My Bun is sick! Please help!
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jerkface - 27 Jan 2008 18:30 GMT Hello all,
This morning when I woke up one of my four buns, Hoppie, was tucked into one corner of her pen, mashed against the wall. When i took her out to see if she was ok, she could get around, but seemed wobbly on her feet and had a definite veer to the left. (She only has three legs, having lost her right front leg about a year ago in a freak accident, but can usually get around just fine). She is not tilting her head at all, and I checked her ears out for a sign of an ear infection, but they look fine (no redness or discharge, they aren't hot to the touch, and she is not scratching them or shaking her head). Since this morning, she seems to be getting worse as far as stability on her feet goes. She is really wobbly, and has rolled and fallen a few times. Her handicap makes her a little unsteady at the best of times, but I have never seen her act so strangely. Her preferred position right now seems to be stretched out on one side, as it prevents her from rolling/falling. She is not eating pellets, but tried to eat some hay when I put it in front of her. She seems really hungry, however, when she stands up to eat, she has a few problems sitting up because she keeps falling over, and she seems to have given up eating for the time being to lie stretched out as described above. She is not exhibiting any signs of being in pain, and is alert and seems to be in good spirits. She is an older bun (about seven or eight years old) and I am wondering if she has maybe had a stroke? Taking her to the vet right now is financially impossible as my husband was recently laid off. I am so worried about her, and wondered if anyone has any ideas about what might be wrong with her, how I can help her with eating/drinking, and any tips on keeping her comfortable and prevent her from hurting herself. Is there any over- the-counter medications that I can give her to help her with her apparent dizziness (such as gravol, etc)?
Please help! we are very worried!
many many thanks
Lisa
WZ - 27 Jan 2008 19:16 GMT See if your vet will work up a payment plan for you - your bunny is seriously ill and needs treatment right away!
Wendy and Pepper Z Chicago
Professor - 27 Jan 2008 20:09 GMT I agree!
Professor, The Jump, Zolo, Wizard, & Magic Brenda
> See if your vet will work up a payment plan for you - your bunny is > seriously ill and needs treatment right away! > > Wendy and Pepper Z > Chicago Rhonda and Eugene - 27 Jan 2008 21:41 GMT > I agree! > [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > > - Show quoted text - Lisa, this could be the start of pasturella in your bun from the description you give. My last bun, Mocha began that way, had no balance, could not get up at all. Get him to a rabbit savy vet ASAP so he can be diagnosed and treatment begin. In the meantime try to keep him quiet, encourage food (maybe offer it by hand). My vet explained to me that everything is spinning as far as he is concerned, hence the reason he/she cannot stand up right.
It is a very serious illness, if that is what your bunny has, and quick diagnosis and treatment is very timely for him to get better. If it is pasturella, it is a prolonged course of rabbit safe antibiotics. There are also some homeopathic meds you can give in conjunction with the antibiotic that will help keep his system fight this. Several of us here in APR have used Systemajuve with success. Beth, another APR'er in this group can tell you where to get it.
I hope it it not Pasturella and is just something minor, but from what you described, this is how my bunny acted when it first began. Hope this helps some.
I'll keep your little bun in my prayers for a quick recovery.
Rhonda and Eugene (Fuzzy and Mocha FTB)
Beth Aylward - 27 Jan 2008 23:54 GMT we can not tell you how to treat what we don't know. you need to go to a vet.. if you don't you could very well loose the bun. they can go very fast. those symptoms can be many things. would not begin to guess what it was. find a way to get to a vet. you need to asap!!!!! this is meant to scare you.. because. they can GO SO FAST!!!!!!
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Arlette & Cocoa - 27 Jan 2008 23:15 GMT Lisa, You will somehow have to borrow from friends, family, whomever, but this is a vet emergency. You cannot possible see deeply enough into a rabbit's ear to see infection. Something that comes on that quickly usually is an ear infection. Cocoa had it, but didn't tilt, but was dizzy. Are her eyes moving quickly back and forth or up and down? I wouldn't give any meds that aren't for bunnies. Yes, the vet can give her meclizine for dizziness, but you have to take her in. I don't see any way around it dear. PLEASE take her.
