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Xmas Dinner for Ratties...:)

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Kate - 16 Dec 2004 18:58 GMT
Last night we hit the Supermarket to do the Xmas Dinner shopping.  We were
standing in the aisle discussing the best fish for Xmas Dinner..."Tuna?"...
"yuk, I hate the sight of it",.... "Ok here is a real treat, Sardines in
Tomato Sauce, that will go down well, what a treat for Xmas". It took me a
minute to realise that an old guy standing a little further along the aisle
was looking at me and the Kids like Fish was all we could afford for our OWN
Xmas Dinner....LOL.  I explained it was actually for our Rats ... I think he
actually went away feeling even more baffled.  It made my day.  So the guys
are having Sardines in Sauce..(Puke) I bought a bag of Nuts in the Shell
they will each get to choose one ... I bought asparagus spears (someone else
will have to feed them that)...and then they will also get a helping of
whatever we are having...LOL.  No Plum Pud sadly as it usually lays my
Father out for the rest of the day, I'd hate to think what it would do to
them..:)

Scritches and well wishes to the not so well Ratties at the moment, may they
all be on the mend soon ...

Kind regards Kate

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Mariette - 16 Dec 2004 21:55 GMT
>Last night we hit the Supermarket to do the Xmas Dinner shopping.  We were
>standing in the aisle discussing the best fish for Xmas Dinner..."Tuna?"...
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>
>Kind regards Kate

Hehe.  Great story.  I've just come to calling them "pets" in a lot of
circumstances (I don't know how the pharmacist would have felt
recently about running all over the store with us looking for
pediatric Imodium if I'd told her it was for our rats).  Now I've
certainly done my fair share of public rat advocation/education ...
sometimes it just seems easier to leave it a little more "generic,"
is all.  

Hey, how about sardines in mustard?  I just love those on a cracker,
with a little hot sauce (oh dear, I can just hear poor Kate trying to
choke back a gag reaction now).  ;)

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J&S Bouchard - 17 Dec 2004 19:35 GMT
> Hehe.  Great story.  I've just come to calling them "pets" in a lot of
> circumstances (I don't know how the pharmacist would have felt
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> with a little hot sauce (oh dear, I can just hear poor Kate trying to
> choke back a gag reaction now).  ;)

Ick, not just Kate... lol
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Mariette - 18 Dec 2004 23:35 GMT
>> Hehe.  Great story.  I've just come to calling them "pets" in a lot of
>> circumstances (I don't know how the pharmacist would have felt
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>
>Ick, not just Kate... lol

Sorry, Joanne.  But now you can go and tell me about how much you love
brussel sprouts or cauliflower to pay me back.  ;)

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Joanne - 19 Dec 2004 00:00 GMT
>>> Hehe.  Great story.  I've just come to calling them "pets" in a lot of
>>> circumstances (I don't know how the pharmacist would have felt
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> Sorry, Joanne.  But now you can go and tell me about how much you love
> brussel sprouts or cauliflower to pay me back.  ;)

lol... not brussel sprouts... and I won't go out of my way for cauliflower
either. ick ;)
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Mariette - 19 Dec 2004 01:10 GMT
>>>> Hehe.  Great story.  I've just come to calling them "pets" in a lot of
>>>> circumstances (I don't know how the pharmacist would have felt
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>lol... not brussel sprouts... and I won't go out of my way for cauliflower
>either. ick ;)

Hmmm.  Well then, I don't know *what* we can come up with for y'all
to pay me back then.  Even though I don't eat red meat, lamb, or pork
anymore (and hardly any fowl, either), that's not because I don't like
the taste of them.  I guess I'm pretty eclectic taste-wise, generally.
Is there some weirdness that you really like the taste of that most
nobody else around you does?  

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Joanne - 19 Dec 2004 02:37 GMT
>>>>> Hehe.  Great story.  I've just come to calling them "pets" in a lot of
>>>>> circumstances (I don't know how the pharmacist would have felt
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> Is there some weirdness that you really like the taste of that most
> nobody else around you does?

Mmm, what about blood sausage? heehee
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Mariette - 19 Dec 2004 03:08 GMT
>>>>>> Hehe.  Great story.  I've just come to calling them "pets" in a lot of
>>>>>> circumstances (I don't know how the pharmacist would have felt
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>
>Mmm, what about blood sausage? heehee

Never had it, but from the images I just saw of it on Google, I think
I can safely say:  blech, yuck, urgh (and even though I craved steak
like the carrier of some little alien baby when I was pregnant with my
kiddo, it had to be cooked at least medium rare).

