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Pet Forum / Aquaria / Goldfish / April 2006More Advice Requested about my Blackmoors
I'm sure you remember me from the Blackmoor resting by the heater thread... The remaining Blackmoor and the new Blackmoor had been doing fine. Now, about a week or week and a half ago, I noticed that the new one was sometimes resting on the bottom of the tank. After a few days of that (with seemingly normal swimming around otherwise), the other Blackmoor started joining the new one on the bottom of the tank, resting next to him. Now, in the last few days, the new Blackmoor has started spending an awful lot of time at the surface of the water (and still resting on the bottom of the tank at other times). Other times, he seems to be swimming around normally, looks healthy (no rotting fins or tails, not acting sluggish, and doesn't seem to be having difficulty staying horizontal in the water, like the one who died did). The other Blackmoor generally does not swim at the surface. I tested the water and everything is fine - nitrates, nitrites, pH, water hardness/softness, etc. I have been doing partial water changes (25% weekly), treating the water to remove the chlorine, adding the appropriate amount of salt, etc. I think I'm doing everything right...The tank is a 10-gallon tank, and the two fish are small. Any thoughts? Am I heading toward yet another fish funeral? Thanks in advance for any advice. Best regards, ---Cindy S. > Any thoughts? Am I heading toward yet another fish funeral? > Thanks in advance for any advice. > Best regards, ================= Cindy, some people aren't going to agree with me on this but if they were mine I'd look towards a parasite infestation. Gill mites (flukes) are common in GF from pet stores. Clout will take care of them and probably most any other parasites they may have. When mine were doing as you described that's what they had. If you're sure it's not gillflukes then you can use Aquari-Sol or one of the other parasite killers such as Quick-Cure. For a real treat type in Google: goldfish-parasites. You wont believe how many parasites they can suffer from.  SignatureKoi-Lo.... frugal ponding since 1995... Aquariums since 1952 My Pond & Aquarium Pages: http://tinyurl.com/9do58 Troll Information: http://tinyurl.com/9zbh http://tinyurl.com/d8e4 Reading Headers: http://tinyurl.com/amm9s Note: There are two Koi-Lo's on the Aquaria groups. ~~~ }<((((o> ~~~ }<{{{{o> ~~~ }<(((((o> > > Any thoughts? Am I heading toward yet another fish funeral? > > Thanks in advance for any advice. [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > goldfish-parasites. You wont believe how many parasites they can suffer > from. ------------ I did the search as you suggested. Apparently, with gill mites, the fish would have red, bloody-looking fins? If so, mine don't have that. But a few weeks ago, I saw what looked like a long transparent thread hanging off the new fish. Then, as fast as I saw it, it was gone. Now you see it, now you don't. I haven't seen anything like that since on either fish, but now I'm wondering if that was an anchor worm? This being the case, why would you recommend Aquari-Sol or Quick-Cure rather than the Clout? Also, how desperate is the situation? Do I need to run to Petco this instant or will tomorrow be soon enough? (The series of events with the other deceased Blackmoor are still fresh in my mind). Why do you think other people would disagree with your advice on this? Best regards, ---Cindy S. >> > Any thoughts? Am I heading toward yet another fish funeral? >> > Thanks in advance for any advice. [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > I did the search as you suggested. Apparently, with gill mites, the fish > would have red, bloody-looking fins? Mine didn't. They acted like you described your GF acting. A scrape of a gillraker showed the flukes. I have a microscope and the Dr. Johnson book. The flukes don't damage fins when they're in the gills. If so, mine don't have that. But a few > weeks ago, I saw what looked like a long transparent thread hanging off > the > new fish. Then, as fast as I saw it, it was gone. Now you see it, now you > don't. I thought it was coming from your fishes anal pore. I haven't seen anything like that since on either fish, but now I'm > wondering if that was an anchor worm? Anchor worms hang on for