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Pet Forum / Aquaria / Goldfish / March 2004Cher has a zit
No, this isn't celebrity spam- last night when I came home, Cher the shubunkin had a volcano on her side, spewing white yuck. It didn't inhibite her usual piggy feeding. This AM, the volcano is still visible as a swelling, but it is no longer spewing. It's the only spot on her, the other three fish are fine, water perameters fine although due for a change today just because it's when I usually do it. Is this "pimple" a dangerous thing? do I treat it with something (something I'm sure to not have here at home)? Do I squeeze it? (just kidding there) Will the other fish make fun of her? And an aside- Melafix seems to be mostly tea tree oil, which I DO have here at home. Can it be used in a pinch? Thanks much!  SignatureLaurie, Dark Phoenix dark_phoenix@netw.com Here I am! Now, what were your other two wishes? > No, this isn't celebrity spam- last night when I came home, Cher the > shubunkin had a volcano on her side, spewing white yuck. It didn't inhibite [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > I'm sure to not have here at home)? Do I squeeze it? (just kidding there) > Will the other fish make fun of her? This PM- I went and got some Melafix, because I was worried that I needed to do something. The LFS woman told me this was a fine thing, and to not just put it in the water, but to capture the fish and put a drop of it on the sore. So, after doing a water change and putting inthe Melafix, I did this. Now poor Cher is sitting on the bottom with her fins clamped. I've never seen this before, but it's sure unmistakable. Before doing this, she wasn't as sprightly as last night or even this morning, but not sitting clamped. She looks miserable. Whoops- she just got up and started eating something on the plant. But her fins are still clamped. Was this a stupid thing to do? And- this may be the problem- I didn't shake the bottle thoroughly before getting the drop out to put on Cher. Since it seems to be an oil/water suspension, this probably resulted in the drop being higher strenght than if I'd shook it better. (I'd shook it some, but not till frothy) HELP! Have I killed my favorite fish???? Is there anything I can do? SignatureLaurie, Dark Phoenix dark_phoenix@netw.com Here I am! Now, what were your other two wishes? > This PM- I went and got some Melafix, because I was worried that I > needed to do something. The LFS woman told me this was a fine thing, > and to not just put it in the water, but to capture the fish and put a > drop of it on the sore. Doh! [stepping aside the debate on tea tree oil for treating goldfish] If you had gone to the work to catch the fish, a topical antibiotic ointment (neosporin, et al) probably would have been better... -D Signature"A positive attitude may not solve all your problems, but it will annoy enough people to make it worth the effort." -Herm Albright melafix is precisely the wrong thing to put on a wound at this stage. move the fish to a bowl of the tank water and gently express any pus, clean with peroxide and rub some triple antibiotic creme into the area and return to the tank, add 1 teaspoon salt per 5 gallons, no additives, dissolve first, add slowly. now. this is from the inside out, so get some antibiotic food. romet B is best, order it online. or, get kanamycin, mix with a tablespoon of water, soak a bit of food in it and feed to the fish. this can also be put into the water. but you definitely want to feed antibiotics for a couple weeks minimum. continue with antibiotic creme, you dont want the wound to close until it is healing from the inside out or bacteria will be trapped inside. Ingrid >> No, this isn't celebrity spam- last night when I came home, Cher the >> shubunkin had a volcano on her side, spewing white yuck. It didn't [quoted text clipped - 30 lines] > >HELP! Have I killed my favorite fish???? Is there anything I can do? ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ List Manager: Puregold Goldfish List http://puregold.aquaria.net/ www.drsolo.com Solve the problem, dont waste energy finding who's to blame ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Unfortunately, I receive no money, gifts, discounts or other compensation for all the damn work I do, nor for any of the endorsements or recommendations I make. > melafix is precisely the wrong thing to put on a wound at this stage. > move the fish to a bowl of the tank water and gently express any pus, clean with [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > continue with antibiotic creme, you dont want the wound to close until it is healing > from the inside out or bacteria will be trapped inside. Ingrid Well, bugger all. I do have antibiotic creme- for humans- right here. I was told at one store they couldn't any listing for antibiotic feed (I even gave them the name Romet); the other store said that they were not allowed to sell antibiotic feed anymore because of the shelf