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Pet Forum / Mammals / Rabbits / April 2008Rabbit + Rabbitess = only 2 rabbits ???
Hi bunnylovers! It's friday evening here and the end of Tussis "term". She really had us all for a laugh. No miniature bunnys in sight! I was so sure she was pregnant. She followed the signs to the letter. No miniature bunnys have appeared however. She had the mood swings. She rearrenged her cage. She built a nest. She lined it with fuzzy fur. This is very disappointing. So... Tommy is visiting again this sunday! Wish us luck :) (Apparantly bunnys need luck, who would have thought it!) Kyrre how many days is it now? It can take up to 34-36 days. Please leave her be a little longer, before introducing Tmmy again. Els  Signaturehttp://elsewhere1.myphotoalbum.com/albums.php http://www.123video.nl/video.asp?View=User&User=724854&UserName=Elsewhere > Hi bunnylovers! > [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > > Kyrre Given all the extra bunnies in need of good homes, why would you intentionally breed them? --Fromper Hi Kyrre, I agree with Els, I would wait a bit. Yes, females do have false pregnancies, but it won't hurt to wait and be sure. If she is pregnant, she will tear Timmy to shreds! Just a note, it is always best to bring the female to the male than the other way round. Females are so much more territorial, so there is a higher risk of your boy bun getting injured if she attacks him. If you bring her to him, there is usually less aggression. SignatureGod Bless, Arlette, Cocoa & Brownie in heaven (See us here) http://www.flickr.com/photos/11393346@N02/ Need a vet? Click here <http://www.rabbitvet.net> For Cocoa's body sling vids Click here <http://www.youtube.com/profile?user=cocoa3c> Hmm. Thanks for the tip. I think we will wait a bit longer. It has been 35 days today. Kyrre > Hi Kyrre, > I agree with Els, I would wait a bit. Yes, females do have false [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > higher risk of your boy bun getting injured if she attacks him. If you > bring her to him, there is usually less aggression. Don't breed or buy while shelter animals die. Ronie On Apr 18, 8:26 pm, roniebu...@aol.com wrote: > Don't breed or buy while shelter animals die. > > Ronie Yup, that was pretty much my point. --Fromper > On Apr 18, 8:26 pm, roniebu...@aol.com wrote: > [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > --Fromper While you can sub a shelter animal there is no way to experience the birth to 8 weeks unless you breed or know a breeder. Our reasons: - Tussi is a Lionrabbit. - Tommy is a Lionrabbit with 4+ generations pedigree. - I want a Lionrabbit - Tommys owner wants the litter (so I have to steal one...) The local pet rescue is doing a great job though and they only put down rabbits with special problems or other reasons where the rabbits are suffering. Their numbers for 2005 show they found new homes for 45 rabbits, had 17 in care and had to put down 7. Not horrible numbers. They currently have 22 rabbits, of which 14 are pairs and not situated in any shelter. Instead they are being cared for and housed by voulenteers. Remaining are 6 from the same litter and 2 singles that also have temporary homes. None are Lionrabbits or I would have taken them at once. They have an overweight of white rabbits and I am sorry to say theese are the hardest to find permanent homes for in Norway. Maby they are too plain? Anyway, we will see what happens. Tussi will get some more rest and we will see if she get's back to normal in the snuggling department. I find it very odd that her false pregnancy manifestet so by-the-book. Kyrre > On Apr 18, 8:26 pm, roniebu...@aol.com wrote: >> Don't breed or buy while shelter animals die. [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > --Fromper > Our reasons: > Anyway, we will see what happens. Tussi will get some more rest and we will > see if she get's back to normal in the snuggling department. I find it very > odd that her false pregnancy manifestet so by-the-book. > > Kyrre You might say it's by-the-book false pregnancy. Did the male scream and fall off the female during mating? It's possible last time there was just a lot of humping without actual mating. Maybe you can let them mate several times to make sure she gets pregnant. I think you can mate them for 2 days but not after because it may cause problems. > You might say it's by-the-book false pregnancy. Did the male scream > and fall off the female during mating? It's possible last time there > was just a lot of humping without actual mating. Maybe you can let > them mate several times to make sure she gets pregnant. I think you > can mate them for 2 days but not after because it may cause problems. The