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Pet Forum / Mammals / Rats / May 2006Art, an update, still don't know what's wrong with him
I took Art to the vet earlier and he felt all round his tummy and testicles, the bit that is causing the most pain to tough is kind of between the side of the lower abdomen and the testicles. I told him that the urine was clear , he was passing droppings and not off his food. He felt all round him and agreed there was no sign of injury and that his bladder etc felt normal. He gave Art another antibiotic injection and a pain killing injection (and remarked on how tough his skin is) He asked me to hand in a sample of Arts uring tomorrow. It's really baffling as to why he is in so much pain andheartbreaking to hear him squeaking if he rubs against a towel or his bed :-( > I took Art to the vet earlier and he felt all round his tummy and testicles, > the bit that is causing the most pain to tough is kind of between the side [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > It's really baffling as to why he is in so much pain andheartbreaking to > hear him squeaking if he rubs against a towel or his bed :-( Poor baby boy... :( Are you giving him meds at home too?  SignatureJoanne Owned by 20 rats. Webshots: http://community.webshots.com/user/joanneb70 ------------------------------------------------------- ~Ignorance is not innocence but sin. *Robert Browning* >> I took Art to the vet earlier and he felt all round his tummy and >> testicles, the bit that is causing the most pain to tough is kind of [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > Poor baby boy... :( > Are you giving him meds at home too? He has baytrol twice daily (only once today as he got the injection) I woke him up when I came back in (I keep weird hours as I'm a carer for my Mum who lives near by) I managed to get a urine sample to hand in tomorrow , I popped it in the fridge for tonight. I gave the cage a good clean when we came back from the vets to make sure the sample wasn't corrupted with brocoli or cheerios etc. I don't even have my pet rats yet, so it's highly likely I don't know what I'm talking about. That being said, have you tried any heat or cold treatments? I was thinking if you made a little fabric bag and filled it with dry rice, you could warm it in the microwave or chill it in the freezer and then he could lay on it. It wouldn't cure anything, but it might provide comfort. Also, have you tried posting your question on any online vet forums like alt.med.veterinary? A vet who was well informed about rats might be really sympathetic to your situation, since your own vet isn't very rat experienced. Good luck and I hope Art feels better soon. Kim >I don't even have my pet rats yet, so it's highly likely I don't know > what I'm talking about. That being said, have you tried any heat or [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > > Kim Thanks Kim, I didn't know about that newsgroup I will post there. The bag is a good idea but I'm afraid Art is a compulsive chewer he eats his way through everything. > I don't even have my pet rats yet, so it's highly likely I don't know > what I'm talking about. That being said, have you tried any heat or [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > > Kim Wow, I didn't know there was such a newsgroup. That's great! SignatureJoanne Owned by 20 rats. Webshots: http://community.webshots.com/user/joanneb70 ------------------------------------------------------- ~Ignorance is not innocence but sin. *Robert Browning* <snip> > Also, have you tried posting your question on any online vet forums > like alt.med.veterinary? A vet who was well informed about rats might [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > Kim Another one here who didn't know such a group existed! Tracey > <snip> >> Also, have you tried posting your question on any online vet forums [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > > Tracey Just had a quick look at the group and I see The Puppy Wizard haunts that group too (he's a nuisance on the dog newsgroups). I recommend killfiling him as his posts are utter nonsense. Tracey Did the vet say anything about an abcess? Have you looked at ratguide.com? There is a lot of detailed health info there complete with pictures. Kim > Did the vet say anything about an abcess? > > Have you looked at ratguide.com? There is a lot of detailed health info > there complete with pictures. > > Kim What an amazing site, thanks for the link. I've printed off some information to take to my vet tomorrow. The vet has made no mention of an abcess. I've posted Arts urine smaple results below. >I took Art to the vet earlier and he felt all round his tummy and >testicles, the bit that is causing the most pain to tough is kind of [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > It's really baffling as to why he is in so much pain andheartbreaking to > hear him squeaking if he rubs against a towel or his bed :-( You must be so worried and frustrated. Hopefully the urine sample will shed some light on what is wrong. Tracey I know this maybe a silly question but I do remember my little chap Berkley at around 9-10 months old having