awhile. They don't attach - then jump right off. This being the case, why would you > recommend Aquari-Sol or Quick-Cure rather than the Clout? Clout will get most parasites but I read it is "harsher" than the others. I don't know if that's true. I use all these products for parasites. Also, how > desperate is the situation? Do I need to run to Petco this instant or will > tomorrow be soon enough? (The series of events with the other deceased > Blackmoor are still fresh in my mind). It's not that desperate but hard to diagnose over a computer. > Why do you think other people would disagree with your advice on this? Because everyone has their own beliefs and experiences with fish. Plus we have a person trolling me from one fish NG to another. He will disagree with almost anything I say. That's what they do. Also there is another troll using my nym and posting idiotic information on these groups so be careful and check headers before you do anything. SignatureKoi-Lo.... frugal ponding since 1995... Aquariums since 1952 My Pond & Aquarium Pages: http://tinyurl.com/9do58 Troll Information: http://tinyurl.com/9zbh http://tinyurl.com/d8e4 Reading Headers: http://tinyurl.com/amm9s Note: There are two Koi-Lo's on the Aquaria groups. ~~~ }<((((o> ~~~ }<{{{{o> ~~~ }<(((((o> > >> > Any thoughts? Am I heading toward yet another fish funeral? > >> > Thanks in advance for any advice. [quoted text clipped - 53 lines] > troll using my nym and posting idiotic information on these groups so be > careful and check headers before you do anything. ----------- Okay. Thank you so much for your advice. I will keep you posted. Best regards, ---Cindy S. > >> > Any thoughts? Am I heading toward yet another fish funeral? > >> > Thanks in advance for any advice. [quoted text clipped - 38 lines] > Clout will get most parasites but I read it is "harsher" than the others. I > don't know if that's true. I use all these products for parasites. --------------- I went to the Petco to get the Clout. The teenaged clerk told me they no longer carried it. She suggested the Aquari-Sol because it was gentle and safe. I said "Yes, but will it kill gill flukes?" She looked at the label and assured me that the Aquari-Sol "kills lots of parasites." I said "Yes, but it's rather useless if it can't kill the ones my fish have." She just kept insisting to me that the Aquari-Sol would "kill lots of parasites." Then, she started explaining to me that putting some salt in the aquarium would be another option....i.e., totally clueless <sigh> To make a long story short, since I wasn't really sure what my fish had (but I knew what they didn't have), I opted for the Aquari-Sol (rather than the Maracide, which would definitely kill flukes but has high toxicity). I figured if the Aquari-Sol worked, great! and if it didn't work, I could go for the more potent stuff later. In the meantime, I found a website that sold a product called Prazipro? (it was described as a low-toxicity product that would kill gill flukes). I was going to order it, but the phone number given turned out to be a fax machine. Then, I saw that one of the fish was hiding behind the heater (like the one who died had done). I decided I didn't want to order anything over the internet and then have to wait 3 to 5 days until it arrived. My husband returned to Petco for the Maracide. Again, the same teenaged clerk was trying to talk him out of it, this time suggesting that perhaps the fish had Ich. My husband phoned me from his cell phone. I told him the fish didn't have Ich and could he please just buy the Maracide, like I had asked him to. (The clerk walked off in a huff). We put the Maracide in the tank, and the fish are doing great! The directions on the bottle say the tank needs to be treated a total of 3 times (to kill the fluke eggs). I was a little nervous about putting this toxic stuff in again. Turns out, my veterinarian has a special interest in exotic animals and a decent amount of knowledge about fish. She advised me that I needed to do the two remaining doses but maybe to wait a week rather than two days. Thank you so much for your help. I never would have considered the possibility of flukes, not in a million years. I would not have purchased the Maracide if you hadn't told me about the flukes, and I suspect that the fish would have been dead in a week or two, based on the behavior I was seeing. Do