Allergic to male rats only?
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carrie cormac - 26 Oct 2004 20:35 GMT Hi to all, and thanks for all the advice I've gotten from here. I'm fairly new to rats, I got a little girl last Christmas (from Petco) and loved her to death - I guess literally. When she died of myco back in April I contacted a breeder and finally got three little boys in July.
However, from the time I've gotten these boys I have had terrible allergies, which I never had with my girl. And any time I hold any of them, my arms break out in little blisters, and the skin gets really itchy. It goes away after about 15 minutes. I *never* experienced this with my girl, and would never have thought such a thing possible. I'm not allergic to anything - I am not even sensitive to poison ivy. So now I have asthma, allergies, and this skin thing. I do plan on keeping them, I can't imagine giving them away. They get plenty of love from me despite the rash it gives me. Long sleeved shirts work wonders.
So has anyone heard of this happening? Do males have something in their urine or saliva that females don't? I do have one boy - a great big Siamese rat - who I believe I am more sensitive to than the others. Is it possible I'm only allergic to him, and he rubs off on the others? But my guess is there's something sinister in boy pee that's not in girl pee!!
Thanks for any insight you guys might have!
carrie
J&S Bouchard - 26 Oct 2004 20:59 GMT > Hi to all, and thanks for all the advice I've gotten from here. I'm > fairly new to rats, I got a little girl last Christmas (from Petco) and [quoted text clipped - 20 lines] > > carrie Carrie, you are not alone. Many people are allergic to boys and not the girls. I think it's in the urine. Have you tried a new drug called Singular? It works great for breathing problems. Yes, I'm allergic to my rats. But there's no way I would be without them. ;)
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carrie cormac - 27 Oct 2004 00:46 GMT >> Hi to all, and thanks for all the advice I've gotten from here. I'm >> fairly new to rats, I got a little girl last Christmas (from Petco) and [quoted text clipped - 26 lines] > problems. Yes, I'm allergic to my rats. But there's no way I would be > without them. ;) Thanks for the quick response - and it's good to know other people are crazy enough to live with allergies for a rat! I've had some friends get angry with me for not getting rid of them.
My doctor has me on Flovent now, another inhaled steroid. I started on Advair but that did nothing for me. I will mention the Singulair to her - I go back in a couple of weeks, and I just saw the commercial last night. Thanks again!
cc (mom to calvin, grover, and baby)
Mariette - 27 Oct 2004 03:31 GMT >>> Hi to all, and thanks for all the advice I've gotten from here. I'm >>> fairly new to rats, I got a little girl last Christmas (from Petco) and [quoted text clipped - 38 lines] >cc >(mom to calvin, grover, and baby) Another allergy sufferer here. We find that bathing ours in Allergroom shampoo does help a bit (which may be found at pet supply stores, or online ... see link below). And for a topical remedy for the skin welts, a little hydrocortisone cream helps speed up the disappearance and decrease the itchiness of those.
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Dave Ryman - 27 Oct 2004 15:44 GMT >>> Hi to all, and thanks for all the advice I've gotten from here. I'm >>> fairly new to rats, I got a little girl last Christmas (from Petco) [quoted text clipped - 40 lines] > cc > (mom to calvin, grover, and baby) I'm surprised that you can be so violently allergic to one specific allergen. Some people are very allergic to one thing (eg: Cats), but you're showing these problems from just an additional chemical present from Male rats.
I'm not disputing that this is the case at all, but am suggesting that you have just started with an allergic response you were doomed to anyway - allergies are funny things: People find that allergies sometimes come- and-go over their lifetime, and no two people seem to be the same. So, you might have been about to develop these problems about now anyway.
There's only one way to be sure - have the rats stay at a friends for a week, and see if your symptoms clear (clean the room they were in thoroughly before the start of your trial week). The other thing to try is to find friends with female rats, male or female cats, dogs etc... and see if you have a response to them, too. Knowing if you are only allergic to male rats, or that you now show a response to all mammals, will be vital information for you. Maybe later experiments could try and narrow it down to fur or urine - for example, washing the rats every other day, or cleaning out and washing the cage down every day may help - according to whether it's the rats themselves or the urine which is the problem. IF YOU EXPERIMENT WITH OTHER PEOPLES PETS, PLEASE BE VERY VERY CAREFUL.
