Hello. My Chewey just finished her surgery to remove a mammary tumor.
She's getting fixed at the same time. So far so good. I have concerns
because she's older. I actually don't know how old she really is, I
think 15-16 months.
Here are my questions:
1. I have a question about surgery.... I've read it's better if the vet
gives them gas for anesthesia rather than injectables. True?
2. At what age is it still beneficial to fix girls to help prevent
mammary tumors? My little girls are about 13 months.
I don't know if I've formally introduced myself. I live in North
Dakota, USA. We have three girls: Chewey, Darla and Buttons, and two
boys: Tonka and Buster. We lost our third boy, the sweetest little guy
named Chip, in May. I'm currently learning how to use iMovie in my new
computer to edit a video in memory of Chip. It was the hardest thing
and I've questioned whether I'm strong enough to have rats with their
short little life spans. I find them to be much cooler than most cats
and dogs I've ever had.
In a previous post, I asked your opinion about what antibiotics to try
next. We ended up with Enroflaxin and Doxycycline, trying to get rid of
sneezes, congestion and gunky red stuff around and eye. I think the
girls are feeling a bit better. This will probably be a long-term thing.
Anyway, nice to meet you all and I'm enjoying reading your posts.
-Marlo
Marlo - 12 Aug 2006 01:09 GMT
3. Is there any kind of painkiller I can give Chewey to help her be more
comfortable? She's still coming out of the anesthesia but she looks
really uncomfortable and out of it. Poor baby. My vet is an hour away,
so it's not so easy to drive there to get stuff.
Thanks!
-Marlo
Joanne - 12 Aug 2006 01:23 GMT
> Hello. My Chewey just finished her surgery to remove a mammary tumor.
> She's getting fixed at the same time. So far so good. I have concerns
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>
> -Marlo
Hi Marlo!! It's a wise idea to get her spayed at the same time of tumor
removal. For full benefit, it should be fairly young, I remember reading
something about 2 months or something like that. But I've had my girls
spayed at all ages and it all helped. I've had my Loki and Ness spayed
at 18 months and they are both approaching 28 months and still no tumors.
I do believe gas is better when putting under but don't quote me on that.
You can ask for Metacam for your girls, this will help them recover with
minimal pain.
Welcome to the group!!

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Marlo - 12 Aug 2006 04:10 GMT
Hi Joanne. Thank you for your input. I'm glad to know your older girls
did okay with spaying.
It's now about 13 hours after surgery and boy, is Chewey looking rough.
Her waist is way skinnier, I suppose now that she is tumor and
uterus-less. And she is moving slow. I put her cage on the floor and
gave her a little water in a dish, I don't think she's into going up for
the water bottle at the moment. She drank a little.... very gingerly
waddled out and to the corner where she laid and readjusted a lot, she
ate a little piece of bread with some of her antibiotic and then
eventually waddled back to her cage. It's heartbreaking! I wonder how
long until she perks up? God, it's like having a baby that's ill!
>> Hello. My Chewey just finished her surgery to remove a mammary tumor.
>> She's getting fixed at the same time. So far so good. I have
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> minimal pain.
> Welcome to the group!!
Joanne - 12 Aug 2006 13:51 GMT
> Hi Joanne. Thank you for your input. I'm glad to know your older girls
> did okay with spaying.
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> eventually waddled back to her cage. It's heartbreaking! I wonder how
> long until she perks up? God, it's like having a baby that's ill!
I know... it's really hard seeing them like this.
At her age, it could take a week for her to be right back to her full
self. You may see her do some stretches or contortions, this is normal,
they all do this and it's usually out of pain. :(
If you can get some soya milk, this seems to be a big treat after
surgery and easily lapped up. What you want to look for is good poops
and eating ok. And don't worry if she does a lot of sleeping.

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Marlo - 17 Aug 2006 04:33 GMT
It took my old girl a couple of days, but she has her pep back. I'm
very happy with how she's recovering. But now I'm worried about
Buttons. She has a nose whistle and hid in the cardboard tube during
play time. I have her on Enroflaxin, but to be fair, she hasn't been
getting it all. I put it on bread and sometimes she doesn't eat it all.
I have to figure out how to force feed it to her, I guess. It's
supposed to be marshmallow flavored, but she's not buying it.