Yep, I think we have a winner with that one ... Joanne has officially
grossed me out in return.  <g>

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Joanne - 19 Dec 2004 03:15 GMT
>>>>>>> Hehe.  Great story.  I've just come to calling them "pets" in a lot
>>>>>>> of
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> Yep, I think we have a winner with that one ... Joanne has officially
> grossed me out in return.  <g>

LOL!!
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Keith Schiffner - 19 Dec 2004 03:48 GMT
>>>>>>>> Hehe.  Great story.  I've just come to calling them
>>>>>>>> "pets" in a lot of
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>
> LOL!!

   I've read this whole thread with much amusement...you
haven't grossed me out yet. I haven't had blood sausage but
it sounds delicious. One of the few dishes I've yet to try
but I'd LOVE to is "Haggis" not some adulterated crap to
make the USDA happy but the REAL thing. May have to
slaughter my own sheep to have it...mmm and mutton stew for
afters!

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Mariette - 19 Dec 2004 08:27 GMT
>>>>>>>>> Hehe.  Great story.  I've just come to calling them
>>>>>>>>> "pets" in a lot of
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>slaughter my own sheep to have it...mmm and mutton stew for
>afters!

Oh my, you too have been bamboozled about what the "real thing"
is regarding haggis if you think sheep are involved.  Here offered
are two sites (though still somewhat conflicting) regarding such:
http://haggishunt.scotsman.com/haggisclopedia.cfm
http://www.robertthebruce.com/haggis.html

I have a lovely postcard that some friends who were once visiting
Scotland sent me, showing an artistic rendering of Haggi on a hill--
such charming little creatures (I tend to be of the "two legs shorter"
school, meaning that they can only run around the hill in one
clockwise direction, thus making them easier to capture since
they'll roll down the hill if they try to go the other way, and hence
why they're nearly extinct and so elusive.)  <g>  I'm sure that some
of our friends across the Pond could fill us in a little more on this.

Didn't some here find that their ratties quite enjoyed Durian fruit,
which is reputed to be one of the most "acquired taste" deals in the
world?  http://www.ecst.csuchico.edu/~durian

I'll have to go sometime to see if I can find some of that in the
speciality stores near me in Berkeley (where you can find simply
anything that's available anywhere else in the world, truly, if you
just know where to go for what you're looking for).

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Keith Schiffner - 19 Dec 2004 12:27 GMT
SNIP!!
Great GHU! that was getting a bit much, no really it was.

>>    I've read this whole thread with much amusement...you
>>haven't grossed me out yet. I haven't had blood sausage
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> http://haggishunt.scotsman.com/haggisclopedia.cfm
> http://www.robertthebruce.com/haggis.html

Ah, those scots and their sense of humour to get pour
tourists to try the highland cooking...

> I have a lovely postcard that some friends who were once
> visiting
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> of our friends across the Pond could fill us in a little
> more on this.

Ha! The haggii are evoolvied to survive the whole gamut of
scots territory! Why they can confuse their predators by
meerly standing in the bog...getting out is tricky but it's
a fine defense! Now you tell me (care for another wee dram?)
HOW can a creature as you opinion it. How can a creature
that can ounly circle a hill clockwise cross the moors
during the annual Dec 31 migration east? Hmm? Care for
another dram dear?

> Didn't some here find that their ratties quite enjoyed
> Durian fruit,
> which is reputed to be one of the most "acquired taste"
> deals in the
> world?  http://www.ecst.csuchico.edu/~durian

Hmm, being in the american version of the outback I doubt
mine will ever know.

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Mariette - 19 Dec 2004 18:38 GMT
>SNIP!!
>Great GHU! that was getting a bit much, no really it was.
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>during the annual Dec 31 migration east? Hmm? Care for
>another dram dear?

Hehe.  How did you know?  (Well, a working glass full of box o' wine,
anyway, speaking of disrespecting my insides).  <g>

Good question about the migration.  I can only assume that they must
pair up somehow, intertwining their shorter limbs (this would mean
that there would have to be clockwise and counterclockwise Haggi, of
course, which I really didn't know before), and hobble along together,
rather like being in a three-legged race?  Hmmm.  (And I haven't even
had a drop, much less a dram today, and came up with that.)

>> Didn't some here find that their ratties quite enjoyed
>> Durian fruit,
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>Hmm, being in the american version of the outback I doubt
>mine will ever know.