you agree that the tank should be treated two more times? If so, do you agree that I should wait a week? Thanks again. Best regards, ---Cindy S. Moments before spontaneously combusting <cindys> at <cstein1@rochester.rr.com> was heard opining: Koi-Lo >> Clout will get most parasites but I read it is "harsher" than the >> others. I don't know if that's true. I use all these products for [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > no longer carried it. She suggested the Aquari-Sol because it was > gentle and safe. I said "Yes, but will it kill gill flukes?" It doesn't get gill flukes and remember, these clerks know little about fish and their diseases. She > looked at the label and assured me that the Aquari-Sol "kills lots of > parasites." I said "Yes, but it's rather useless if it can't kill the > ones my fish have." She just kept insisting to me that the Aquari-Sol > would "kill lots of parasites." Then, she started explaining to me > that putting some salt in the aquarium would be another > option....i.e., totally clueless <sigh> Yep! That they are but I'm sure most mean well. To make a long story short, > since I wasn't really sure what my fish had (but I knew what they > didn't have), I opted for the Aquari-Sol (rather than the Maracide, > which would definitely kill flukes but has high toxicity). I figured > if the Aquari-Sol worked, great! and if it didn't work, I could go > for the more potent stuff later. Give it a go! It is gentle as I've used it with young koi, goldfish and baby platys with no problem. It doesn't seem to harm plants either. > In the meantime, I found a website that sold a product called > Prazipro? (it was described as a low-toxicity product that would kill [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > wait 3 to 5 days until it arrived. My husband returned to Petco for > the Maracide. Again, the same teenaged clerk was trying to talk him > out of it, this time suggesting that perhaps the fish had Ich. My > husband phoned me from his cell phone. I told him the fish didn't > have Ich and could he please just buy the Maracide, like I had asked > him to. (The clerk walked off in a huff). Typical! :-( > We put the Maracide in the tank, and the fish are doing great! The > directions on the bottle say the tank needs to be treated a total of [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > about fish. She advised me that I needed to do the two remaining > doses but maybe to wait a week rather than two days. Flukes are the pits. As far as I know they don't lay eggs. Please see this website: http://www.fishdoc.co.uk/disease/flukes.htm . Follow the directions that came with the product. You may have to treat them several times as these parasites are hard to eradicate completely. You will soon see why so many of us keep Quarantine tanks to protect our beloved pets. One diseased new fish can wipe out a whole tank of once healthy fish. Flukes are a sneaky parasites as well. By time time the gills are *obviously infested* it is often too late to save them. > Thank you so much for your help. I never would have considered the > possibility of flukes, not in a million years. I would not have > purchased the Maracide if you hadn't told me about the flukes, and I > suspect that the fish would have been dead in a week or two, based on > the behavior I was seeing. Yes, they would have. I lost many beautiful fantails a few years back to gill-flukes. It was with the personal help of Dr.Johnson at www.koivet.com and the owner of www.goldfishconnection.com that the rest were saved. The pet shop did replace every one of those fish when I brought them the slide and a copy of some info' from Dr. Johnson. That didn't make up for the emotional pain of watching them die despite everything I was doing for them or the pain they must have suffered dying from these horrible flukes. They immediately shut down their goldfish section and took care of the problem....... Do you agree that the tank should be > treated two more times? If so, do you agree that I should wait a week? NO! Follow the directions on the product. Flukes don't lay eggs so I would not follow her advice. This is from the site mentioned above: The photo above show a gyrodactylid embryo virtually fully formed inside its mother- however, the baby of that yet unborn fluke is already forming. With this head start - three generations