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Meghan - 17 Sep 2004 15:12 GMT
My two young boys don't mark anything yet, and Hailey my older female
doesn't either.  But Maggie, my 1-year old hairless girl is a marking
maniac.  She marks everything, especially me, over and over.  Is this a
behavior only done in new surroundings, when they're nervous, or is it just
a habit that will never go away?  Unfortunately I really have to limit where
Maggie goes during out time because of it.  I mean there are little drops
EVERYWHERE.  She never, ever actually pees anywhere though.

Meghan
Sara - 17 Sep 2004 22:33 GMT
> My two young boys don't mark anything yet, and Hailey my older female
> doesn't either.  But Maggie, my 1-year old hairless girl is a marking
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> Meghan

I have the same problem but I don't fret about it. I think she is just
trying to mark her territory since you have more than one rat. I have
two and my older one never did that until the new one came.

Sara
J&S Bouchard - 18 Sep 2004 02:00 GMT
> My two young boys don't mark anything yet, and Hailey my older female
> doesn't either.  But Maggie, my 1-year old hairless girl is a marking
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> Meghan

Yep, some rats just like to mark everything. Marking you is a very sweet
sign, you belong to her. ;)
I don't care about the pee marking... my rats can do what they want. lol
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Anti_Freak_Machine - 18 Sep 2004 10:42 GMT
> My two young boys don't mark anything yet, and Hailey my older female
> doesn't either.  

Wait.  Some 'mark' more than others, but they all mark.

> But Maggie, my 1-year old hairless girl is a marking
> maniac.  She marks everything, especially me, over and over.  Is this a
> behavior only done in new surroundings, when they're nervous, or is it just
> a habit that will never go away?  

All of the above.  Consider it a sign of affection that they do when
nervous/excited and a natural reaction.  Since rats have poor eyesight
(but remarkable memories) they use scent as a way to 'remember' things.

> Unfortunately I really have to limit where
> Maggie goes during out time because of it.  

3 words- old bed sheet.  Throw one down in their play area and let
her/them mark all day, toss it in the wash (sans ratties), and it's all
good. :)

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J&S Bouchard - 18 Sep 2004 15:08 GMT
> > My two young boys don't mark anything yet, and Hailey my older female
> > doesn't either.
>
> Wait.  Some 'mark' more than others, but they all mark.

I thought so too... but my hairless male does not mark at all. Which I find
very odd.
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Anti_Freak_Machine - 19 Sep 2004 10:29 GMT
> I thought so too... but my hairless male does not mark at all. Which I find
> very odd.

Very odd indeed.  Especially for a male. Is he mature? Perhaps he just
marks certain areas (like in his cage only).

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J&S Bouchard - 19 Sep 2004 15:07 GMT
> > I thought so too... but my hairless male does not mark at all. Which I find
> > very odd.
>
> Very odd indeed.  Especially for a male. Is he mature? Perhaps he just
> marks certain areas (like in his cage only).

He's 14 months old and he may very well mark in his cage, but I must say I
often find him using the litter pan.

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Meghan - 18 Sep 2004 18:08 GMT
What interesting little fuzzy creatures!  I am honored now to know that
marking me is a sign of "ownership".  I thought she just got nervous every
time she ran across my arm.  Now that I think about it, she does come
running when I call her name, or when I come into the room.  It's so
rewarding when your patient weeks of letting them get to know you (and like
you) finally pay off!  :-)

Meghan

> My two young boys don't mark anything yet, and Hailey my older female
> doesn't either.  But Maggie, my 1-year old hairless girl is a marking
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> Meghan
Geezer - 18 Sep 2004 18:27 GMT
Rats are the only pets I know of who's owners say things like "Look! She
peed on me! Aww!" lol

I get my share of mysterieous little drops on me too. Fortunately it seems
to be tapering off.

Geezer

> What interesting little fuzzy creatures!  I am honored now to know that
> marking me is a sign of "ownership".  I thought she just got nervous every
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>> Meghan
paghat - 18 Sep 2004 19:21 GMT
> Rats are the only pets I know of who's owners say things like "Look! She
> peed on me! Aww!" lol
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> Geezer

They do it for three reasons: To mark territory, to mark paths so they can
find their way home, & to mark family members or loved ones. Occasionally
marking becomes kind of spastic & annoying; they overdo it when they feel
worried about life.

For females a little dab will generally be plenty, but males sometimes
drag their behinds all along an arm or pantleg to mark you good & well
with a long streak of pee as proof you are His and His Alone. The cleaner
you start your day, the more UNmarked you smell to a rat, so they
especially love to mark all over someone who doesn't seem to be properly
marked.

They do it less if you already smell proper to their senses. Sometimes
having a special "rat shirt" to wear for the rats, one that isn't cleaned
too often, limits how much marking they feel they have to do.  But a
healthy rat's urine is usually close to odorless by our own senses, & not
injurious when fresh. It only smells bad when it gets stale & bacteria
start growing in it; the amonia smell is bacterial waste. Average human
hygiene usually means there's no worrisome risk to being marked by a
ratty.

-paghat the ratgirl

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Lisa  Goodman Counts - 25 Sep 2004 03:28 GMT
I always wondered why one of my fellas would walk by my hand but one of the
back legs would always stop on my hand and when he was done marking would
walk away.  I attributed it to him wanting to mark me as his own -it's nice
to have confirmation!  How fun!  You know, it is only rat owners that get
excited when peed on -my husband gets quite a kick when I say, "Oh look
honey, he's pooping in the litter box!  What a good little boy!"

-Lisa
the rat whisperer
J&S Bouchard - 25 Sep 2004 05:54 GMT
> I always wondered why one of my fellas would walk by my hand but one of the
> back legs would always stop on my hand and when he was done marking would
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> -Lisa
> the rat whisperer

And what a wonderful moment it is when you spot rattie using the litter pan.
It just makes me so proud.
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