Anyway, just wanted everyone to know how Chewey was doing. Shwew.
That's a sigh of relief.
Thanks!
Hope your rats are well, Marlo
Star Nicole - 17 Aug 2006 21:26 GMT
I didn't even know rats could be spayed. Never thought about it before.
What does your vet think about doing this Surgery?
I went to a vet when I was younger for my rat who had a tumor on her
tail and the vet wouldn't do anything for her.
I thought maybe he would do surgery to take her tail off but he didn't
do anything...
I need to find a good vet around my town.
Marlo - 20 Aug 2006 19:18 GMT
Hi. Yes, girls can be fixed. From what I've read on here and elsewhere,
it cuts down on their risk of tumors, but the younger, the better. My
vet has done a little research and has successfully spayed Chewey and
neutered Buster. Also from what I understand, most vets don't have a
lot of training for rats. Not a very profitable business, I suppose.
Our vet is willing to do some research. We found a vet in a larger city
who is willing to offer us advice and confer with our vet. Not as easy
as having a dog, I know.
My hubby has been force feeding Buttons enroflaxin for her resp.
infection. It causes her a few sneezes and that gunky red stuff around
her eye. She is not happy about being force fed. HOWEVER, this
morning, I had her on my shoulder and was preparing to hand her off to
my husband, and I saw a donut on the counter. I took a little piece and
squeezed some medicine onto it. She ate it up like a pro. We did this
for several pieces until the medicine was gone. Yay! No more squeeks
and squirming and refusing to swallow until it spills all over her face!
> I didn't even know rats could be spayed. Never thought about it before.
>
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>
> I need to find a good vet around my town.
Anonymous - 12 Aug 2006 07:02 GMT
Hi Joanne. Thank you for your input. I'm glad to know your olde
girls
did okay with spaying
It's now about 13 hours after surgery and boy, is Chewey lookin
rough.
Her waist is way skinnier, I suppose now that she is tumor and
uterus-less. And she is moving slow. I put her cage on the floor an
gave her a little water in a dish, I don't think she's into going u
for
the water bottle at the moment. She drank a little.... very gingerly
waddled out and to the corner where she laid and readjusted a lot, sh
ate a little piece of bread with some of her antibiotic and then
eventually waddled back to her cage. It's heartbreaking! I wonde
how
long until she perks up? God, it's like having a baby that's ill
Joanne wrote
> Marlo wrote
> Hello. My Chewey just finished her surgery to remove a mammar
tumor
> She's getting fixed at the same time. So far so good. I hav
> concerns because she's older. I actually don't know how old sh
[quoted text clipped - 9 lines]
> I don't know if I've formally introduced myself. I live in Nort
> Dakota, USA. We have three girls: Chewey, Darla and Buttons, an
tw
> boys: Tonka and Buster. We lost our third boy, the sweetest littl
> guy named Chip, in May. I'm currently learning how to use iMovie i
> my new computer to edit a video in memory of Chip. It was th
hardes
> thing and I've questioned whether I'm strong enough to have rat
wit
> their short little life spans. I find them to be much cooler tha
> most cats and dogs I've ever had
>
> In a previous post, I asked your opinion about what antibiotics t
tr
> next. We ended up with Enroflaxin and Doxycycline, trying to ge
ri
> of sneezes, congestion and gunky red stuff around and eye. I thin
> the girls are feeling a bit better. This will probably be
long-ter
> thing
>
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
>
> Hi Marlo!! It's a wise idea to get her spayed at the same time o
tumo
> removal. For full benefit, it should be fairly young, I remembe
readin
> something about 2 months or something like that. But I've had m
girl
> spayed at all ages and it all helped. I've had my Loki and Nes
spaye
> at 18 months and they are both approaching 28 months and still n
tumors
> I do believe gas is better when putting under but don't quote me o
that
> You can ask for Metacam for your girls, this will help them recove
wit
> minimal pain
> Welcome to the group!
Anonymous - 12 Aug 2006 07:02 GMT
Hi Joanne. Thank you for your input. I'm glad to know your olde
girls
did okay with spaying
It's now about 13 hours after surgery and boy, is Chewey lookin
rough.