a prblem with his gonad area being sore to touch, he had the biggest wax plug in his willy you have ever seen. I don't know if you know about these but if boys get quite portly and are a bit slap dash about washing those bits they get this horrible lump of hard yellowish gunk that you need to squeeze out. It is not a nice job but one of those things you have check with boys. If you gently squeeze just below his willy if it is hard then apply a slight pressure with your fingers pushing up to the opening and it will pop out. Like I said not a nice job. SignatureJackie - Jorja and Texas <:_)~ and the Boys, Ronald, Scratch, Rupert and Wilbur. http://community.webshots.com/user/mullins9 > >>I took Art to the vet earlier and he felt all round his tummy and [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > > Tracey Also could it be an intersurseption where the intesitne goes inside itself. You did say he was a chewer? Might have something stuck. Have you asked for an X Ray? SignatureJackie - Jorja and Texas <:_)~ and the Boys, Ronald, Scratch, Rupert and Wilbur. http://community.webshots.com/user/mullins9 >I know this maybe a silly question but I do remember my little chap Berkley >at around 9-10 months old having a prblem with his gonad area being sore to [quoted text clipped - 23 lines] >> >> Tracey > Also could it be an intersurseption where the intesitne goes inside > itself. You did say he was a chewer? Might have something stuck. Have you > asked for an X Ray? The vet has asked me to weigh Art daily and if he starts loosing exessive weight he will x-ray. Do you need to give a rat anasthetic for an x-ray? The urine test revealed a very high level of protein which is not diet related as I am careful not to feed too many nuts and seeds etc. and an extemely high level of ketones , no sugar and no blood. The vet said this was unusual and had no idea as to what the levels indicate. I've been searching the net for a couple of hours and am pretty sure it could be kidney stones or bladder stones, maybe crystals stuck in the ureatha, I am going to speak to the vet first thing tomorrow and suggest this. > The urine test revealed a very high level of protein which is not diet > related as I am careful not to feed [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > ureatha, > I am going to speak to the vet first thing tomorrow and suggest this. That was also my first thought with the crystals in the bladder and urethra. I wonder if Clavamox or even Septra would be a better med? SignatureJoanne Owned by 20 rats. Webshots: http://community.webshots.com/user/joanneb70 ------------------------------------------------------- ~Ignorance is not innocence but sin. *Robert Browning* >> The urine test revealed a very high level of protein which is not diet >> related as I am careful not to feed [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > urethra. > I wonder if Clavamox or even Septra would be a better med? Thanks for the advice on meds, I will pass that on to my vet. I phoned them this morning and told them what I thought it was but they said that I would have to submit another sample of Arts uring to them on Monday to be sent away for testing as they do not have the facilities to advance test there, the lab is closed until Tuesday due to a bank holiday and it could take a few days, I told them I was willing to pay for the priority service but even taht means not getting a result until at least Thursday. Do you know if there is anything I can give him in his diet to help? >>>The urine test revealed a very high level of protein which is not diet >>>related as I am careful not to feed [quoted text clipped - 22 lines] > even taht means not getting a result until at least Thursday. > Do you know if there is anything I can give him in his diet to help? I would give him plenty of veggies and also try papaya, I know in rabbits it helps with their gut flora. Has there been any changes yet? SignatureJoanne Owned by 20 rats. Webshots: http://community.webshots.com/user/joanneb70 ------------------------------------------------------- ~Ignorance is not innocence but sin. *Robert Browning* >>>>The urine test revealed a very high level of protein which is not diet >>>>related as I am careful not to feed [quoted text clipped - 26 lines] > it helps with their gut flora. > Has there been any changes yet? Thanks Joanne , I wouldn't of thought of papaya, I will get some tomorrow and add it to his diet, he has been getting loads of other fresh fruit and veggies. Art is a lot better now, I have posted a full update, (the update turned out to be a novel, so much to mention :-) >I know this maybe a silly question but I do remember my little chap Berkley >at around 9-10 months old having a prblem with his gonad area being sore to [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] >his willy if it is hard then apply a slight pressure with your fingers >pushing up to the opening and it will pop out. Like I said not a nice job. Thanks for the info, I checked Art and found no sign any wax plug, but it's something I will remember for the future. I've posted Arts urine sample results below. |
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