> The Ammo Lock detoxifies the ammonia it says, dosn't get rid of it. The
> store didn't have Amquel.
I have started doing water changes every other day, while leaving some
water on the bottom. Then I add some Ammo Lock.
You know what I now use the 1.5 gal tank for? For storing and aging the
tap water. But, it dosn't hold 5 gallons, so I'll buy a big water jug.
One day soon though, I'll have to clean out the whole tank. The gravel
must be dirty, and the decorations, and the filter.
I guess I should store some of their old fish water when I do that, so
the cycle won't be totally gone.
Tynk - 27 Feb 2008 15:16 GMT
> I have started doing water changes every other day, while leaving some
> water on the bottom. Then I add some Ammo Lock.
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> I guess I should store some of their old fish water when I do that, so
> the cycle won't be totally gone.
Ok....you still need to learn about the cycling process. This is
obvious from what you've just said about cleaning out the whole tank
and using old tank to keep the cycle going.
Here's a quicky explanation...but I really want you to take the time
and research the cycling process, and then proper tank maintenance.
They go hand in hand.
The good bacteria that keep the tank cycled are living on every
surface inside the tank and filter.
They do NOT float about in the water. They cannot be added to a tank
by squeezing a dirty filter pad or sponge filter, into a new tank.
Adding old tank does do anything for cycling, or to keep the cyle.
Only media can do that. Media being gravel, tank decorations, tank
walls, filter media, the filter's housing, etc.
This is why you never break down a cycled tank fully (scrubbing
everything down to clean it). By doing so you are removing the
bacteria.
When you research tank maintenance you'll learn how to properly clean
the gravel.
Why are you aging water and using water conditioner?
Letting water sit out in an open container is for letting the chlorine
gas out. (chloramine does not gas out)
When you use a water conditioner, it's instant. The water is ready to
go. No need for sitting out then.
ExPat - 27 Feb 2008 22:40 GMT
> > I have started doing water changes every other day, while leaving some
> > water on the bottom. Then I add some Ammo Lock.
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> When you use a water conditioner, it's instant. The water is ready to
> go. No need for sitting out then.
Just why would you need such a product if the tank is not overstocked,
not ooverfed and the water changes are done when they are suposed to
be done. I have never bought more than one bottle of the stuff or an
item that was the same and soon found out its more of a bandaide for
folks that like to stretch things out or are careless in their fish
keeping habits. Of ocurse it would be usefull if a fish was to be
bagged up and shipped like they do with koi and some other fish going
to shows, but for the common house tank, nope not needed if the fish
keeper does what is required....Same thing for chlorine removers. NO
need if yu let the water set out for 24-48 hours prior to use.......Of
course chloramines are a different story but not every municipality
uses chloramines either...........I keep jugs and other containers of
"aged" water on hand all the time and could not lay my hands on aa
dechlor product if my life depended on it. Never needed any in over
20+ years now best I can recall.
All these other items like stress coat and amquell, and others is just
adding more DOC's to a tank that is in all reality alreadyin trouble
or you would not be needing these items to begin with..........Water
changes are much cheaper and easier and quicker than doseing tanks and
fiddling with additives.....and in the end yourt still going to need
that ever so beneficial WATER CHANGE
Tynk - 28 Feb 2008 15:41 GMT
> > > I have started doing water changes every other day, while leaving some
> > > water on the bottom. Then I add some Ammo Lock.
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> fiddling with additives.....and in the end yourt still going to need
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I guess it just depends on how you look at it.
You don't mind having open jugs of water all over the place.
I do. To me, it would be like having clutter all over the place.
I have too many tanks that need water changes. I would need jugs lined
up everywhere.
I can't do that. Instead, I pay $4.00 for a medium sized bottle of
Stress Coat, and dose the water as I need it.
It's instant, and no need for jugs all over, or waiting 24 hours (or
longer if the opening of the jub is small).
When I was a little kid my family had tanks. I can remember jugs of
water being done a day or two before they did a water change.
I grew up with that being a normal thing. Then when I started my own
tank (I was a kid still), I let jugs of water sit out too.
When the hobby went beyond the average tank or two, I started using
conditioners.
Yes, it's a convenience, but well worth it to me.
dr-solo@wi.rr.com - 28 Feb 2008 14:43 GMT
the bacteria (biobugs) colonies ON the gravel. they are not in the water. be
careful rinsing the gravel, dont rinse with untreated water, dont rub them a lot. the
water has almost no bacteria UNLESS the water is foggy white, which is the biobugs
looking for a home. Ingrid
>One day soon though, I'll have to clean out the whole tank. The gravel
>must be dirty, and the decorations, and the filter.
>I guess I should store some of their old fish water when I do that, so
>the cycle won't be totally gone.
Tynk - 28 Feb 2008 15:27 GMT
On Feb 28, 8:43�am, dr-s...@wi.rr.com wrote:
> the bacteria (biobugs) colonies ON the gravel. �they are not in the water. �be
> careful rinsing the gravel, dont rinse with untreated water, dont rub them a lot. the
> water has almost no bacteria UNLESS the water is foggy white, which is the biobugs
> looking for a home. �Ingrid
LOL....I like how you explained a bacteria bloom.
"Biobugs looking for a home".
I picture little blobs with their bags in tow looking around for just
the right spot.
= )~