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Mad-Biker - 07 Jun 2006 10:21 GMT
I went to my pet shop today in regards to the scratches and the possibility
of mites.

She said that it could also be mange? and recomended trying tea tree oil on
it as it will kill mites, any bacteria and help the wounds heal?

What do you think?
EternityGrace - 07 Jun 2006 13:07 GMT
"Tea Tree Oil contains upwards of 38% terpinen-4-ol. Data sheets state
that it is harmful if swallowed and, in humans, is an eye, skin and
respiratory irritant. It is a solvent of oil-base products e.g.
plastics, rubber, oil based paints etc. It is absorbed rapidly and
toxic effects noted in humans include central nervous system
depression, seizures, coma and respiratory depression.

In humans, terpinen-4-ol has a toxicity of 4.3 g/kg, corresponding to a
"completely safe" rating of between 3 and 5. One In rats, the lethal
dose (LD50 - dosage at which 50% of subjects are fatally poisoned)
is1.9 ml/kg (note: rats have relatively good liver function compared to
that of felines). One promoter of Tea Tree Oil glowingly cites four
cases of children swallowing up to 25 ml of Tea Tree Oil with no worse
effects than mild diarrhoea and drowsiness which passed within 24
hours, but conveniently ignored a case where a patient remained in coma
for 12 hours and semi-conscious for 36 hours following Tea Tree Oil
ingestion. "
http://messybeast.com/teatree.htm

That was on a website saying that its toxic to felines...

http://cj_whitehound.madasafish.com/Rats_Nest/Norway_Rats/HealthTips/pododermati
tis.htm

Suggests having a rat paddle in a diluted solution to help relieve
Pododermatitis

http://www.fancy-rats.co.uk/information/health/
Herbal remedies hit the rat's medicine cupboard!

More and more herbal remedies are becoming invaluable to treating
certain rat health problems. 'Tea Tree Oil' seems to be top of the
list, used for treating conditions such as itchy skin and bumblefoot.
'Rescue Remedy' a blend of different herbs has been used to treat rats
that are in shock or are stressed.

Personally, I would consider this "Rescue Remedy", but I wouldn't just
make it myself unless I could find a trustworthy dosage amount...

> I went to my pet shop today in regards to the scratches and the possibility
> of mites.
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> What do you think?
Mad-Biker - 07 Jun 2006 13:24 GMT
mmm i put a tiny bit on my finger and rubbed it over her back a few hours
ago, she seems good as normal. The stuff is watered down already and is a
package designed for treating cuts and abrasions, acne, bites, infections
etc in humans.

See how it goes.

> "Tea Tree Oil contains upwards of 38% terpinen-4-ol. Data sheets state
> that it is harmful if swallowed and, in humans, is an eye, skin and
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>> What do you think?
Kate - 07 Jun 2006 23:58 GMT
In this country Tea Tree Oil is part of the treatment for Nits.  Those
nasty bugs kids bring home in their hair. . . .  The  Nit shampoo has
tea tree oil in it and then in between shampooings you comb tea tree oil
through the hair.  Did I mention it stinks too....

Regards Kate
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jb_rats@yahoo.ca - 07 Jun 2006 19:45 GMT
> I went to my pet shop today in regards to the scratches and the possibility
> of mites.
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> What do you think?

I once mentioned to my vet that I was going to use Tea Tree oil. She
told me to never use that on any animals. It is highly toxic. Besides,
the tea tree would help clear up the scabs but not get rid of the
mites. You need to get rid of the problem first.

Joanne
Owned by 20 rats
Mad-Biker - 08 Jun 2006 02:32 GMT
I supose its a bit different, because tea trees are native to australia,
they will kill the mites too apparently. It is toxic to a degree, which its
why it kills the mites, but like all things its dosage, put enough on, so it
kills the mites but not the rat.

>> I went to my pet shop today in regards to the scratches and the
>> possibility
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> Joanne
> Owned by 20 rats
Kate - 08 Jun 2006 04:21 GMT
How true...:)
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Michael Rozdoba - 10 Jun 2006 12:35 GMT
> I supose its a bit different, because tea trees are native to australia,
> they will kill the mites too apparently. It is toxic to a degree, which its
> why it kills the mites, but like all things its dosage, put enough on, so it
> kills the mites but not the rat.