Her waist is way skinnier, I suppose now that she is tumor and
uterus-less. And she is moving slow. I put her cage on the floor an
gave her a little water in a dish, I don't think she's into going u
for
the water bottle at the moment. She drank a little.... very gingerly
waddled out and to the corner where she laid and readjusted a lot, sh
ate a little piece of bread with some of her antibiotic and then
eventually waddled back to her cage. It's heartbreaking! I wonde
how
long until she perks up? God, it's like having a baby that's ill
Joanne wrote
> Marlo wrote
> Hello. My Chewey just finished her surgery to remove a mammar
tumor
> She's getting fixed at the same time. So far so good. I hav
> concerns because she's older. I actually don't know how old sh
[quoted text clipped - 9 lines]
> I don't know if I've formally introduced myself. I live in Nort
> Dakota, USA. We have three girls: Chewey, Darla and Buttons, an
tw
> boys: Tonka and Buster. We lost our third boy, the sweetest littl
> guy named Chip, in May. I'm currently learning how to use iMovie i
> my new computer to edit a video in memory of Chip. It was th
hardes
> thing and I've questioned whether I'm strong enough to have rat
wit
> their short little life spans. I find them to be much cooler tha
> most cats and dogs I've ever had
>
> In a previous post, I asked your opinion about what antibiotics t
tr
> next. We ended up with Enroflaxin and Doxycycline, trying to ge
ri
> of sneezes, congestion and gunky red stuff around and eye. I thin
> the girls are feeling a bit better. This will probably be
long-ter
> thing
>
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
>
> Hi Marlo!! It's a wise idea to get her spayed at the same time o
tumo
> removal. For full benefit, it should be fairly young, I remembe
readin
> something about 2 months or something like that. But I've had m
girl
> spayed at all ages and it all helped. I've had my Loki and Nes
spaye
> at 18 months and they are both approaching 28 months and still n
tumors
> I do believe gas is better when putting under but don't quote me o
that
> You can ask for Metacam for your girls, this will help them recove
wit
> minimal pain
> Welcome to the group!
Anonymous - 12 Aug 2006 07:02 GMT
Hi Joanne. Thank you for your input. I'm glad to know your olde
girls
did okay with spaying
It's now about 13 hours after surgery and boy, is Chewey lookin
rough.
Her waist is way skinnier, I suppose now that she is tumor and
uterus-less. And she is moving slow. I put her cage on the floor an
gave her a little water in a dish, I don't think she's into going u
for
the water bottle at the moment. She drank a little.... very gingerly
waddled out and to the corner where she laid and readjusted a lot, sh
ate a little piece of bread with some of her antibiotic and then
eventually waddled back to her cage. It's heartbreaking! I wonde
how
long until she perks up? God, it's like having a baby that's ill
Joanne wrote
> Marlo wrote
> Hello. My Chewey just finished her surgery to remove a mammar
tumor
> She's getting fixed at the same time. So far so good. I hav
> concerns because she's older. I actually don't know how old sh
[quoted text clipped - 9 lines]
> I don't know if I've formally introduced myself. I live in Nort
> Dakota, USA. We have three girls: Chewey, Darla and Buttons, an
tw
> boys: Tonka and Buster. We lost our third boy, the sweetest littl
> guy named Chip, in May. I'm currently learning how to use iMovie i
> my new computer to edit a video in memory of Chip. It was th
hardes
> thing and I've questioned whether I'm strong enough to have rat
wit
> their short little life spans. I find them to be much cooler tha
> most cats and dogs I've ever had
>
> In a previous post, I asked your opinion about what antibiotics t
tr
> next. We ended up with Enroflaxin and Doxycycline, trying to ge
ri
> of sneezes, congestion and gunky red stuff around and eye. I thin
> the girls are feeling a bit better. This will probably be
long-ter
> thing
>
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
>
> Hi Marlo!! It's a wise idea to get her spayed at the same time o
tumo
> removal. For full benefit, it should be fairly young, I remembe
readin
> something about 2 months or something like that. But I've had m
girl
> spayed at all ages and it all helped. I've had my Loki and Nes
spaye
> at 18 months and they are both approaching 28 months and still n
tumors
> I do believe gas is better when putting under but don't quote me o
that
> You can ask for Metacam for your girls, this will help them recove
wit
> minimal pain
> Welcome to the group!