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Update on Jacques (Christmas emergency)

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Meghan - 28 Dec 2004 02:43 GMT
This post is a follow up to my "Help! Christmas Emergency!" post on
Christmas.

Luckily, my former vet back in Massachusetts was open on Sunday and was able
to see Jacques.  So off he went with us to Mass., with Pierre for company.

The vet there was very good and she said right away she believed it was a
tumor, not an abscess.  She was sure whatever it was, it needed surgery.
Jacques was in obvious pain and was able to get pain meds right away.  So he
and Pierre spent the night at the vet in preparation for the surgery this
morning, while we continued on to our relative's house and got 23 inches of
snow dumped on us on Cape Cod.

So we made the trip back to the vet, a 4-hour drive in the snow, and she had
taken x-rays of Jacques.  The tumor was large and involved soft tissue AND
bone.  She showed me the x-ray and his little ankle bone had a bulge in it
and looked terrible.  She recommended leg amputation.  I remembered what
Joanne wrote to me about her Sven, and felt much better about giving the
go-ahead to remove his leg.

One hour after surgery they brought Jacques to see me.  He was moving around
incredibly well and alert.  His entire right hind area was shaved and he has
a BIG scar with hidden sutures.  He is taking 2 pain meds (buprenorphine and
metacam) and a cipro/doxycycline antibiotic.

I feel like the worst part of it all is that he has to be separated from
Pierre and Maggie for so long - at least a week.  He is resting tonight but
still alert enough to enjoy some dry rotini and cream cheese (with the
meds).  My biggest concern is keeping him warm.  We spent the 6 hour drive
home with the heat blasting.  He's in a plastic cat carrier now, with a warm
water bottle.  I don't think the heating pad could penetrate the carrier,
and I don't think I should put it inside.

Entire cost of "abscess-turned-tumor" about $650.  The
surgery/drugs/exam/x-ray yesterday and today came to $520 and I had spent
about $130 on two prior vet visits and antibiotics.  It's alot but Jacques
is finally going to be well!!!  I can't imagine the pain he's been in.  When
I think about us trying to "aspirate" that tumor... ohhhhh.  I honestly
believe the more local (Vermont) vet is a good vet, but it scares me that
she missed the diagnosis twice.

Well, thank you all so much for your advice and help.  Any 3-legged rattie
stories or recommendations will be eagerly read.

Meghan
Keith Schiffner - 28 Dec 2004 02:51 GMT
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> Well, thank you all so much for your advice and help.  Any
> 3-legged rattie
> stories or recommendations will be eagerly read.

That's GREAT news! Good GOOBERS! $520usd's! I think I'd HAVE
to make payments...not made of money you know.

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Mariette - 28 Dec 2004 03:04 GMT
Wow.  Just wow.  How's that saying go, about how we're never
given more than we can handle?  (to me it usually feels like at least
a few percentage points above and beyond, though)   Well, what you
were able to handle, Meghan, is way more than many, many could,
so it certainly is good that Jacques made it into your family for his
sake in the long run.

And best of luck with finding a better vet nearby soon (I'll be
curious to hear if the Maine one works out okay).  Oh, and I believe
Mark Tomlinson had a rat that was born with only three legs, so he's
probably got a few stories to tell.  :)

Major admiration here for all you've done, Meghan.  Brava.

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>This post is a follow up to my "Help! Christmas Emergency!" post on
>Christmas.
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>Meghan
Meghan - 28 Dec 2004 04:13 GMT
> Wow.  Just wow.  How's that saying go, about how we're never
> given more than we can handle?  (to me it usually feels like at least
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> Major admiration here for all you've done, Meghan.  Brava.

Thank you so much for the praise.  It's funny, I just kept doing the next
thing, what I had to do until Jacques was better.  You don't realize how
much you're going through until it's done and you go, "whoa".  I am VERY,
VERY grateful that we are able to afford the treatment, which is insanely
high IMO.  I will definitely be doing some overtime in the next few weeks to
make up for it.  My husband is convinced that I am "cosmically drawn" to
every sick and suffering animal and has begged me not to get any more.

I got my first rattie ever on August 11th of this year.  In less than 5
months we have had:

1 rescue rattie who came with lice (Hailey)
1 outbreak of fur mites (all)
1 mammary tumor (Maggie)
1 spay (Maggie)
1 sudden rattie death due to pituitary tumor (Hailey)
1 myco/respiratory infection (Jacques)
1 abscess-turned-tumor-turned-amputation (Jacques)
7 vet visits across 3 different States

I'm trying to convince my husband this is a fluke, but he's not buying it.
I also didn't mention the 3 cats with feline herpes, one cat with an
unexplained, untreatable wheezing, and a mouse who had a stroke a couple of
months ago (she's doing great).  I think I'm living in Meghan's Ark.