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Phil L - 19 Dec 2004 21:49 GMT
::     I've read this whole thread with much amusement...you
:: haven't grossed me out yet. I haven't had blood sausage but
:: it sounds delicious. One of the few dishes I've yet to try

'Blood pudding' and 'blood sausages' are made just down the road from me,
around here they're called black pudding, the black is from congealed blood,
they also contain lumps of fat (like the inner bit of pork rind) and
seasonings...we slice them like thick salami and grill or fry them with eggs
and bacon, I always put a dollop of English mustard (very hot) or ketchup on
mine but it's rare that we eat them....they are very filling and two small
slices are the most I can manage.

:: but I'd LOVE to is "Haggis" not some adulterated crap to
:: make the USDA happy but the REAL thing. May have to
:: slaughter my own sheep to have it...mmm and mutton stew for
:: afters!

Real haggis must be got from Scotland, I only live 200 miles away and we
can't get the proper stuff - I've just come back from a fishing trip up
there but didn't remember to pick any up like I did last time.
It's quite delicious but obviously some people don't like it because they
know what's in it - it has a weird texture and is crumbly like cake, but
rougher as it contains quite a lot of oats.
It's flavour is unique and is a bit peppery, but with other flavours and
spices distinctive too....the tourist type shops sell various flavours and
some with added whisky etc but these all seem a bit gimicky to me and so I
bought mine from a village butchers  - one of them was unsliced, IE: just an
elongated ball shape - I took it home, sliced it into burger sized slices
and then froze the lot, again it is very filling and you'd be hard pushed to
eat more than a couple of pieces with your meal.
Keith Schiffner - 19 Dec 2004 22:58 GMT
> ::     I've read this whole thread with much
> amusement...you
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> filling and two small
> slices are the most I can manage.

Oh, I know what they are made of...sadly the nannies in our
government wont allow it, weak stomach creatins that they
are.

> :: but I'd LOVE to is "Haggis" not some adulterated crap
> to
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> be hard pushed to
> eat more than a couple of pieces with your meal.

Ah, but Phil it's the spirit in which it is made that
matters. As long as the ingredients are correct what is to
complain aboot? ;^) Oh well at least we have the "Testicle
Festival" to look forward to every summer.

http://www.testyfesty.com/

Like Haggis it is an acquired taste but one that a person
should not deny themselves.

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Tracey - 20 Dec 2004 11:13 GMT
> Ah, but Phil it's the spirit in which it is made that
> matters. As long as the ingredients are correct what is to
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Think I can stand to deny myself!  Talking cattle and Scotland, my auntie's
just come back from a weekend in Edinburgh and brought me back a chocolate
cow-pat.  It's very authentic as it has raisins and bits of biscuit in so
looks very much like the real thing.  Have to say, it tastes better than it
looks.  My cousin (her daughter) bought me a cow a few Christmases ago that
pooed out jelly beans when you turned it's tail, lol.  I'm really NOT
obsessed by bodily functions, it's just that I have wacky relatives!

Tracey
Tracey - 20 Dec 2004 10:43 GMT
>     I've read this whole thread with much amusement...you
> haven't grossed me out yet. I haven't had blood sausage but
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Is blood sausage the same as black pudding?

Believe it or not they sell a vegetarian haggis at a local farm shop near
here.

The thing that grosses me out the most is lamb - I cannot even abide the
smell of it cooking, bleurgh!  Even when I used to eat meat I couldn't stand
it.  Oh and snails... they look so icky.  And celery - yuk!

Tracey
Kate - 21 Dec 2004 00:09 GMT
We call that kind of disgusting Blood Sausage.."Black and White
Pudding"...makes me want to chuck chunder for sure !!!

> >>>>>> Hehe.  Great story.  I've just come to calling them "pets" in a lot of
> >>>>>> circumstances (I don't know how the pharmacist would have felt
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> Yep, I think we have a winner with that one ... Joanne has officially
> grossed me out in return.  <g>
Tracey - 20 Dec 2004 10:50 GMT
> On Sat, 18 Dec 2004 19:00:35 -0500, "Joanne"
>
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> Mariette
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Don't you find there are some foods that people either love or hate?  I
adore marzipan but many of my friends gag at the thought of it.  I think
marmite/vegemite is another.  My fella loves it but I can't stand it.