Isn't the potential problem with topical applications & animals that
they might well groom themselves & end up ingesting a lot of the
substance, components of which can often accumulate in certain organs
(depending on the substance in question), causing poisoning even at low
dosage?

I'd not hesitate to use tea tree oil on myself, but on our rats I'd want
more reassurance first.

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DrPepperOkie - 08 Jun 2006 05:47 GMT
My story, which I am still dealing with, is a large raised thick circular
area from what looks like a allergic reaction to a possible spider bite.

I went to the ER and Doctor, no cream or prescription helped.

Except one thing I tried out of desperation and on a sheer whim....

NexCare Skin/Heel crack treatment from Wal-Mart.
It looks like a bottle of clear nail polish, but it's not of course.

I put it all over my wound area ,and in less than 12 hours I could see the
amazing difference.

One of the main ingredients was Tea Tree Oil.

It has been the only product to work on me.
It releives the itching and pain and heals the skin quite nicely.

Samantha C. in Oklahoma

>I went to my pet shop today in regards to the scratches and the possibility
>of mites.
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> What do you think?

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Mad-Biker - 10 Jun 2006 09:40 GMT
Whiskers is fine, and the part were i was putting it on her has cleared up,
no scabbing and she appears much much better, doesnt seem to be scratching
and is more active.

im now rubbing it on the other parts, arond her neck and further down her
back, hopefully this tea tree oil is a magic cure..

im slowly putting the 2 rats in with each other now, but i keep thinking
they are fighting, but like punching each other, not biting or anything.
more of licking and grooming

>I went to my pet shop today in regards to the scratches and the possibility
>of mites.
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> What do you think?
Joanne - 11 Jun 2006 00:46 GMT
> Whiskers is fine, and the part were i was putting it on her has cleared up,
> no scabbing and she appears much much better, doesnt seem to be scratching
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>>What do you think?

If there's no blood and no petrified rats, then I would say it sounds
promising!!

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Mad-Biker - 16 Jun 2006 05:10 GMT
Well whiskers, seems fine and healthy, all her scabs have healed up, im
guessing if their were any mange mites, they are gawn as well because she
isnt stratching as much.

Nill ill effects, she seems a lot happier now and has hair growing back were
it was balding.

cheers
Mad

>I went to my pet shop today in regards to the scratches and the possibility
>of mites.
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> What do you think?
Joanne - 17 Jun 2006 00:51 GMT
> Well whiskers, seems fine and healthy, all her scabs have healed up, im
> guessing if their were any mange mites, they are gawn as well because she
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> cheers
> Mad

That's really great news! How are the two getting along now?

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Mad-Biker - 17 Jun 2006 06:34 GMT
They seem to be going good, they are sleeping together and have been in the
same cage for almost a week.

you get the occassional squeek with them running around, but they seem to be
good, no blood or injuries so it cant be that bad.

i got a feeling whiskers has a bit of a mothering instinct with bella, keeps
cleaning her like a mum does to her babies.

Mad

>> Well whiskers, seems fine and healthy, all her scabs have healed up, im
>> guessing if their were any mange mites, they are gawn as well because she
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> That's really great news! How are the two getting along now?
Joanne - 17 Jun 2006 14:01 GMT
> They seem to be going good, they are sleeping together and have been in the
> same cage for almost a week.
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> Mad

aww... that is so sweet!!
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NRen2k5 - 17 Jun 2006 15:25 GMT
> They seem to be going good, they are sleeping together and have been in the
> same cage for almost a week.
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> i got a feeling whiskers has a bit of a mothering instinct with bella, keeps
> cleaning her like a mum does to her babies.

I see Daisy (my fuzzy girl) doing that to my double rex girls. I chalk
it up to them being so hairless. ;D

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Mad-Biker - 18 Jun 2006 04:30 GMT
Im sure like all animals, when a baby is introduced to them, they often look
after it or eat it.

>> They seem to be going good, they are sleeping together and have been in
>> the same cage for almost a week.
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> I see Daisy (my fuzzy girl) doing that to my double rex girls. I chalk it
> up to them being so hairless. ;D
 
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