life, making it sound like some kind of government reg. So I gave up on that. Hmm.. I can't get back into town for a few days; would maracyn-two work in the feed? Glad to report that Cher is much better. After an hour or so of lurking on the bottom with her dorsal flat, she started swimming around and her dorsal came up. When I walked up to the tank to look closer, she sank to the bottom and clamped her fins, giving me the "I HATE you" look. By dinner time, she was all over, eating like her usual piggy self, shoving Morticia out of the way. This AM, the swelling is down quite a bit- about half the size it was. At the moment, she is ripping some anacaris apart. Thanks so much, I really appreciate the help, SignatureLaurie, Dark Phoenix dark_phoenix@netw.com Here I am! Now, what were your other two wishes? you can probably get kanamycin. >Well, bugger all. I do have antibiotic creme- for humans- right here. > [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > >Thanks so much, I really appreciate the help, ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ List Manager: Puregold Goldfish List http://puregold.aquaria.net/ www.drsolo.com Solve the problem, dont waste energy finding who's to blame ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Unfortunately, I receive no money, gifts, discounts or other compensation for all the damn work I do, nor for any of the endorsements or recommendations I make. Dark Phoenix, You need to get yourself a DrsFosterSmith.com aquatic catalog. Romet is not generally available. It is an antibiotic food used in the Aquaculture community and generally unavailable to the general public without knowing exactly where to buy it from and usually you have to buy it in 5 or 10 pound bags/containers. The other thing you have to remember, that Ingrid either doesn't know or doesn't tell people, is that there are two Romets, one is Romet B and the other is Romet 30; they are similar but different. As a general medicated food, Medigold is a good food that can be obtained from Rick Hess's Goldfishconnection.com. It is a very good food. HTH Tom L.L. ================================== > > melafix is precisely the wrong thing to put on a wound at this stage. > > move the fish to a bowl of the tank water and gently express any pus, [quoted text clipped - 33 lines] > > Thanks so much, I really appreciate the help, > Dark Phoenix, > [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > As a general medicated food, Medigold is a good food that can be obtained > from Rick Hess's Goldfishconnection.com. It is a very good food. Yeesh, sure hope the Romet has a good shelf life- 5 or 10 lbs?!?! Sturgeon size servings! I'll get myself one of those catalogs, tho. I got into town today and got some Kanacyn and gave the fish a dose in the food. The swelling is down some more today; I have hopes of a full recovery now. (was panicked) Of course, the stop at the fish store led to the purchase of another barb, too... sigh... Thanks, SignatureLaurie, Dark Phoenix dark_phoenix@netw.com Here I am! Now, what were your other two wishes? you can get romet in small amounts from Ken. kfischer@columbus.rr.com Ingrid >Yeesh, sure hope the Romet has a good shelf life- 5 or 10 lbs?!?! Sturgeon >size servings! I'll get myself one of those catalogs, tho. [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > >Thanks, ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ List Manager: Puregold Goldfish List http://puregold.aquaria.net/ www.drsolo.com Solve the problem, dont waste energy finding who's to blame ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Unfortunately, I receive no money, gifts, discounts or other compensation for all the damn work I do, nor for any of the endorsements or recommendations I make. I've also got an inquiry in at Lambria... They don't list it, but I've had good luck with them "going the extra mile." -D > you can get romet in small amounts from Ken. kfischer@columbus.rr.com > Ingrid > >>Yeesh, sure hope the Romet has a good shelf life- 5 or 10 lbs?!?! >>Sturgeon size servings! I'll get myself one of those catalogs, tho. Signature"A positive attitude may not solve all your problems, but it will annoy enough people to make it worth the effort." -Herm Albright Dark Phoenix, The only real problem with buying it from Ken or any one for that matter who is selling it in small quantities, is how is that person getting it and how long his supplies sit before they are turned over. This is no reflection on the individual, but if he is buying it in quantity and repackaging it and reselling in smaller quantities there may be a problem with quality from long term storage. Just something to think about. Tom L.L. --------------------------------------- > you can get romet in small amounts from Ken. kfischer@columbus.rr.com > Ingrid [quoted text clipped - 18 lines] > compensation for all the damn work I do, nor for any of the > endorsements or recommendations I make. |
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