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Pet Forum / Mammals / Rats / March 2007Help! Anesthetic recovery?
Hi. Buster just had surgery today to remove a cyst. He went under at about 11:30. Now, 5.5 hours later, he's still totally sedated. He is breathing but not responding in any other way. My vet is 50 miles away. She said I could bring him in to inject fluids to help him metabolize the anesthetic but she didn't say it was critical. Buster has had surgery before, he was neutered in June or so of 2006. Two of my other rats have had one surgery-one male neutered, one female mammary tumor removed and spayed. In previous surgeries, the rats went in first thing in the morning and when I picked them up in late afternoon, they were still very groggy. The vet said that it just takes them awhile. My vet is a rural N.D. vet, not a rat expert, but she's very good and we've had success before. She suggested keeping him warm with a towel and a water bottle, which I've been doing, stimulating him, rubbing him and talking to him. Help! Is this normal? Is there anything else I can do to help him wake up? I'm really scared. Anesthetic was injectable, my vet does not have gas capability. Okay, finally he's coming around about 8.5 hours later. What a relief. The vet had us rub caro syrup on his gums and then rub him and talk to him to stimulate him. I was very scared. So I think we're good to go now. I was so freaked out I was crying. This is my first batch of rats. We lost one last May. With their short little lives, I wonder if I'm strong enough for this! But I love them so much. Anyway, thanks for reading (listening). -Marlo > Hi. Buster just had surgery today to remove a cyst. He went under at > about 11:30. Now, 5.5 hours later, he's still totally sedated. He is [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > to help him wake up? I'm really scared. Anesthetic was injectable, my > vet does not have gas capability. > Okay, finally he's coming around about 8.5 hours later. What a relief. > The vet had us rub caro syrup on his gums and then rub him and talk to [quoted text clipped - 22 lines] >> really scared. Anesthetic was injectable, my vet does not have gas >> capability. OMG Marlo.. I'm so sorry you had to go through that. I would have been a basket case. Any chance you can find a rat savvy vet for future needs? Where abouts are you?  SignatureJoanne Owned by 24 rats. Webshots: http://community.webshots.com/user/joanneb70 ------------------------------------------------------- ~Ignorance is not innocence but sin. *Robert Browning* > Okay, finally he's coming around about 8.5 hours later. What a > relief. Yay! I honestly didn't have a clue about how to solve your problem. I think next time it might be an idea to go to a vet who uses gas anaesthetic rather than injectable. Gentle scritches to Buster. SignatureRatty Hugs & Cavy Kisses Jackie Ably Hindered by The Buck House Crew "Behavioral psychology is the science of pulling habits out of rats." Dr. Douglas Busch Thank God that had a happy ending !!! I lost one of my boys due to the affects of aesthetic..:( He didn't seem to come right out of it at all. He was able to stumble a few steps and then collapse and fall asleep again. He passed away in the night. If this ever happened again I would keep him warm and also put his head inside a jam jar so he can breathe in his own carbon dioxide? which is suppose to stimulate the brain. I know this sounds very odd but an old Vet we had when I was a kid recommended this for my Mums dog who wouldn't come out of aesthetic soon enough ( the dog had had a leg amputated) he recommended this and it did indeed work. It is something just to keep in the back of the mind when there isn't help available at hand. Regards Kate, Patrick, Mater and Bob the bossyknickers Bunny! > Okay, finally he's coming around about 8.5 hours later. What a relief. > The vet had us rub caro syrup on his gums and then rub him and talk to him [quoted text clipped - 21 lines] >> up? I'm really scared. Anesthetic was injectable, my vet does not have >> gas capability. Buster is up and at 'em today. Ugh. Carbon dioxide, that's interesting. I've never heard of that. Isn't it devastating when we lose them? I said thank you to my vet for treating my rats like they're real pets, even though they are not cats or dogs. Not everyone understands. I wish I had access to a vet that could use gas, but I live in rural N.D. and the closest city is 8 hours away. My husband started rubbing Buster and talking to him a lot more aggressively than what I was doing and that seemed to wake him up. I was debating about jumping in the car and driving 50 miles on icy roads to get fluids injected but Joe started getting some responses from Buster, so I didn't. Then he woke up. Then I cried. Thank you, Marlo > Thank God that had a happy ending !!! I lost one of my boys due to the > affects of aesthetic..:( He didn't seem to come right out of it at all. He [quoted text clipped - 33 lines] >>> up? I'm really scared. Anesthetic was injectable, my vet does not have >>> gas capability. > Buster is up and at 'em today. Ugh. Carbon dioxide, that's interesting. > I've never heard of that. Isn't it devastating when we lose them? I said [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > responses from Buster, so I didn't. Then he woke up. Then I cried. > Thank you, Marlo It's so good to hear he's ok! Tracey I'm glad Buster picked up. What a relief! Did your other rats who underwent surgery receive the same injectable anesthetic? Dewi Yes, they've all got injectable. It takes them awhile to come out of it. Normally I would drop them off first thing in the morning and then by the time I pick them up in later afternoon, they're starting to wake up. But Buster's surgery was later in the morning and I picked him up about two hours later. Scary, though. Buster's doing fine now. He's his active, squirmy self that just doesn't want to be petted, thank you very much. If only he knew I had him inside my shirt while he was unconscious! He'd be so offended. -Marlo > I'm glad Buster picked up. What a relief! Did your other rats who > underwent surgery receive the same injectable anesthetic? > > Dewi Most vets here in the UK now have started using gas, Isoflurane for anaesthetics. its a lot safer for animals, and they come out of it really fast. I'm surprised to hear that vets are still using injectable anaesthetics. Signaturehttp://www.furrycritters.co.uk http://community.webshots.com/user/jakewc2 > Yes, they've all got injectable. It takes them awhile to come out of it. > Normally I would drop them off first thing in the morning and then by the [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] >> >> Dewi I wish our vet would do it. She doesn't have the equipment, even. Rural North Dakota, USA, where they work on cows and dogs. We don't have anywhere else to take the rats, but she is a good vet, is willing to do research, etc. It's frustrating, though. > Most vets here in the UK now have started using gas, Isoflurane for > anaesthetics. its a lot safer for animals, and they come out of it really > fast. I'm surprised to hear that vets are still using injectable > anaesthetics. |
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