male may have finished, but that doesn't mean he was actually inside where he needs to be. False pregnancy is a very strong possibility, since rabbits are induced ovulators. If her hormones and ovulation is stimulated, but no fertilization, her body may very well think it's pregnant even when not. still unsure if i agree with this. but Norway is a different country and doesn't seem to have the overpopulation per your numbers like we have here in the US Ronie they tend to get alot of lionheads in georgia hrs.. i got a beautiful one thorugh them. that could be an option if you need to. i am more than happy to transport one part way.. might even be going to florida in the near future.. keep it in mind... beth and her cute little fuzzbutts, :) http://community.webtv.net/jerseybunny/bethsabsolutely http://community.webtv.net/jerseybunny/thatcatsurehaslong http://community.webtv.net/jerseybunny/FUZZYBUTTS Beth, I think the cost of transportation might be pretty costly...Kyrre lives in Norway :) SignatureGod Bless, Arlette, Cocoa & Brownie in heaven (See us here) http://www.flickr.com/photos/11393346@N02/ Need a vet? Click here <http://www.rabbitvet.net> For Cocoa's body sling vids Click here <http://www.youtube.com/profile?user=cocoa3c> oh arlette, i swore he said he was in florida. must be mixing up here. beth and her cute little fuzzbutts, :) http://community.webtv.net/jerseybunny/bethsabsolutely http://community.webtv.net/jerseybunny/thatcatsurehaslong http://community.webtv.net/jerseybunny/FUZZYBUTTS sending baby bunny vibes your way(((((((((baby bunnies))))))))) sorry for your disappointment. hugs and fingers crossed for luck deb,joe(zoe,tabitha&tiffany) > Hi bunnylovers! > [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > > Kyrre I Don't like the notion that anyone could think white rabbits are plain; I have my Zoe who is white, and she means more to me than anything in the world; sad to know all these white buns don't have forever homes :( :( :( Debbie,Joe(zoe,tabitha,tiffany) "all buns are beautiful " > Hi bunnylovers! > [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > > Kyrre > I Don't like the notion that anyone could think white rabbits are plain; I > have my Zoe who is white, and she means more to me than anything in the > world; sad to know all these white buns don't have forever homes :( > :( :( > Debbie,Joe(zoe,tabitha,tiffany) > "all buns are beautiful " Agreed, even though I've never had a "plain" white bunny myself. I still think intentionally breeding them is wrong. And I'm the one in Florida, which may be why Beth got confused. --Fromper > > I Don't like the notion that anyone could think white rabbits are plain; I > > have my Zoe who is white, and she means more to me than anything in the [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > > --Fromper If noone intentionally breed rabbits none of us would have a pet rabbit. > > > I Don't like the notion that anyone could think white rabbits are plain; I > > > have my Zoe who is white, and she means more to me than anything in the [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > If noone intentionally breed rabbits none of us would have a pet > rabbit. And if no one intentionally bred rabbits, thousands of bunnies wouldn't be put to death in shelters every year, or left to die in the wild with no clue how to survive when first time rabbit owners decide they don't want to keep their "Easter bunny" after all. That's how I suspect Flash came to live with me. He's just lucky he was found by someone who knows rabbits well enough to give him a good home. Thousands of others won't be so lucky. As far as I'm concerned, intentionally breeding any animal that isn't an endangered species is just wrong. Nobody should do it. Ever. And don't even bother responding with comments about breeding animals for food. If you think it's acceptable to breed cows, pigs, lambs, turkeys, and chickens just to torture and kill them, think about the fact that some people breed rabbits for food. And yes, the vast majority of food animals are physically tortured for much of their lives. The small, family farms where the animals roam free until it's their time to die are a thing of the past. I'm a vegetarian because I won't participate in such cruelty to any species. --Fromper You'd love one of the shelters rabbits. His name is "Lars Monsen" after the quite well known outdoors person and TV host Lars Monsen. Basically, Lars Monsen has about as many funny sayings around him as Chuck Norris. (When a tree falls in the woods, it's either gravity or Lars Monsen. If it's gravity it's because Lars was lazy and let nature do the job this time.) Anyway, the bunny Lars lived outdoors for over a year before somebody managed