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pugnose - 28 Jan 2008 00:32 GMT I am not sure or informed enough to know what is going on with Hoppie, but is sounds very serious. Please ask the vet if they can do a payment plan as previously suggested. I will be praying for her and am sending healing vibes. Please update us on her. Carla Liza and Jodie.
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jerkface - 28 Jan 2008 14:55 GMT UPDATE: Hoppie has an appointment at the vet at 10:30 today...
Arlette & Cocoa - 28 Jan 2008 16:14 GMT Oh, that is wonderful news! Do you know that this is a rabbit savvy vet? I pray all goes well for dear Hoppie.
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Beth Aylward - 28 Jan 2008 17:52 GMT let us know how it goes..
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Rhonda and Eugene - 28 Jan 2008 18:08 GMT > let us know how it goes.. > [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > http://community.webtv.net/jerseybunny/FUZZYBUTTS Please let us know how Hoppie is doing.
Rhonda and Eugene (Fuzzy and Mocha FTB)
jerkface - 29 Jan 2008 03:30 GMT well, it is sad news for little hoppie... she saw dr. middleton today and he thinks she has either one of two things... first and foremost (and scariest) is a brain tumour or abcess that is putting pressure on the part of her brain responsible for balance, etc, or it is an inner ear infection caused by the dreaded pasteurella bacteria. He gave her an anti-inflammatory injection and a course of wide-spectrum antibiotics (Baytril - enrofloxacin) to be given twice daily, in case it is an infection, but he did not see any signs of an ear infection when he examined her, and she has not been scratching or rubbing at her ears. She is also taking ibuprofen for inflammation and any pain she may be experiencing, but she does not appear to be in any pain at this point. He said it won't hurt, and may help, since we don't know if she is hurting or not. A few years ago, we lost another of our buns, Zeus, to a nasty abcess caused by pasteurella, even after having the abcess removed and following up with a diligent antibiotic and would-cleaning routine. So either way I am petrified that we will lose her. He said that if it is an infection and not a tumour, we would see some signs of improvement in 24-48 hours, but it would probably take a much longer course of antibiotics before she was totally recovered. If it is a tumour, she is not in any pain right now but as it grows it will put more pressure on her brain and we will have to have her put to sleep to avoid having her suffer... it is a very sad day... So far she seems to be eating and drinking ok (hay and greens only... she has had two bites of pellets, but that is all) and is peeing/pooping ok too. Seems to be in good spirits, for the most part, but I can't help but think that she must feel awful... we all know what it feels like to be sea-sick, or a little too tipsy, and not able to get your bearings... poor hoppie!
we'll just have to see how it goes, I suppose... i set her up in a quiet part in our bedroom, in a makeshift 'pen' beside my bed with rolled up towels as bumpers so she can lean against them and won't hurt herself if she falls. So she won't feel alone, we bring her out into the living room in the day so she can see and smell the other buns and feel like part of the family. If anyone has any other tips about how to make her comfortable, they would be greatly appreciated.
many thanks,
Lisa
oh, and yes, the vet is 'rabbit savvy', we have brought all of our buns here for many years and they always give us the utmost in care and treatment...
Nona - 29 Jan 2008 04:54 GMT I'm so glad you were able to take her to the vet.
I hope we hear that she is feeling better in a day or two!
It sounds as if you are giving her loving care. I'm sure she appreciates it.
Hand feed her and stroke the bridge of her nose and her cheeks, if she likes that.
Nona
Beth Aylward - 29 Jan 2008 07:43 GMT how could he say it is a tumour without xrays? head tilt does alot of nasty things to a bun.. let's hope for infection.
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pugnose - 29 Jan 2008 14:50 GMT How about an x-ray? I so hope the antibiodics work for her and she starts to improve as he said in the next couple of days. Is Chicken still bonded with her? Does she help her. Still sending healing vibes for Hoppie. Also, Ronie on apr has had several disabled buns and could probably give you some advice on how to keep her comfortable. Carla Liza and Jodie.
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Beth Aylward - 29 Jan 2008 07:46 GMT have you been to www.rabbit.org ?
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