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Pet Forum / Mammals / Rats / August 2006why does everyone love male rats so much?
i've found females to be affectionate and clean. ( i own both males and females) > i've found females to be affectionate and clean. > > ( i own both males and females) I own females too and they are very affectionate and playful. I actually asked for male rats as I was told female rats are aggressive, but after a few weeks I discovered my "males" were really females. I just love male rats that are big and sqiggy and they just love belly scratching and kisses and they play with balls and bits of string. Girls I found are very quick and are more outgoing and do not like playing much. But I am sure someone will tell me different. BUT my husband likes girl rats our have both passed away now but he has put his name down for the next litter of Berkshire Agouti Rexes so that should be fun!!!  SignatureJackie - <:_)~ and the Boys, Ronald, Scratch, Rupert and Wilbur, Toffee, Bonker and Chewy. http://community.webshots.com/user/mullins9 > >> i've found females to be affectionate and clean. [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > actually asked for male rats as I was told female rats are aggressive, > but after a few weeks I discovered my "males" were really females. > i've found females to be affectionate and clean. > > ( i own both males and females) I have both and love them equally. :) SignatureJoanne Owned by 22 rats. Webshots: http://community.webshots.com/user/joanneb70 ------------------------------------------------------- ~Ignorance is not innocence but sin. *Robert Browning* Ive had girls and boys. I fancy boys over girls. Infact I did fancy hairless boys over hairy males for a time there but since Ive had spot (my only hairy male I have left) things have been different. Getting back to girls verses boys... Girls = nesty, nesty, they like to make nesties. In your hair, in your bed, in your anywhere you will let them! :) I have found female runts of the litter to be the best snuggle mates for me. I have had hairys, ive had double rex's and one hairless with an eye missing. I will miss them deeply and know they are in a better place. Males = snuggles, kisses, got a treat in your hand for me? Lemme see, I will take it gently mommy! I never thought I would ever own a male because of their ginormous furry pills or in the case of a hairless just the pills. But I have grown to love em just like I did my females. Cept they like to snuggle on me not make a nest out of me (lol). I see everyone has their own reasons for liking one gender over another or equally. Im still undecided. Thanks for allowing me to put in my 2cents. Take care, and I hope all these responses help. Dawn > > i've found females to be affectionate and clean. > > [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > ------------------------------------------------------- > ~Ignorance is not innocence but sin. *Robert Browning* it sounds like you have owned many rats so i respect your opinion. > Ive had girls and boys. I fancy boys over girls. Infact I did fancy > hairless boys over hairy males for a time there but since Ive had spot [quoted text clipped - 32 lines] >> ------------------------------------------------------- >> ~Ignorance is not innocence but sin. *Robert Browning* Good question. I'm pretty new to rats, but I wanted females because they don't scent mark as much. I had also heard they were more energetic. Imagine my surprise when I started calling local pet stores and found out they only carry males. In my area, breeders are out of the question. There just aren't any. But I live within a 45 minute drive of about 12 large pet stores and none of them carried females. I finally got them after a two hour one way drive. Then one of those died from a myco flare up that the vet attributed to the stress of the long trip. Now one of my other rats has died suddenly (see my other post) and I'm faced with the same problem again when I go to find a new cage mate for my remaining rat. I guess on the positive side, it is nice to hear that pet stores are wising up to the problems of accidental litters and are taking steps to prevent that. Welcome to the group, by the way. I have found this group friendly and knowledgeable as I've started my adventure with rats. > Good question. I'm pretty new to rats, but I wanted females because > they don't scent mark as much. I had also heard they were more [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > Welcome to the group, by the way. I have found this group friendly and > knowledgeable as I've started my adventure with rats. the pet stores in my area always seem to have both sexes in the same cage. most often they have had no contact with human hands whatsoever. when i have a batch of erasers, i put them in my hand from just a few days old. my current batch has had almost daily hand contact and they are currently about 2 weeks old. i sell them to a couple of the local pet stores in my area. the customers have said nice things about my batches regarding how easily they allow themselves to be handled. unfortunately only a few out of each litter actually find people to look after them. most of them, i am told, are sold as snake food. poor little guys. everything around here is always regular hooded rats. only once while browsing have i ever some across the orange colored rats ( my favs) , but they were too old and i never buy older rats. >> Good question. I'm pretty new to rats, but I