in one - the doubling time for Gyrodactylus can be as little as 24-hours! It is much the same with dactylogyrids, which, in warm water and ideal conditions can reproduce very rapidly and quickly overwhelm any sick or stressed fish. (CREDIT TO FISH DOC at http://www.fishdoc.co.uk/disease/flukes.htm ). SignatureKoi-Lo.... frugal ponding since 1995... Aquariums since 1952 My Pond & Aquarium Pages: http://tinyurl.com/9do58 ~~~ }<((((o> ~~~ }<{{{{o> ~~~ }<(((((o> Yea, listen to CArol especially when she goes against those that know and your sure to have a funeral for whatever is being treated. >><> >><>"cindys" <cstein1@rochester.rr.com> wrote in message [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] >><>goldfish-parasites. You wont believe how many parasites they can suffer >><>from. Signature\\\|/// ( @ @ ) -----------oOOo(_)oOOo--------------- oooO ---------( )----Oooo---------------- \ ( ( ) \_) ) / (_/ The original frugal ponder ! Koi-ahoi mates.... Your alcoholism and mental illness can be treated. You need seek immediate treatment. These are the ravings of: <o> rec.ponds ~Roy~. -------------------------------------------1. "~Roy~" <wareagle@postmail.net> wrote in message news:43fdb15f.1040860@news.east.earthlink.net... > Well thats certainly different from the last story on your pump, as > you bitched and moaned because it created problems when it died. Whats [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > even do test strips in wtaer checks correctly and you certainly do > not have a freeaking clue do you? --------------------------------2. "Roy" <sonoma1720@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:43ed0297.12447104@news.east.earthlink.net... > Would it work if a few thousand gallons of this stuff was air dropped > on you? Perhaps that ulcer that is so festered on these groups would > get cured.........or is it just a chapped a.s and thighs you suffer > from that give you your venomoneous attitude? Come on tell us, > inquiring minds want to know......... ---------------------------------3. "Roy" <sonoma1720@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:43ec025f.12391478@news.east.earthlink.net... > Testing is something you like to do don;t ya bitch? Come on down my > way and test my waters for some pond scum and see how good you are at > cleaning it out! ---------------------------------4. "Roy" <sonoma1720@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:43eb01f3.12283339@news.east.earthlink.net... >I used to use a product called a Windsong, it was later changed to > the name of Roy Mckoi, and then later it became a Roy lo.......but > its genetically known as a Roy Wolf. It worked fine except yu had > to keep holdiing its head under while it sucked up the skum. Perhaps a > few bricks or weights around the neck of that device would make it > work better....... ----------------------------------5. "Roy" <sonoma1720@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:43ee0318.12576439@news.east.earthlink.net... > I have an even better idea, take uyour head and shove it up your > backside and see if you can find that last idiot that you gave advice > to that fool hardly took it.....Just who the hell are you to give > anyone advice anyhow........ya borked whatever....... ---------------------------------6. "Roy" <sonoma1720@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:43ee0318.12576439@news.east.earthlink.net... > I have an even better idea, take uyour head and shove it up your > backside and see if you can find that last idiot that you gave advice > to that fool hardly took it.....Just who the hell are you to give > anyone advice anyhow........ya borked whatever....... ---------------------------------------------7. "Roy" <wareagle@coldmail.com> wrote in message news:43ec075e.53044606@news.east.earthlink.net... > Did you collect them from Antonio aka Roy Los head? There is a gold > mine of rock in that looney tunes head.....certainly is no brain in > there........ ----------------------------------------------8. "Roy" <sonoma1720@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:43debe94.40984902@news.east.earthlink.net... > Just a google search of ~ROY~ sure results ina heap of > forums, lies, drival and atrocious other sh.t yu stir up. Maybe you > need to go get laid or something... Typical drival form a washed up and wore out homo motor cycle redneck who can't keep a lover yet alaone learn to get along with much of anybody but her sock puppets......duh! -- \\\|/// ( @ @ ) -----------oOOo(_)oOOo--------------- The original frugal ponder ! Koi-ahoi mates.... ------------------------------------------9. "Roy" <sonoma1720@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:43e0b300.38020862@news.east.earthlink.net... > A jackass in every sock puppet collection .......huh ? So > mr/mrs/ms renegade sock puppet, yu need to run on home to your momma > mrs Roy before someone reaches out and busts your stupid > a.s for you........go on with you , go tell Carol she is caling > you.......dumbass! \\\|/// ( @ @ ) -----------oOOo(_)oOOo--------------- The original frugal ponder ! Koi-ahoi mates.... --------------------------------------------10. "Roy" <Sonoma1720@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:43d75aa9.3844095@news.east.earthlink.net... > who really gives a dam carol.....only you seem to worry about it , so > shut the f.ck up ya old bitch! Go service Fred Hall or Phiserman or > one of your multitudes of sock puppets.......maybe help hold the fish > with Freds mother.............. \\\|/// ( @ @ ) -----------oOOo(_)oOOo--------------- The original frugal ponder! Koi-ahoi mates.... -----------------------------------------------11. HOMO "~Roy" <no@maildeliveredhere.com> wrote in message news:433f6867.34150444@news.east.earthlink.net... > Yep, and your still able to get in line and bite my f.cking a.s bitch! > Or in your case you can lick my a.s being the asswipe you are. [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] >"The original frugal ponder" >===<>~~~~ }<((((o> ~~~~~~ }<{{{{o> ~~~~~~~ }<(((((o> ---------------------------------12. "Roy" <not@home.now> wrote in message news:432434c8.59014477@news.east.earthlink.net... > On Sat, 10 Sep 2005 22:14:43 -0500, "Reel Mckoi" > <invalid@invalid.invalid> wrote: [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > "The original frugal ponder" > ~~~~ }<((((o> ~~~~~~ }<{{{{o> ~~~~~~~ }<(((((o> ----------------------------------13. HOMO "Roy" <not@home.now> wrote in message news:43279d6f.85809466@news.east.earthlink.net... > Hey Ron, you can go f.ck yourself too....and then lick my a.s, I could > give a flying f.ck what yuou google up or google down, it matters not > to me. I am not afraid to own up to anything I posted anywhere > ============================================== > Put some color in your cheeks...garden naked! > "The original frugal ponder" > ~~~~ }<((((o> ~~~~~~ }<{{{{o> ~~~~~~~ }<(((((o> ============================== > anytime................no go back in your room and take a prozac > before you stroke out after getting turned on by profanity! ----------------------------------14. NYMSHIFTING: >>===<>From: donotbot...@me.now HOMO (Roy) - Find messages by this author >>===<>Date: Thu, 07 Jul 2005 13:27:49 GMT >>===<>Local: Thurs, Jul 7 2005 8:27 am >>===<>Subject: Re: Roy: Carol geting help from Maxx >>===<>Reply to Author | Forward | Print | Individual Message | Show >>===<>original | Report Abuse >>===<> >>===<> >>===<>Yet another little rat turd named Derek rolled out from under a >>===<>cardboard box and jumped up on the soap bax........... >>===<>Derek, you too are welcome to bite my a.s just as soon as Maxx >>===<>and >>===<>Carol are finished......your about a jerk as well....When you >>===<>pay my >>===<>ISP bill you will be welcome to tell me what i need to do when >>===<>online, >>===<>so until then shut the hell up and go back in the corner and sit >>===<>down................. >>===<> >>===<> >>===<>Ask me if I give a rats a.s if its legal or not to post >>===<>emails.......I'll do what I dam well please, now get in line and >>===<>bite >>===<>my a.s jerk............ [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] >>===<>"The original frugal ponder" >>===<>~~~~ }<((((o> ~~~~~~ }<{{{{o> ~~~~~~~ }<(((((o> --------------------------------15. HOMO "Roy" <not@home.now> wrote in message news:43269cde.85664145@news.east.earthlink.net... > Well nowehre in that or any other post I have made does it say I am a > whoremonger like you must be.........and as far as a slut, no, I [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > it, then you would never leave and have to be kept and fed like a > stray dog! >========================================== >Put some color in your cheeks...garden naked! >"The original frugal ponder" >~~~~ }<((((o> ~~~~~~ }<{{{{o> ~~~~~~~ }<(((((o> --------------------------------16. HOMO "Roy" <not@home.now> wrote in message news:43259bf8.85433855@news.east.earthlink.net... > On Sun, 11 Sep 2005 10:17:25 -0300, Derek Broughton > <news@pointerstop.ca> wrote: >>===<> > I do not think so I merely replied to ap ost that was made in [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > "The original frugal ponder" > ~~~~ }<((((o> ~~~~~~ }<{{{{o> ~~~~~~~ }<(((((o> ---------------------------------17. "~Roy" <Sonoma1720@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:437ecd3e.1430735@news.east.earthlink.net... Is that all you can do Derek is bitch bitch bitch.you sound like a whiney ased woman going through menopause........I see I got special attentin, and I really appreciate it.....Makes me feel good all over LOL..ya freaking dumb assed looser! ============================================== Put some color in your cheeks...garden naked! "The original frugal ponder" ~~~~ }<((((o> ~~~~~~ }<{{{{o> ~~~~~~~ }<(((((o> ----------------------------18. "Roy" <not@home.now> wrote in message news:4329bfb9.94588272@news.east.earthlink.net... > And just what the hell does this have to do with a f.cking black > slotted plant container bitch? > Keep tyhe sh.t on topic or at least have the mentality to change the > subject! You fat assed bimbo bitch! ============================================== Put some color in your cheeks...garden naked! "The original frugal ponder" ~~~~ }<((((o> ~~~~~~ }<{{{{o> ~~~~~~~ }<(((((o> -------------------------------------19. Roy advises poster to do something illegal "Roy" <Sonoma1720@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:43d3e952.28135215@news.east.earthlink.net... > Shotgun, 22 cal rifle, mean bad dog, rocks, and the best possible > method to take care of a heron or any other pest / predator problem is > to follow the triple S method.......Shoot, Shovel, Shutup about it. > >>><>Im having a problem with a heron too... any suggestions? -------------------------------------------20. "Roy" <sonoma1720@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:43dd6636.20070352@news.east.earthlink.net... > Its a promise..............Now you too can lick my > a.s..............and tell your momma to clean up her act, last I saw > her she was a total disgrace even to the hookers she was hanging > with... -----------------------------------21. "Roy" <Sonoma1720@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:43d3e9a0.21631522@news.east.earthlink.net... > TAlk about a dumbass......10 gal pond......and for your green water, > thats what yo get for brushing your teeth in it, the green from your > teeth fouled the "ponds" water.......I bet your Carols next door > neighbor > >>><>Is 12 goldfish too many for a 10 gallon pond? I've got green water. > -- > \\\|/// > ( @ @ ) > -----------oOOo(_)oOOo--------------- > > The original frugal ponder! Koi-ahoi mates.... `--------------------------------------22. "Roy" <Sonoma1720@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:43d63cc6.15820937@news.east.earthlink.net... > No Fred I do not have your daddy and your habits........Whats a matter > fuckwit, you don;t like top posting? Nice to know that so get the [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > (_/ > The original frugal ponder! Koi-ahoi mates.... ========================================== ------------------------------------------23. "Roy" <sonoma1720@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:43dd6636.20070352@news.east.earthlink.net... > Keep the posts coming, Keep complaining about all the posts, and I'll > keep on replying. I have time and no particular place to be........so [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > her she was a total disgrace even to the hookers she was hanging > with... ------------------------------------------24. "Roy" <Sonoma1720@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:43d63cc6.15820937@news.east.earthlink.net... > No Fred I do not have your daddy and your habits........Whats a matter > fuckwit, you don;t like top posting? Nice to know that so get the [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > ( @ @ ) > -----------oOOo(_)oOOo--------------- -------------------------------------------25. "Roy" <koi-lo@ho.com> wrote in message