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2pods - 26 Oct 2004 01:30 GMT
I want to change from the fairly sharp slate chips, rocks etc we've got now,
to some softer gravel.

Would I be better moving the fish and water to containers then doing it, or
attempt an "in Situ" ?

Would either of these kill my filter bio bugs ?

Juwel Rio 400
2 comets
3 shubunkin
2 weather loaches
1 tench

Peter
Bill Stock - 26 Oct 2004 02:47 GMT
> I want to change from the fairly sharp slate chips, rocks etc we've got now,
> to some softer gravel.
>
> Would I be better moving the fish and water to containers then doing it, or
> attempt an "in Situ" ?

Hi Pete,

I see you were feeding the Troll. :)

The one concern with changing the gravel in place, is that you might stir up
some nasties (Hydrogen Sulfide) that could harm the fish.  If you do change
it with the fish in the tank, do it over a few weeks. Remove a few cups of
clay chips each day. Then add your new (washed) gravel.
2pods - 26 Oct 2004 07:50 GMT
Hi Bill

Every Troll needs a steady diet of 'mallows (Holy Aquatic 'mallows for
preference) ;-)

I think I'll take the fish out.
I've got to rescue some plant (remains !) anyway.

Pete
dr-solo@wi.rr.xx.com - 26 Oct 2004 23:33 GMT
move the fish out, be sure to use air stone in the bucket with them.... what kind of
filter do you have?  

>I want to change from the fairly sharp slate chips, rocks etc we've got now,
>to some softer gravel.
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>
>Peter

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2pods - 27 Oct 2004 08:00 GMT
> move the fish out, be sure to use air stone in the bucket with them....
> what kind of
> filter do you have?

Internal Juwel.

I siphoned about 25% into containers, put the shubs and comets in, but left
the tench and loaches.
The gravel actually went in a treat, it was harder getting the slate chips
out.
I'll check my water params today.

Peter
Geezer From The Freezer - 27 Oct 2004 09:10 GMT
> > move the fish out, be sure to use air stone in the bucket with them....
> > what kind of
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>
> Peter

Peter,

The internal juwel filters aren't that great. I'd suggest getting another one to
run too.
2pods - 27 Oct 2004 10:34 GMT
> The internal juwel filters aren't that great. I'd suggest getting another
> one to
> run too.

I heard that about them.
This one is 5ltr biomedia, with 1000lph power head, and there's certainly
plenty of current and the water test very clean.

I'd like to get the whole thing (stuck on box and all) out of there, and get
something like a Eheim proII 2048 which is more like the stuff I use for my
ponds :-)

Would you recommend something else ?

Peter
Geezer From The Freezer - 27 Oct 2004 13:39 GMT
> > The internal juwel filters aren't that great. I'd suggest getting another
> > one to
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>
> Peter

Peter,

Well I have a crappy internal one at the moment too (supposedly 1000l per hour
too)
and another which does another 1000l per hour (but smaller media space). I do
have
a Rena Filstar Xp3 external canister which has a HUGE media area which I need to
set-up, but as I'm trying to sell my house, I've been reluctant to install it.

The Eheim ProII's are supposed to be very good, but are expensive, but if you
can afford it why not. Are you in the UK??
2pods - 27 Oct 2004 15:18 GMT
"> Well I have a crappy internal one at the moment too (supposedly 1000l per
hour
> too)
> and another which does another 1000l per hour (but smaller media space). I
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> you
> can afford it why not. Are you in the UK??

Can't afford it at the moment :-(
Yes, I'm in Scotland

Peter
dr-solo@wi.rr.xx.com - 28 Oct 2004 01:34 GMT
so get a whisper #3, around 25 bucks I think onlnine.  Ingrid

>"> Well I have a crappy internal one at the moment too (supposedly 1000l per
>hour
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>
>Peter

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
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http://puregold.aquaria.net/
www.drsolo.com
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~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Unfortunately, I receive no money, gifts, discounts or other
compensation for all the damn work I do, nor for any of the
endorsements or recommendations I make.
 
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