Its a fairly new tank, its been up and running 4 weeks
before I put my fish in and since then its been happy for over 2 months.
Percy has always had floaty problems, and I only bought the "resting" fish a
week ago, like I said in my earlier posting I stupidly didn't quarantine
him.  However I'll give the gravel a good clean just to be sure.

Tess

> > Okay thanks :)
> > Cant get kosher round here but can get table salt.
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>
> Gunther
Raccoon - 12 Oct 2004 17:59 GMT
3rd paragraph should be "gravel" not "grave" ..doh!!!!

Tess

> I know its silly, but I live in Britain and in South Wales, there is no
> Kosher salt available in any of our stores, Its proving difficult even to
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> >
> > Gunther
sophie - 12 Oct 2004 17:54 GMT
>> Okay thanks :)
>> Cant get kosher round here but can get table salt.
>> Tess
>
>I find it hard to believe you can't get kosher salt:
>it's in nearly every supermarket I've ever visited.

I've _never_ seen it in a supermarket! Difference between the UK and US
supermarket, I suppose.
>But the point isn't the kosherness, it's the lack of
>additives.  Like I said before, avoid iodized salt,
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>
>Gunther

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Jim Humphries - 13 Oct 2004 04:40 GMT
It is not clear to me what the function of the Potassium would be.  Salt is
often added to outdoor ponds to keep bacteria and other  bad things in
check.  Potassium at the very least would be a kind of fertilizer for your
plants but at higher strengths might prove too much for the fish.
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> I'm wondering if I can add "Lo salt" to my fish tank,  I'm not sure if its
> available in the USA but we get it here in the UK.
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>
> Tess xxx
BErney1014 - 15 Oct 2004 01:39 GMT
>It is not clear to me what the function of the Potassium would be.  Salt
>is
>often added to outdoor ponds to keep bacteria and other  bad things in
>check.

It's chloride levels, not sodium levels, and there are different chlorides used
in raising fish.
MrLee - 08 Apr 2006 19:42 GMT
Jim Humphries Wrote:
> It is not clear to me what the function of the Potassium would be.  Sal
> is
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>
> -

For me, I used M-salt - www.m-salt.com - for 1 year to contro
hypertension.  I can control the hypertension to some extent.  I don'
know why I got better but may be because of potassium salt or may b
because of Nifedipine table.  I think M-salt is just like LoSalt. In m
region LoSalt is not available.  I am now considering whether should
avoid or continue using Msalt

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MrLee
 
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