Tracey
Tania - 22 Dec 2004 22:11 GMT
My boyfriend LOVES Marmite, I don't mind it too much.
Celery makes me sick - I could never eat that!! I can't eat red meat, or
with a face still attached!! (fish!)
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>> On Sat, 18 Dec 2004 19:00:35 -0500, "Joanne"
>>
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>
> Tracey
Kate - 23 Dec 2004 04:40 GMT
I eat Marmite straight off the spoon...forget spreading on toast...LOL.
> My boyfriend LOVES Marmite, I don't mind it too much.
> Celery makes me sick - I could never eat that!! I can't eat red meat, or
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> >
> > Tracey
Tania - 26 Dec 2004 10:05 GMT
LOL!!!!
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>I eat Marmite straight off the spoon...forget spreading on toast...LOL.
>> My boyfriend LOVES Marmite, I don't mind it too much.
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>> >
>> > Tracey
Keith Schiffner - 26 Dec 2004 15:01 GMT
> LOL!!!!

Well ours enjoyed a delightful meal of shrimp cocktail,
turduchen, seafood stuffing, fresh rolls...couldn't let them
have any of the SE Australian Chardonnay though.

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Phil L - 26 Dec 2004 17:07 GMT
::: LOL!!!!
::
:: Well ours enjoyed a delightful meal of shrimp cocktail,
:: turduchen, seafood stuffing, fresh rolls...couldn't let them
:: have any of the SE Australian Chardonnay though.

I don't think I could eat anything with a name like TURDuchen!
Tracey - 26 Dec 2004 17:58 GMT
> :: Well ours enjoyed a delightful meal of shrimp cocktail,
> :: turduchen, seafood stuffing, fresh rolls...couldn't let them
> :: have any of the SE Australian Chardonnay though.
>
> I don't think I could eat anything with a name like TURDuchen!

Just what I was thinking!!

Tracey
Keith Schiffner - 26 Dec 2004 22:56 GMT
> :: "Tania" <tania.hewitt@nospam.ntlworld.com> wrote in
> message
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> I don't think I could eat anything with a name like
> TURDuchen!

Philistine! It's a fine American meal based on fine French
traditional cooking...you stuff a deboned Hen into a deboned
Duck which is then stuffed into a deboned Turkey. Very damn
good!

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Tracey - 26 Dec 2004 18:08 GMT
> Well ours enjoyed a delightful meal of shrimp cocktail,
> turduchen, seafood stuffing, fresh rolls...couldn't let them
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Did you treat yourself to a bottle of Amontillado this Christmas? :o)

Tracey
Keith Schiffner - 26 Dec 2004 22:51 GMT
SNIP

> Did you treat yourself to a bottle of Amontillado this
> Christmas? :o)

Nope, my Christmas to me came early in the form of a Martin
695. ;^) Much more fun and only slightly more of a headache.

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Tracey - 27 Dec 2004 10:33 GMT
> SNIP
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Haven't a clue what that is Keith, can you enlighten?

Tracey
Keith Schiffner - 27 Dec 2004 15:47 GMT
SNIP

> Haven't a clue what that is Keith, can you enlighten?
>
> Tracey

A most LARGE cage...

Their home page

http://www.martinscages.com/products/cages/rat/

My actual cage from their books...there is an actual shot on
my pages.

http://www.martinscages.com/images/full/r-695.jpg

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Mariette - 26 Dec 2004 21:12 GMT
>> LOL!!!!
>
>Well ours enjoyed a delightful meal of shrimp cocktail,
>turduchen, seafood stuffing, fresh rolls...couldn't let them
>have any of the SE Australian Chardonnay though.

For real, turducken?  Did you make it yourself?  That's quite an
extensive undertaking from what I've heard (but really worth the
effort, as opposed to something like haggis <g>).  

I really want to get a taste of it one of these days myself.  

http://www.thesalmons.org/lynn/turducken.mp3  ;)

(http://www.thesalmons.org/lynn/turducken.html)

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Keith Schiffner - 26 Dec 2004 22:54 GMT
SNIP
> For real, turducken?  Did you make it yourself?  That's
> quite an
> extensive undertaking from what I've heard (but really
> worth the
> effort, as opposed to something like haggis <g>).

For real...but I spent the money and bought one already
made. There isn't enough Paxil on the planet for me to learn
to debone a Turkey a Duck and Hen in one day. Not going to
happen, uh-huh! But it is worth the experience.