news:44144330.3290116@news.east.earthlink.net... > Whats a matter boy, you have a stuck keyboard or stutter so bad yu > also type what our stutteriing and stammering about? FOAD a.shole! -------------------------------------------26. "Roy" <koi-lo@ho.com> wrote in message news:44134316.3264585@news.east.earthlink.net... > See reply to above post...then go f.ck yourself More messages by this dangerous deranged untreated person. http://tinyurl.com/7v7dy http://tinyurl.com/7qedv http://tinyurl.com/cwsb8 http://tinyurl.com/beq9v http://tinyurl.com/7z7k7 http://tinyurl.com/aeyw2 http://tinyurl.com/beq9v http://tinyurl.com/djx7k http://tinyurl.com/b8dm5 http://tinyurl.com/8cjaa http://tinyurl.com/d824w http://tinyurl.com/bh2hc http://tinyurl.com/bvlvt http://tinyurl.com/7v7dy http://tinyurl.com/88coj ~~ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ This message was posted via one or more anonymous remailing services. The original sender is unknown. Any address shown in the From header is unverified. > In reply to article <440c87e0.341857@news.east.earthlink.net> ===================== PLEASE, PLEASE stop posting this disgusting trash over and over again. It does nothing but feed and encourage the trolls. It doesn't help the situation and I get blamed for everything! PLEASE!!!!!! Thank you. SignatureKoi-Lo.... frugal ponding since 1995... Aquariums since 1952 My Pond & Aquarium Pages: http://tinyurl.com/9do58 ~~~ }<((((o> ~~~ }<{{{{o> ~~~ }<(((((o> And how many times were you asked to stop cross posting and trashing rec.ponds and yet you and your sock puppets and remailers continued to trash it and trash it......so why the hell would anyone want to listen to your requests Carol........Whats a matter bimbo.........do you think more of other forums than what rec.ponds did of theirs, so why should it be stopped. It will all come to an end the day you up and vanish.......turst me on that. >><>In news:HJRH1MOH38783.1120138889@anonymous.poster, >><> a big fat koi eater named <Anonymous-Remailer@See.Comment.Header> bubbled: [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] >><> >><>Thank you. Signature\\\|/// ( @ @ ) -----------oOOo(_)oOOo--------------- oooO ---------( )----Oooo---------------- \ ( ( ) \_) ) / (_/ The original frugal ponder ! Koi-ahoi mates.... Well you started it all if you recall........Now you don;t like it? Too much heat for you so get the heck out of the kitchen then...... I think the crap you started is justs now getting warmed up, so be forewarned, you have not seen anything yet.....and now you went and drug all those other groups into your messed up diapers......shame on you Carol..........yuour honor as you say be damned, and let the forums go to hell due to your bullshit and accusations......Seems funny you say its only usenet it does not matter, yet the same usenet when folks go against you is perceived a s real and a threat to you.....pretty darn choosey aren't you? Sort of like reading a bible or any other book or document, you can elect to read part or all and int can be interpreted different ways depending on where you start reading it from.......your time is drawing near......every day you are loosing more and more so called friends with your bullshit....and numerous posts and numshifting, sock puppets and remailers and multiple news server accounts, all just to trash the various forums.. . >><>In news:HJRH1MOH38783.1120138889@anonymous.poster, >><> a big fat koi eater named <Anonymous-Remailer@See.Comment.Header> bubbled: [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] >><> >><>Thank you. Signature\\\|/// ( @ @ ) -----------oOOo(_)oOOo--------------- oooO ---------( )----Oooo---------------- \ ( ( ) \_) ) / (_/ The original frugal ponder ! Koi-ahoi mates.... Yea, listen to CArol especially when she goes against those that know and your sure to have a funeral for whatever is being treated. >><> >><>"cindys" <cstein1@rochester.rr.com> wrote in message [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] >><>goldfish-parasites. You wont believe how many parasites they can suffer >><>from. Koi-Lo.... Frugal ponding since 1982. Aquariums since 1956. Some a.sholes Pond & Aquarium Pages: http://tinyurl.com/9do58 *Note: There are several *Koi-Lo's* on rec.ponds. But, I am the one and only original Koi-Lo. ~~~ }<((((o> ~~~ }<{{{{o> ~~~ }<(((((o> |
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