Meghan
Mariette - 28 Dec 2004 05:42 GMT
>> Wow.  Just wow.  How's that saying go, about how we're never
>> given more than we can handle?  (to me it usually feels like at least
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>Meghan

Meghan said:  'It's funny, I just kept doing the next thing, what I
had to do until Jacques was better.  You don't realize how much you're
going through until it's done and you go, "whoa".'

Exactly.  Couldn't have said it better myself.  So maybe these animals
in extreme need are sent your way, indeed, since you can handle it
better than the vast majority of folks could (and so perhaps it really
isn't a fluke).  Hard row to hoe, but hopefully the rewards are
greater too after having done such a great job by them.

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Tracey - 28 Dec 2004 11:02 GMT
> Thank you so much for the praise.  It's funny, I just kept doing the next
> thing, what I had to do until Jacques was better.  You don't realize how
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> Meghan

If only there were more people in the world like you, Meghan!  How you've
meticulously looked after your rats and kept going when faced with all and
sundry is absolutely brilliant.  And all the miles you've had to travel and
money you've spent...  How lucky that your ratties, and indeed your other
animals, were 'sent' to you to be cared for so well.

Hurrah for Meghan :o)

Well wishes to little Jacques, I'm sure he'll do just fine with three legs,
it's amazing how quickly they adapt.

Here's hoping that the new year brings you better luck and good health to
your little ones.

Tracey
elegy - 28 Dec 2004 11:53 GMT
just out of curiosity, did you send the tumor out to find out what it
was?

i'm glad you had a good vet to take care of your poor guy. sounds like
you made the right decision with the leg amputation. he's a very very
lucky boy to have a mom as good as you!

best wishes for a speedy recovery. i bet he does just fine.

btw, for heat we use socks filled with dry rice and heated in the
microwave, then wrapped in a towel. unless you have big chewers, then
this wouldn't work so well, but i've not had a rat chew through yet.

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Meghan - 28 Dec 2004 14:08 GMT
The vet thought it was either one of two types of bone sarcomas.  It is
being analyzed and I should hear back in one week as to what it actually
was.  I am very curious... will post results too.  Good thing is she took an
x-ray of his whole body and his lungs looked clear, so hopefully we escaped
any spreading.

Jacques stayed very warm last night.  All the ratties got to move into our
bedroom and we had the heat cranked up in there.  He was alert this morning
and looking great, and really got into the lowfat-yogurt chaser after his
meds.

Meghan

> just out of curiosity, did you send the tumor out to find out what it
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Kelly - 28 Dec 2004 15:47 GMT
Meghan,

You have gone through so much since getting your gang of rats.  I just want
to commend you on your persistance and care. You really did the right thing.
I hope in the future you start to get some better luck, because if anyone
deserves it, you do.  Have a great New Years and keep us updated.

Kelly

> This post is a follow up to my "Help! Christmas Emergency!" post on
> Christmas.
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> Meghan
Joanne - 28 Dec 2004 16:33 GMT
> This post is a follow up to my "Help! Christmas Emergency!" post on
> Christmas.
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> Meghan

I'd swear you have a colony of 10 rats or more with all those troubles that
has haunted your ratties.
But Meghan, they went to the right person didn't they? Lucky ratties they
are!!!
At least Jacques escaped multiple tumor removals and went straight the leg
amputation. Which in my opinion is much better.
For my mom and Sven, after three tumor removals, one leg amputation and
multiple emergency vet visit due to swelling and lots of antibiotics later,
the cost: $1500 CAD. That's one huge investment. lol But Sven is worth it.
You'll want to invest in a good little brush or tooth brush cause your
sweetie won't be able to scratch that side and he'll need your as his
scratcher. It will break your hear when you see him trying to scratch
himself with his phantom leg.
Rats are such brave souls...
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Tania - 29 Dec 2004 19:49 GMT
Always read your posts with such a big respect for you Meghan and how much
you have done for your babies. (Jacques is SO gorgeous, that picture of him
in that pink towel is so heart warming!)
Big clap and pat on the back for you! Wishing Jacques a speedy recover and
quick adaption :o)
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> This post is a follow up to my "Help! Christmas Emergency!" post on
> Christmas.
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> Meghan
 
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