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And now we're in the frustration phase of the new tank setup

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David L. Burkhead - 15 Dec 2007 03:40 GMT
Ammonia is all gone in the new 55 gal tank.  I'm just adding about 1
tbsp of liquid ammonia daily to keep the beneficial bacteria fed.  CO2 is
stably where I want it.  The filters are running well.

   And nitrites simply refuse to go down.  They are holding steady at
something between 1 and 2 ppm.  While I could probably salt the tank and
move the fish safely (some technical papers I have turned up on fish farming
state that chloride has to be 10 time nitrite to detoxify the nitrite.  Even
a fairly low salt dosing is well beyond that.  Still, I'd rather have good
quality water rather than be fighting one chemical with another with my
fish's bodies for the battleground.

   And so I wait--and just get frustrated.

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dr-solo@wi.rr.com - 15 Dec 2007 14:36 GMT
it seems the nitrobacter takes the longest to colonize and deal with the nitrites. it
is this stage most people get hung up on.  unfortunately, the nitrite drives the pH
down in the tank and can kill the nitrosomonas too.  so watch the pH.  
Ingrid

>    Ammonia is all gone in the new 55 gal tank.  I'm just adding about 1
>tbsp of liquid ammonia daily to keep the beneficial bacteria fed.  CO2 is
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>    And so I wait--and just get frustrated.
Reel McKoi - 16 Dec 2007 21:25 GMT
>    Ammonia is all gone in the new 55 gal tank.  I'm just adding about 1
> tbsp of liquid ammonia daily to keep the beneficial bacteria fed.  CO2 is
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>    And so I wait--and just get frustrated.
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You may have to inoculate your filter from another tank or use BioSpira.
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David L. Burkhead - 20 Dec 2007 01:49 GMT
>>    Ammonia is all gone in the new 55 gal tank.  I'm just adding
>> about 1 tbsp of liquid ammonia daily to keep the beneficial bacteria
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> You may have to inoculate your filter from another tank or use
> BioSpira.

Did that, all of the above.  Also moved some of the plants from the old tank
to the new.

BTW, I have seen it reported that Bio-spira is defunct in the US.  Plant has
been shut down and moved to China.  Any stock you find now is likely to be
past its shelf-life and the product of the new plant is only available by
the gallon and horribly expensive.  I haven't been able to confirm any of
that so MOIWYW.

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Reel McKoi - 20 Dec 2007 02:14 GMT
> Did that, all of the above.  Also moved some of the plants from the old
> tank
> to the new.

Sometimes it happens that a tank just doesn't cycle. I'm clueless as to why
this happens. Sometimes all you can do is start over again. Rinse everything
in clean water and start again.  I had to do that with a 10g tank about 3
years ago, even though I had used a cycled Aquaclear on it.

> BTW, I have seen it reported that Bio-spira is defunct in the US.  Plant
> has
> been shut down and moved to China.  Any stock you find now is likely to be
> past its shelf-life and the product of the new plant is only available by
> the gallon and horribly expensive.  I haven't been able to confirm any of
> that so MOIWYW.

OK, this is news to me!

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Tynk - 20 Dec 2007 04:41 GMT
> > BTW, I have seen it reported that Bio-spira is defunct in the US. �Plant
> > has
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News to me as well.
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Tynk - 21 Dec 2007 05:19 GMT
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Tynk - 21 Dec 2007 19:27 GMT
> Yes you can get a super duper knob job to go at the new TYNKS KNOB
> JOBS INC store.....which she is going to open up franchises for in all
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> Headquartered in UK and ILL.
> A Limited Liability Co.
David L. Burkhead - 07 Jan 2008 21:45 GMT
And the tank has finally completed cycling.

Fishies moved into their new home:

http://s57.photobucket.com/albums/g206/dburkhead/?action=view&current=55aquarium
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> >>    Ammonia is all gone in the new 55 gal tank.  I'm just adding
> >> about 1 tbsp of liquid ammonia daily to keep the beneficial bacteria
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> the gallon and horribly expensive.  I haven't been able to confirm any of
> that so MOIWYW.
 
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