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Pet Forum / Aquaria / Goldfish / May 2004Help! Butterfly KOI Sick, Swims kind of in a weird way
I have four 2" Butterfly KOI in a 33 gallon tank, The tank is overstocked, but it's temporary and i do at least two water changes a week. I missed a water change last week, and one of the KOI started swimming in a weird way, it's hard to describe, but it seems like he was partly paralyzed, like he had a hard time moving certain parts of his body, swimming kind of erratically. The other fish were all fine, but they were chasing and nipping at his tail wich seemed to be disintegrating. Why did they do that? Here are the water parameters in the 33gallon just when this happened; Temp 78 PH 6.0 (I know this is bad) Ammo 0.1 Nitrite 0.0 Nitrate <10 GH 60ppm (a bit low) Salt 0.1% I immediately moved him alone in a 55gallon hospital tank. I do 50% water changes with Temp matched aged water, and 1ml/gallon dechlorinator every 2nd day. It 5 days now my KOI won't eat, he sits on the bottom, dosen't move much, what should i do? Temp is 75, Should I raise temp? Should I lower Salt? Is a sick fishtail tastey? (why did they nip at him?)  Signature...Kodiak call Jo Ann 1-251-649-4790 >I have four 2" Butterfly KOI in a 33 gallon tank, The tank is overstocked, >but it's temporary and i do at least two water changes a week. [quoted text clipped - 24 lines] >Should I lower Salt? >Is a sick fishtail tastey? (why did they nip at him?) ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ List Manager: Puregold Goldfish List http://puregold.aquaria.net/ www.drsolo.com Solve the problem, dont waste energy finding who's to blame ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Unfortunately, I receive no money, gifts, discounts or other compensation for all the damn work I do, nor for any of the endorsements or recommendations I make. Hi Ingrid, Called Jo-Ann... She seems to think it's Neural Toxicity or some kind of parasite. Something about Aeromonas at temps above 75degF. She also recommended 1 tblsp of Epsom Salt wich i did (55gallon hospital tank, Aquaclear 500, Huge airstone, 72degF) I lowered the temp from 78. I'm thinking it's Neural Toxicity because my PH seems to be crashing when this happened. I'm still doing 50% water every other day, But he hasn't eaten for over a week now. Sometimes he'll go for a flake or two when it falls right under his nose, but that's it. What more can I do? Please help, I really love this fish. ...Kodiak > call Jo Ann 1-251-649-4790 > [quoted text clipped - 36 lines] > compensation for all the damn work I do, nor for any of the > endorsements or recommendations I make. look in his mouth see if that is swollen. koi can go for a couple weeks easily with no food, probably a lot longer. as long as he is swimming ok dont worry. if the mouth looks swollen suspect columnaris and a salt dip will bring the swelling down. but do call Jo Ann back for her expert help. 1-251-649-4790 along with neural toxicity his "smeller" may be screwed up. so he may not be able to determine it is "food" and they spit it out. try something stronger like a drop of garlic juice on the food, or even fish sauce or a little shrimp juice. Ingrid >Hi Ingrid, > Called Jo-Ann... She seems to think it's Neural Toxicity or some kind of [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > >...Kodiak ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ List Manager: Puregold Goldfish List http://puregold.aquaria.net/ www.drsolo.com Solve the problem, dont waste energy finding who's to blame ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Unfortunately, I receive no money, gifts, discounts or other compensation for all the damn work I do, nor for any of the endorsements or recommendations I make. His Mouth looks ok. I'm keeping up the water changes (50% every other day), lowered the temp a bit more to 70degF. He still sits on the bottom, but that paralyzed like swimming seems to be gone, he seems to be swimming more normally now. And he's going for more flakes. This morning he had about 10 flakes!... I hope he's gonna make it. ..Kodiak > look in his mouth see if that is swollen. koi can go for a couple weeks easily with > no food, probably a lot longer. as long as he is swimming ok dont worry. [quoted text clipped - 32 lines] > compensation for all the damn work I do, nor for any of the > endorsements or recommendations I make. sounds good. it does take time. you got a little salt in there? Ingrid >His Mouth looks ok. >I'm keeping up the water changes (50% every other day), [quoted text clipped - 48 lines] >> compensation for all the damn work I do, nor for any of the >> endorsements or recommendations I make. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ List Manager: Puregold Goldfish List http://puregold.aquaria.net/ www.drsolo.com Solve the problem, dont waste energy finding who's to blame ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Unfortunately, I receive no money, gifts, discounts or other compensation for all the damn work I do, nor for any of the endorsements or recommendations I make. He ate more flakes this evening.... But still hanging in his corner. He will only eat flakes that pass directly under his nose. I'm keeping my fingers crossed. I hope he's gonna make it.... I love my fishy, he's my favorite.... ...Kodiak > His Mouth looks ok. > I'm keeping up the water changes (50% every other day), [quoted text clipped - 48 lines] > > compensation for all the damn work I do, nor for any of the > > endorsements or recommendations I make. |
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