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Kate - 21 Dec 2004 00:08 GMT
Microwaved Cauliflower with grated cheese and tonnes of ground black
pepper...MMMMM..:)

> >>> Hehe.  Great story.  I've just come to calling them "pets" in a lot of
> >>> circumstances (I don't know how the pharmacist would have felt
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> lol... not brussel sprouts... and I won't go out of my way for cauliflower
> either. ick ;)
tywysoges - 19 Dec 2004 04:41 GMT
> Sorry, Joanne.  But now you can go and tell me about how much you love
> brussel sprouts or cauliflower to pay me back.  ;)

Mmm..brussel sprouts are yummy :) Cauliflower, not so much, though..

Adri,
vegetarian.. (so no fish)
Tracey - 20 Dec 2004 10:34 GMT
> >> Hehe.  Great story.  I've just come to calling them "pets" in a lot of
> >> circumstances (I don't know how the pharmacist would have felt
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> Mariette
> (wabewawa61-at-earthlink-dot-net)

One of our local Indian restaurants puts brussel sprouts in their curries!
I do love Indian food but not when it includes brussels, ack!

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Kate - 18 Dec 2004 00:20 GMT
OMG Mariette .... that is disgusting...LOL.  You have no respect for your
insides Im sure...:))  I hate fish too unless its from the Fish and Chip
shop...LOL

> >Last night we hit the Supermarket to do the Xmas Dinner shopping.  We were
> >standing in the aisle discussing the best fish for Xmas Dinner..."Tuna?"...
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> with a little hot sauce (oh dear, I can just hear poor Kate trying to
> choke back a gag reaction now).  ;)
Mariette - 18 Dec 2004 23:34 GMT
>OMG Mariette .... that is disgusting...LOL.  You have no respect for your
>insides Im sure...:))  I hate fish too unless its from the Fish and Chip
>shop...LOL

Hehe.  Well, I probably can't really argue with that, about not having
any respect for my insides.  :)  Oh yes, mmmm, Fish and Chips too.
Pretty much all fish are most welcome in my tum-tum, except for
anchovies, I suppose.

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>> >Last night we hit the Supermarket to do the Xmas Dinner shopping.  We
>were
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>> with a little hot sauce (oh dear, I can just hear poor Kate trying to
>> choke back a gag reaction now).  ;)
Tracey - 20 Dec 2004 10:58 GMT
<snip>

>I hate fish too unless its from the Fish and Chip
> shop...LOL

When I used to eat meat I found that too - just couldn't stand the taste of
fish but loved a piece of battered cod or plaice from the local chippie!
Oh, I did like tuna sarnies, especially tuna mayonnaise topped with pickled
gherkins...yum!

Tracey
Kate - 21 Dec 2004 00:17 GMT
EWWW...LOL... I use to be a Vegetarian until I married.  Hubby assured me he
was a meat and 3 veg man.  Over the years I have weaned him..:))  Maybe some
chicken or a pie...but that's about all.

Regards Kate

> <snip>
>
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>
> Tracey
J&S Bouchard - 17 Dec 2004 19:34 GMT
> Last night we hit the Supermarket to do the Xmas Dinner shopping.  We were
> standing in the aisle discussing the best fish for Xmas
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>
> Kind regards Kate

Wow, sounds wonderful, ok, not really but I bet the ratties are going to
love it. ;)
Sweet story!! Should have seen our pharmacist once when we were getting our
Zithromax there. They had to do the printout for rats. We sure got a funny
look!
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tywysoges - 19 Dec 2004 04:42 GMT
>  No Plum Pud sadly as it usually lays my
> Father out for the rest of the day, I'd hate to think what it would do to
> them..:)

Not sure what plum pudding actually is.. does it have liquor, or is it
just really heavy on the stomach?

Adri
Kate - 21 Dec 2004 00:15 GMT
Plum Pudding is a fruit filled steam pudding laced with lashings of Sherry,
whiskey..:))  before you serve it you pour more booze over it and set it
alight...:))  You use to be able to add money to it and cook it so when you
had a slice you would find the money..:)) Sadly money is not made the same
and can't be cooked.  I would liken it to a very dark, rich Christmas cake
but eaten hot with Custard, Ice cream etc.

Regards Kate

> >  No Plum Pud sadly as it usually lays my
> > Father out for the rest of the day, I'd hate to think what it would do to
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> Adri
Tracey - 20 Dec 2004 10:31 GMT
> Last night we hit the Supermarket to do the Xmas Dinner shopping.  We were
> standing in the aisle discussing the best fish for Xmas Dinner..."Tuna?"...
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That's got me chuckling!  Sounds like the kind of scenario I get myself
into!

Tracey
 
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