Maggie had her surgery yesterday and is now a spayed woman. She came
through just fine and everyone at the vets said she was a great rat.
(pride). While she was under anesthetic the vet also took a small biopsy of
the growth under her right arm, which turned out to have a milky substance
in it, so he wasn't sure if it was a blocked milk duct or a tumor. I should
know the results of the biopsy within a couple of weeks. Maggie is back to
eating and drinking and eliminating just fine.
She's a little slowed down but resting well in a little recovery tank with
lots of comfy towels and tissues. The vet said she would still smell like a
female to the boys for up to 30 days, so the introduction may go slower than
I expected after the 10 day recovery.
I didn't end up taking Jacques with me (even though everyone here
recommended I should) because I was just so afraid of him getting a relapse
of his respiratory illness. It was only 30 degrees here yesterday (below
freezing) and he would have been in the car (with us going in and out of
it ) all day. I decided to wait a day and see how he was doing. His foot
is now the same temperature as the other (it had been warmer) and he's using
it more. His energy is high and he romps and plays with Pierre, climbs the
walls of the cage. There is still some swelling, but less so. If it's not
healed up by tomorrow I will call the vet that's only 1 1/2 hours away and
take him there (as opposed to 4 hours). I don't know why that closer vet
won't do rat operations but... who knows?? The one Maggie went to yesterday
was superb!
Thanks everyone for your recommendations and I will be getting more pics up
of everyone soon. I was surprised to see that after Maggie's spay
yesterday, her insides were all displaced and so her sides looked VERY
concave. It looked like she lost a ton of weight in 3 hours. Hopefully she
will even back out soon.
Meghan
> Maggie had her surgery yesterday and is now a spayed woman. She came
> through just fine and everyone at the vets said she was a great rat.
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> Meghan
I'm so glad all went well. Sweet Maggie should soon recover quite well, just
give her about a week to become her full self again.
Funny you should mention the milky tumor. My sister's rat Irene had a tumor
removed yesterday and wouldn't you know it, there was a sac of milk attached
to a small tumor. Irene had been spayed 6 months ago. Out of the 12 girls my
sister had spayed, she's the only one that had a tumor recur and with
milk... go figure.
You most likely did the best decision for Jacques. You are a great rat mom
and only you will truly know if Jacques needed immediate vet care or not. If
the swelling has gone down and it's not any warmer, then it was probably a
sprain or a bruise. If Jacques stops using it again, I would recommend
putting him in a one level home for at least 3 days. No hammocks, no boxes,
you don't want him to move. You will essentially be forcing him to rest the
leg, which is probably all that he needs.
Maggie's heavy breathing is normal after such a hard procedure, she will
need to sleep a lot. Try offering her soymilk, this usually gives them
energy.
Here's hoping for a fast recovery!!

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Kelly - 27 Oct 2004 20:39 GMT
Megan,
I'm happy to hear Maggie is recovering and everything went good.
Now just a question for you Joanne, instead of just taking a biopsy..
wouldn't it have been beneficial to have Maggie's tumour removed while she
was under anesthetic anyway? That way if it DOES happen to be a cancerous
tumour, she won't have to be put under the anesthetic AGAIN for a second
surgery. Even if it isn't cancerous, I don't see the harm in removing it
because it may be something that could increase the risk in that area (even
if it was just a blocked milk duct, in all likelyhood it will cause problems
in the future). They would have had to cut into her skin to get the biopsy
anyway, so why not cut a little deeper and take it out?
I'm not sure because I'm not an expert, but I'm just curious.
Kelly
>> Maggie had her surgery yesterday and is now a spayed woman. She came
>> through just fine and everyone at the vets said she was a great rat.
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> energy.
> Here's hoping for a fast recovery!!
J&S Bouchard - 27 Oct 2004 20:46 GMT
> Megan,
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> Kelly
I know that my vet would have removed it immediately. Regardless if it's
cancer or not, it should be removed because at some point the tumor will
grow and she will need another operation if Megan chooses to have it
removed.
It is most likely not cancer. Cancer is not common in mammary tumors. The
fact that it had milk, it is most likely a benign mammary tumor which will
keep growing. Perhaps growing at a slower rate because she is spayed now.

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Meghan - 27 Oct 2004 23:37 GMT
You know, that is an interesting question, but if it is a tumor, it surely
didn't look or feel like one yet. I mean, aside from that pea-sized amount
of soft milk under her skin (which is now gone) there was nothing there - no
lump or anything. So I'm not sure if it was just strange cells that the vet
removed (she does have a closed incision where the milk spot was) but when I
talk with him tomorrow (he was out today) I will definitely ask. Of course,
if it grows into anything after this I will definitely have it removed.
Meghan
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> fact that it had milk, it is most likely a benign mammary tumor which will
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J&S Bouchard - 28 Oct 2004 01:39 GMT
> You know, that is an interesting question, but if it is a tumor, it surely
> didn't look or feel like one yet. I mean, aside from that pea-sized
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> Meghan
Was there a lump before? Mmm... maybe it's just something he noticed during
surgery. Very interesting to see if it turns into something.

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> Maggie had her surgery yesterday and is now a spayed woman. She came
> through just fine and everyone at the vets said she was a great rat.
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> Meghan
Good to hear all went well. Hope Jacques foot heals up ok.
Tracey