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The Rat Lord - 03 Aug 2006 10:02 GMT

...of a good site where i can easily post pics of my rats, please tell me. i
enjoy looking at pics of other peoples' rats as well. especially the babies.

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The Rat Lord - 20 Aug 2006 02:53 GMT

hmmm, not much of a community here i guess.

> ...of a good site where i can easily post pics of my rats, please tell me.
> i enjoy looking at pics of other peoples' rats as well. especially the
> babies.

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Michael Rozdoba - 20 Aug 2006 13:56 GMT

> hmmm, not much of a community here i guess.
>
>> ...of a good site where i can easily post pics of my rats, please tell me.
>> i enjoy looking at pics of other peoples' rats as well. especially the
>> babies.

I forget the urls, but people often post links to their pictures on such
sites, which I imagine you could also sign up to. Webshots comes to mind.

I've not bothered, myself, as I have a couple of sites I've been meaning
to install my own gallery software on - I've just run out of round tuits
atm, as usual.

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NRen2k5 - 21 Aug 2006 13:05 GMT

>> hmmm, not much of a community here i guess.
>>
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> to install my own gallery software on - I've just run out of round tuits
> atm, as usual.

My recommendation is to make your own gallery on your own site, but to
actually host the image files on ImageShack.US rather than on the web
server. That way, if you get a lot of people viewing your pictures, it
won't use up your website's bandwidth.

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Michael Rozdoba - 21 Aug 2006 15:14 GMT

>> I've not bothered, myself, as I have a couple of sites I've been
>> meaning to install my own gallery software on - I've just run out
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> web server. That way, if you get a lot of people viewing your
> pictures, it won't use up your website's bandwidth.

I figured no one would bother viewing them so it wouldn't be a problem ;(

That said, I ought to give your suggestion serious consideration.
Doesn't it breach ImageShack's T&C? I can't imagine they'd like someone
using their bandwidth without users getting to see their advertising...

<goes aways & reads boring legal stuff>

Interesting. So they prefer you to use thumbnail links which lead to
their quite intrusive advertising (graphic links surrounding the target
image & pop ups), but they do allow hot linking directly to uploaded
image content so one can avoid the ads.

I'm still a little suspicious as I don't understand their business model
& why they aren't being exploited. Are you aware of any
problems/short-comings/catches?

There's only one point I'm not clear on.

T&C 2 Terms of Service includes: "Changing ImageShack® linking codes is
prohibited without prior permission."

Linking codes include (using a specific image by way of example):

Hotlink for websites: (*)
<a href="http://imageshack.us"><img
src="http://img291.imageshack.us/img291/2306/tinaobrien789coronationstreet090806sj7.jpg"
border="0" alt="Image Hosted by ImageShack.us" /></a>

Direct link to image: (#)
http://img291.imageshack.us/img291/2306/tinaobrien789coronationstreet090806sj7.jpg

I take T&C 2 above to imply one can't change the above or use linking
code not in their list.

What I'm not clear on is if the direct link (# above) to an image can be
used on a website or rather merely used within, say, personal emails,
news posts & so on with the Hotlink code (* above) required for website
use (thus supplying imageshack with some non-intrusive advertising, not
unreasonably, whenever you embed the image (see $ below)).

At first I thought their FAQ implied # could be used on a website:

> Does ImageShack® allow direct linking?
>
> Yes, ImageShack® does allow embedding full-size images into websites
> and online auctions. However, in order for ImageShack® to continue
> providing free image hosting, we ask that you use clickable
> thumbnails whenever possible.

However now I'm more inclined to think they're using 'direct linking' in
a different way above to in their T&C & that the direct linking
reference in the FAQ actually refers to use of the hotlink code at (*)
above.

($) Why am I asking this (aside from me being anal)?

Simply as some pre existing Gallery software won't allow images to be
presented as links, which (*) requires.

Also, if one is concerned with accessibility issues, (*) above abuses
the use of the alt attribute & would reduce accessibility.

Any ideas?

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NRen2k5 - 21 Aug 2006 21:37 GMT

>>> I've not bothered, myself, as I have a couple of sites I've been
>>> meaning to install my own gallery software on - I've just run out
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>
> Any ideas?

I would not bother with fancy gallery software. I would just throw the
thumbnails onto a home-made webpage and line them up nicely using tables
or styles.

Here:
http://img247.imageshack.us/img247/8423/imageshackfy0.jpg

What I would do, to keep ImageShack happy, is use the "thumbnail code"
"for sites", for example:
<a href="http://img106.imageshack.us/my.php?image=narutosteals2to2.gif"
target="_blank"><img
src="http://img106.imageshack.us/img106/5721/narutosteals2to2.th.gif"
border="0" /></a>

I would also add a target="_blank" to the link, so that the link will
open in a new browser window. That way whoever's browsing the gallery
will keep Imageshack happy, but not always have to press their browser's
Back button... they can just close the tab or window.

That way I'm happy, ImageShack is happy, and the site's visitors are happy.

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Michael Rozdoba - 21 Aug 2006 21:55 GMT

> I would not bother with fancy gallery software. I would just throw the
> thumbnails onto a home-made webpage and line them up nicely using tables
> or styles.

Maybe. I've not decided.

> Here:
> http://img247.imageshack.us/img247/8423/imageshackfy0.jpg

Thanks.

> What I would do, to keep ImageShack happy, is use the "thumbnail code"
> "for sites", for example:
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> I would also add a target="_blank" to the link, so that the link will
> open in a new browser window.

I'm not keen on removing control from the user. I'd let them decide
whether to open a link in a new window or not (two clicks in Firefox
rather than one - not much work).

> That way whoever's browsing the gallery
> will keep Imageshack happy, but not always have to press their browser's
> Back button... they can just close the tab or window.
>
> That way I'm happy, ImageShack is happy, and the site's visitors are happy.

Happy is good :)

Thanks for the ideas. I've mailed ImageShack to see if they have
anything to say about their use of the Alt attribute.

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Michael Rozdoba - 22 Aug 2006 17:42 GMT

> Thanks for the ideas. I've mailed ImageShack to see if they have
> anything to say about their use of the Alt attribute.

Their restriction on not changing link code is qualified by "without
permission". I offered to link each gallery page to their site &
prominently credit them for the image hosting; they replied I could
alter the code as I liked :)

All in all they seem to offer a very useful service. I still don't know
how they make money out of it, but I shan't complain :)

Thanks very much for pointing me at them in the first place.

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NRen2k5 - 23 Aug 2006 10:39 GMT

>> Thanks for the ideas. I've mailed ImageShack to see if they have
>> anything to say about their use of the Alt attribute.
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> All in all they seem to offer a very useful service. I still don't know
> how they make money out of it, but I shan't complain :)

Ad revenue from all the silly people who don't know how to make their
own links and so dutifully use the provided ones.

Believe me, you can get filthy rich off of ad revenue alone. Take Eric
Bauman for example. He's a pathetic little man who built a "fun" site
full of plagiarized content, and now he has a collection of Ferraris.

> Thanks very much for pointing me at them in the first place.

You're welcome. :)

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