wanted females because >> they don't scent mark as much. I had also heard they were more [quoted text clipped - 28 lines] > browsing have i ever some across the orange colored rats ( my favs) , but > they were too old and i never buy older rats. You shouldn't breed rats. You obviously don't care enough what happens to them. Rosemary I'm with you Rosemary, I could not sleep at night thinking that my babies were stuck in a cage with no means of escape just to feed a snake. SignatureJackie - <:_)~ and the Boys, Ronald, Scratch, Rupert and Wilbur, Toffee, Bonker and Chewy. http://community.webshots.com/user/mullins9 > >>> Good question. I'm pretty new to rats, but I wanted females because [quoted text clipped - 34 lines] > > Rosemary > I'm with you Rosemary, I could not sleep at night thinking that my babies > were stuck in a cage with no means of escape just to feed a snake. Glad I'm not alone :-) I am aware that snakes etc. need to be fed but there is no reason to support the live food trade, which is not humane (to put it politely) for the "food" and can be dangerous for the snake, too. Also, there is no comparison with what happens in the wild, as at least the prey then has some chance of escape - and just because nature is cruel, it doesn't mean we have to be, too. Rosemary >> I'm with you Rosemary, I could not sleep at night thinking that my babies >> were stuck in a cage with no means of escape just to feed a snake. [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > > Rosemary Well said Rosemary..:) My first ever Rats were two very old fellas. Age wasn't a consideration at all. They needed a loving home urgently, and that was all that mattered...:) SignatureToday I may meet with injustice, ignorance, denial, all of which are due entirely to the other's lack of knowledge of good and evil and the difference thereof. http://community.webshots.com/user/ollieogg >> I'm with you Rosemary, I could not sleep at night thinking that my babies >> were stuck in a cage with no means of escape just to feed a snake. [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > > Rosemary the sad truth is that people have decided to keep snakes and large lizards as pets. you ladies love to go on about how people disrespect you when you tell them that you own rats. do you you think that people who choose to keep snakes as pets deserve to be disrespected? >>> I'm with you Rosemary, I could not sleep at night thinking that my >>> babies were stuck in a cage with no means of escape just to feed a [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > tell them that you own rats. do you you think that people who choose to > keep snakes as pets deserve to be disrespected? What in my post indicated to you I disrespect reptile owners? I disrespect reptile owners who choose to endanger their pet and inflict unnecessary suffering on feed animals by feeding live animals to their pets. Rosemary >>> Good question. I'm pretty new to rats, but I wanted females because >>> they don't scent mark as much. I had also heard they were more [quoted text clipped - 33 lines] > > Rosemary rosemary, i have been doing this for along time. if it bothers you that i don't break down in tears everytime i sell a batch to the pet store then, excuse me, but tough sh.t. of all of the rats that i have sold over time, i am certain that many of them have ended up in loving homes with little children or older rat people who have been greatful that i socialized my babies so well. if i would choose to dwell upon the the fate of past litters then this is what i would choose to dwell upon. you have no right to tell me whether i should or should not breed rats. >>>> Good question. I'm pretty new to rats, but I wanted females because >>>> they don't scent mark as much. I had also heard they were more [quoted text clipped - 43 lines] > litters then this is what i would choose to dwell upon. you have no right > to tell me whether i should or should not breed rats. My opinion is my opinion. You support the live food trade. I think this is bad. You don't mind. Don't tell me my rights. Rosemary "rat lord", Bloody hell! Lets see, you seem very proud of your ability to dominate rats! Can't you see the absurdity of that alone? Rhetorical question, the answer is obvious. What else... You carry on about rat faeces (eg several references to dapper rat and raisins plus other references). You have implied that you disapprove of people who take the soft and sentimental approach to rat care (care being the operative word here as opposed to dominance).You have resorted to pointing out that you have better rats in an attempt to justify your behaviour. You also seem proud of your ability to disconnect from rats that have not pleased you (I'm referring to the ones you send to the pet store). So lets see. Control freak, clean freak, the need to punish when things don't go your way, arrogant, rigid and egotistical. Hmmm... I'm sure there's a label for this. Quite frankly, you really do come across as an insecure, deficient human being. I seriously pity any children you raise. I really mean that. Lal. > > You shouldn't breed rats. You obviously don't care enough what happens to > > them. [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > then this is what i would choose to dwell upon. you have no right to tell me > whether i should or should not breed rats. Why do you not buy older Rats? I have had 11 rats that were ranging in age from 9 months through to 15 months. They all needed kisses and cuddles. SignatureJackie - <:_)~ and the Boys, Ronald, Scratch, Rupert and Wilbur, Toffee, Bonker and Chewy. http://community.webshots.com/user/mullins9 > >> Good question. I'm pretty new to rats, but I wanted females because [quoted text clipped - 29 lines] > browsing have i ever some across the orange colored rats ( my favs) , but > they were too old and i never buy older rats. > Why do you not buy older Rats? they take too much effort to train. i find that 5-6 weekers are the best. my little ones go to the store at this age so that potential owners can experience the easy way in which the young ones bond with them. i am not opposed to people buying older rats. with patience and understanding, older rats can be very good pets too. it's just not for me. I have had 11 rats that were ranging in age > from 9 months through to 15 months. They all needed kisses and cuddles. >> [quoted text clipped - 30 lines] >> browsing have i ever some across the orange colored rats ( my favs) , but >> they were too old and i never buy older rats. are sold > as snake food. poor little guys. You can do something about that, stop selling your babies to pet stores. SignatureJoanne Owned by 22 rats. Webshots: http://community.webshots.com/user/joanneb70 ------------------------------------------------------- ~Ignorance is not innocence but sin. *Robert Browning* > are sold >> as snake food. poor little guys. > > You can do something about that, stop selling your babies to pet stores. what about those people who do actually buy them for pets? without my rats they would most likely be sold rats that were bred by a feed-breeder who never handled them at all. my rats are a superior product for the pet owner because they have been raised with lots of handling and care. when i have > a batch of erasers, i put them in my hand from just a few days old. my > current batch has had almost daily hand contact and they are currently about [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > actually find people to look after them. most of them, i am told, are sold > as snake food. poor little guys. I guess snakes have to eat too, but I admit that I would have a real problem selling rats I had bred and raised to a pet store that sold them as food. It sounds like you work hard to get them to trust humans, and then they get eaten. At that moment, they must be so ... disillusioned. Sentimentality aside, it does seem like an exercise in futility to spend so much energy socializing baby rats for them to end up as an entree. Kim > when i have >> a batch of erasers, i put them in my hand from just a few days old. my [quoted text clipped - 19 lines] > > Kim like i said above, it's the ones that do go as pets that make it worthwhile. besides, i enjoy playing with them and handling them. i don't look at it as work. it's playtime. [pet shops & snake food] > like i said above, it's the ones that do go as pets that make it worthwhile. > besides, i enjoy playing with them and handling them. i don't look at it as > work. it's playtime. Okay - a question I don't think I've read anyone ask: Why do you sell to pet shops that will sell some of your rats as live food? What about other possible options such as selling to individuals wanting pet rats, going via any of the rehoming organisations/groups suggested such as http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Canada-Rat-Adoption/ or even just selling to pet shops that are less likely to sell rats as food? I would never cull, but even that has to be a better option than being eaten alive, surely? SignatureMichael m r o z a t u k g a t e w a y d o t n e t The post from Hylourgos is actually from me, Ratmommy. Sorry. I forgot to log in to my friend's computer before posting. Kim > i've found females to be affectionate and clean. > > ( i own both males and females) I actually like both my males and females for different reasons. The male rats are great lap rats. They love to just curl up on your lap and fall asleep while you are scritching them. It's very therapeutic! The female rats are just unbelievably affectionate. Everytime I put my hand in the cage, they attack it with kisses and do everything they can to get on me or be held or whatever. It's something that touches my heart everytime I pick them up. Best animals I've ever had. The thing that sucks is that they are with us for such a short time. I know the time to say goodbye is going to come far too quickly. Best Regards, --Hank Stalica I love females, they are so lively and enterprising but I changed to males when I lost so many girls from tumours. > i've found females to be affectionate and clean. > > ( i own both males and females) > i've found females to be affectionate and clean. > > ( i own both males and females) I have only boys and have only ever had boys...(this may change in the near future). I chose them because of the lower tumor rates and the fact that they become cuddlier as they get older, they smell good to me, and they make my Husband jealous...LOL Regards Kate SignatureToday I may meet with injustice, ignorance, denial, all of which are due entirely to the other's lack of knowledge of good and evil and the difference thereof. http://community.webshots.com/user/ollieogg >> i've found females to be affectionate and clean. >> [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > > Regards Kate but what about all of the extra pee? it is nice though how they love to just sit and chill out. their extra weight and size is cool too. |
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