to catch him. Now he's tame and adopted. He was very easy to adopt as he has a beautiful face. http://www.dooa.no/admin/images/42636216226210475571.jpg Another from-the-wild rabbit is Darling. http://www.dooa.no/admin/images/999996664121120325212.jpg Caught after over 6 months in the wild. Kyrre >> > > I Don't like the notion that anyone could think white rabbits are >> > > plain; I [quoted text clipped - 36 lines] > > --Fromper > > > > I Don't like the notion that anyone could think white rabbits are plain; I > > > > have my Zoe who is white, and she means more to me than anything in the [quoted text clipped - 36 lines] > > - Show quoted text - Rabbits are really smarter than you think. The danger of rabbit dumping is not that it won't survive but that someone else dumping another rabbit of the opposite sex in the same area. The danger to the rabbit is that some well-meaning sole catches it and brings it to the shelter where it probably gets the death sentence. > > > > > I Don't like the notion that anyone could think white rabbits are plain; I > > > > > have my Zoe who is white, and she means more to me than anything in the [quoted text clipped - 40 lines] > the rabbit is that some well-meaning sole catches it and brings it to > the shelter where it probably gets the death sentence. Talk about missing the point. Ok, so in some areas there's enough edible vegetation for some of the dumped bunnies to survive in the wild. That's not the case where I live. That doesn't change the fact that for every rabbit that's intentionally bred and sold as a pet, one more rabbit doesn't get adopted from a shelter and will likely die there. --Fromper fromper. james has never had an inside rabbit, and thinks we are all men for doing so. do not take anything he says as fact. outdoor rabbits have a much shorter life because of predators, weather etc. we all know better.. not to mention car etc.. so sad... beth and her cute little fuzzbutts, :) http://community.webtv.net/jerseybunny/bethsabsolutely http://community.webtv.net/jerseybunny/thatcatsurehaslong http://community.webtv.net/jerseybunny/FUZZYBUTTS >>Rabbits are really smarter than you think. The danger of rabbit dumping is not that it won't survive but that someone else dumping another rabbit of the opposite sex in the same area. The danger to the rabbit is that some well-meaning sole catches it and brings it to the shelter where it probably gets the death sentence.<< The rabbits that we have as pets are neither the same species nor even the same genus as the wild rabbits in the United States. The only native burrow digger is the pygmy rabbit. The European rabbit (our domestics) needs to live in a community that will excavate a warren, mostly done by nesting females. The warren protects them from predators to some degree and from extremes of temperature, particularly heat - with which the European rabbit doesn't do well. Many domestics have striking color coats, beautiful to us but very poor camouflage against predators. Domestics don't have survival instincts that are as keen as our native rabbits, due both to breeding and the fact this isn't the area they evolved in. Dumped in sufficient numbers, some will survive to create a community. Many won't. OTOH, the local sheter here, at least, seems to place virtually all their rabbits. In fact, I've never seen one that didn't end up being adopted, but I imagine there must have been some. Sue & buns also, i am not meaning to be insensitive. but, james... you know butterball got hit by a car. how you can stand there and say there is no real problems for dumped rabbits is beyond me. they can't survive out there. the odds are very against them. very.. rest poor butterball's sweet soul.. no more on this.. just could not let that rest while you are encouraging inocent people new in here to dump and have outdoor buns with no worries... beth and her cute little fuzzbutts, :) http://community.webtv.net/jerseybunny/bethsabsolutely http://community.webtv.net/jerseybunny/thatcatsurehaslong http://community.webtv.net/jerseybunny/FUZZYBUTTS Yeah, I'm pretty sure Flash wouldn't have survived long enough to die of starvation if I hadn't picked him up. He was already starting to wander into the street. I'm just glad I happened to come home from the supermarket at the right time to see him outside my building, and that I happened to have carrots in my grocery bag that I could use to lure him to me. --Fromper Nice. Always carry a carrot :) Kyrre > Yeah, I'm pretty sure Flash wouldn't have survived long enough to die > of starvation if I hadn't picked him up. He was already starting to [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > --Fromper |
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