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Pet Forum / Aquaria / Goldfish / October 2004Consequences in overstock
Hi all , I have 29 gallons tank with 6 gold fish. I have read some archive posting , some ppls said that do not overstock goldfish tank , the maths is 1 goldfish for 10 gallons. Maybe i know any fact or truth to back the theory ? Because in my tank , all the fish are ok . Any suggestion is much appreciated Thanks > Hi all , > [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > > Thanks They may be visually ok, but they could be suffering due to stunting. 6 goldfish will give off a lot of ammonia, what are your nitrates? The other question is how long they will live! Hi all , Thanks all for your response. For time being , i will stop added more fish into my tanks. Is any good or bad to add real plants in my tank to have more oxgen and goldfish hidding places ? Any good ammonia and nitrater test kits which are very good and accurate ? Any ideas is much appreciated . Thanks > Hi all , > [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > > Any ideas is much appreciated . Thanks There are loads....check out www.bigalsonline.com Plants will help to suck up nitrates. GF eat plants. plants have to be quarantined and/or treated before put in with GF. aquarium pharmaceuticals are reliable. Ingrid >Hi all , > [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > >Any ideas is much appreciated . Thanks ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ List Manager: Puregold Goldfish List http://puregold.aquaria.net/ www.drsolo.com Solve the problem, dont waste energy finding who's to blame ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Unfortunately, I receive no money, gifts, discounts or other compensation for all the damn work I do, nor for any of the endorsements or recommendations I make. I have a similar situation. I have a 29 gallon tank and a 100 gallon tank both of which are waaaay overstocked according to recommendations. The 29 gallon tank has about 15 fish in the 2-4 inch range and the 100 gallon has an equal amount in the 2-6 inch range. All the fish seem happy and are growing. I struggled with ammonia levels for a while but now have reached the undetectable level in both tanks. It took a while for my biofilter to get established. I must admit that my filtration systems are also waaaay oversized relative to normal. My nitrates are definitely a problem and I change water about every 2 weeks. The bottom line seems to be that (fingers crossed here) I haven't lost a single fish since I established the 29 gallon over a year ago and the 100 gallon about 6 months ago. Am I in for a rude awakening some day? > Hi all , > [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > > Thanks > I have a similar situation. I have a 29 gallon tank and a 100 gallon tank > both of which are waaaay overstocked according to recommendations. The 29 [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > > Am I in for a rude awakening some day? Probably. 15 in a 29 is asking for trouble. 15 in a 100 isn't so much an issue, at least they have space to swim. 2 gallons per fish is horrible for a goldfish! Your nitrates and oxygen levels must be over the top. I have a 63 gallon with 8 fish - very slightly overstocked and they get 30-40% water changes at least once a week, which includes collecting any waste from the bottom. I think I'm overstocked too. I cant leave an aquatic store without a fish! I'm going to take out a mortgage on a huge tank, or at least a few other medium ones. This is taking over my life, but I'm hugely lucky in that my landlord thinks fish are great and has no objection to his property being completely dominated by goldies. What the hell will I do when I have to move??? Tess > > I have a similar situation. I have a 29 gallon tank and a 100 gallon tank > > both of which are waaaay overstocked according to recommendations. The 29 [quoted text clipped - 18 lines] > collecting any > waste from the bottom. stick with more 20-40 gallon tanks and "close them".. ie, dont add new fish to a tank once the correct number are in there... even if a fish in one dies. big tanks are a real problem.. for the flooring and joists, and, if they spring a leak and worst if a disease gets going or something goes nuts with the filtration or heater and you loose a lot of fish. smaller tanks are also easier to clean. Ingrid >I think I'm overstocked too. I cant leave an aquatic store without a fish! > [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] >completely dominated by goldies. What the hell will I do when I have to >move??? ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ List Manager: Puregold Goldfish List http://puregold.aquaria.net/ www.drsolo.com Solve the problem, dont waste energy finding who's to blame ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Unfortunately, I receive no money, gifts, discounts or other compensation for all the damn work I do, nor for any of the endorsements or recommendations I make. > I think I'm overstocked too. I cant leave an aquatic store without a fish! > [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > Tess The whole moving issue is really the only thing keeping me from a room full of fish. But I know I'll be moving out of here in 2 years at teh latest, so better to wait. *sigh* .... > Am I in for a rude awakening some day? Quite likely. Even with good biofiltration, nitrates will build up that much faster, so you'll need to do more frequent water changes. You have very little margin for error or mishap: if you have a bio crash (which actually can happen), you've got less time to detect it and act. I think the crowded conditions might also increase the stress level on individual fish, increasing the chances of illness. You and the fish would enjoy it more if you had fewer fish, more water, or both. I have three average-sized (3-4") goldfish in a 55US gallon tank, and I think it looks just about right. I had to put one of 'em in a 10G hospital a few days ago, and he looks like he's in prison, poor thing. Gunther yup. Ingrid >Am I in for a rude awakening some day? ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ List Manager: Puregold Goldfish List http://puregold.aquaria.net/ www.drsolo.com Solve the problem, dont waste energy finding who's to blame ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Unfortunately, I receive no money, gifts, discounts or other compensation for all the damn work I do, nor for any of the endorsements or recommendations I make. Hi, I read this thread carefully and I'm very concerned about my overstock. I have 10 small fancy GF, 8 are in a 20gal (American gallons) tank and 2 are in my 6 gallon quarantine tank. I know I've done wrong! But I simply did not realise at the time I started out, my book said 1 gallon per inch of fish excluding tailfins, I have since thrown the book away. Right, I'm on benefits and I got the tank from my boyfriend who was upgrading. I figure I could afford another 20gallon tank in a months time. I can only bear to part with 4 of my fish, so I am looking for good homes for them, which will leave me with 6 fish, 3 each in the two 20gallon tanks. If I add an extra filter and change the water very often (I plan to test the water each day) Will my fish be able to enjoy a good quality of life until I can afford a 3rd tank? (this will take about a year after garage sales and depriving myself of art supplies). I was reading Tom Puskars posting "nitrates" and he seems to have it under control. Sorry for such a long posting! Tess |
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