Final word: Asthma is potentially a very serious condition: Indeed, in some cases it can be fatal. Make absolutely sure that your asthma is under control with the drugs provided to you: If it's not, then you really do have to rethink your position on keeping your rats - sorry, but I think your health has to come first. Even if it is totally under control, you still have some issues: Steroid inhalers are great news for Asthma sufferers where the allergens cannot be avoided - indeed, they save lifes, and can prevent the later onset of Emphysema. However, if you can stop the Asthma by the removal of a simple factor like male rats, then you are still risking your health for their sake. To start with, your Asthma may get worse, and fail to respond to your current dose-rate, and in addition to this, you are going to be feeding your system with steroids every day.
Good luck in the land of the wheezing (I've been living there for 34 years!).
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Flattop Flincher - 27 Oct 2004 17:21 GMT >>>> Hi to all, and thanks for all the advice I've gotten from here. I'm >>>> fairly new to rats, I got a little girl last Christmas (from Petco) [quoted text clipped - 80 lines] > Good luck in the land of the wheezing (I've been living there for 34 > years!). Thanks, Dave. I guess I should have mentioned I've got a male and a female cat, and my boyfriend has a cat and dog. I really can't say with any certainty that the rats are the ONLY thing I'm now allergic to. It may have just started with them. Asthma is one of the scariest things I've ever dealt with. Being without the inhaler when you're having an asthma attack is terrifying. If there's a chance this can worsen, or lead to permanent emphysema I really do need to reconsider whether I can keep them. I know I won't get more males when these boys are, sadly, gone. I can live with a minor inconvenience, but the feeling of not being able to breathe is not something I want to worsen.
I always needled my sister who has allergies and would joke with her, "oh please - allergies are for the weak." :-) Guess the joke's on me now!
Thanks again for the info.
carrie
wotsitgizmo - 27 Oct 2004 01:12 GMT > Hi to all, and thanks for all the advice I've gotten from here. I'm > fairly new to rats, I got a little girl last Christmas (from Petco) and [quoted text clipped - 20 lines] > > carrie I developed an allergy to one of my boys a few months ago. I had no reaction for the first year I had him, but then he got ill and my allergy started. i had the same symptoms as you, my asthma would flare up and whenever he touched me, I would come up in itchy welts(?spelling?) and was sneezing all the time. Luckily my GP gave me a new inhaler and some antihistamines which work wonders. To start with I was only allergic to him and not his brothers, but a few weeks ago, I developed an allergy to them as well. I'm fine with my girls though. I've got used to the itching now and I cant imagine being without my boys.
Tracey - 27 Oct 2004 16:26 GMT > Hi to all, and thanks for all the advice I've gotten from here. I'm fairly > new to rats, I got a little girl last Christmas (from Petco) and loved her [quoted text clipped - 20 lines] > > carrie I take anti-histamines and a steroid spray for my allergies (I have many!) which keep the sneezing, runny nose, wheeziness etc under control nicely, but do nothing for the itchiness I get when scratched by little rat nails. I think it's the urine under their nails that irritates the skin. I'll itch for about ten mins, so not long, hence it's something I just put up with. If it's really bad I put some 'Witch Doctor' on which soothes the soreness and itching.
Tracey
Meghan - 27 Oct 2004 23:44 GMT Just thought I'd add to this thread that I was diagnosed with animal allergies three years ago. Went to the allergist and had the skin test etc. which came back with an allergy to cats and dogs. Since they didn't do the "rat test" I wasn't diagnosed with it but I'm sure I would have been. I get the same skin reaction when their nails get on my skin etc.
Of course, having 5 cats, 3 rats and 2 mice my allergist thinks I'm insane and spent a great deal of time trying to convince me to get rid of SOME of my pets (um, how am I supposed to choose which ones???) but luckily for me my allergies aren't severe enough to cause a threat to my health. Just annoying symptoms. I mainly wear turtlenecks when handling the ratties and try not to let the cats get too fiesty with their claws. So, you're not alone! :-)
Meghan
> Hi to all, and thanks for all the advice I've gotten from here. I'm fairly > new to rats, I got a little girl last Christmas (from Petco) and loved her [quoted text clipped - 20 lines] > > carrie Flattop Flincher - 28 Oct 2004 17:08 GMT > Just thought I'd add to this thread that I was diagnosed with animal > allergies three years ago. Went to the allergist and had the skin test [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > > Meghan That's wild! I was wondering if allergists would test you for rat allergies. I'd love to go get the skin test done just out of curiosity. Maybe I could bring rat pee and they could use that. :-) Sorry to hear you have the allergies too!
carrie (posting from someone else's computer)
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