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Pet Forum / Mammals / Rats / April 2007We got new babies
I cannot properly explain how beautiful they are or their types, just let me tell you we got 5. Yep, we are nuts...giggle. We do go to a pet shop, but they get babies from folks that have babies accidentally or cannot take care, etc. It is just a local business that is always happy to sell their little ones to people for pets. I have gotten my kids from them for years and I always get the most wonderful children from them. They really care about their little ones and will not sell before they are ready or unhealthy. I will get pics and post up to my flickr account ASAP. I finally got around to doing that, LOL. BTW, the 2 old boys I have seem to love the babies. We are of course, in 2 separate cages for a bit, but the big boys act like big daddies when they visit the kids. It looks like it is going to be an easy transition. Yippee. HUGS!  SignatureEnjoy, Lynn "kitty" > I cannot properly explain how beautiful they are or their types, just let me > tell you we got 5. Yep, we are nuts...giggle. [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > > HUGS! It so great to know that there are some stores out there that really do care. It's great that they help out with rescues and not sell for feeders. CongRATS on the new littles... 5!!! wow, so much fun! SignatureJoanne Owned by 22 rats. Webshots: http://community.webshots.com/user/joanneb70 ------------------------------------------------------- ~Ignorance is not innocence but sin. *Robert Browning* the rats in your latest photos look so happy. they must be living the good life :) >> I cannot properly explain how beautiful they are or their types, just let >> me tell you we got 5. Yep, we are nuts...giggle. [quoted text clipped - 19 lines] > care. It's great that they help out with rescues and not sell for feeders. > CongRATS on the new littles... 5!!! wow, so much fun! Oh YES they are. Giggles, Lynn the rats in your latest photos look so happy. they must be living the good life :) > It so great to know that there are some stores out there that really > do care. It's great that they help out with rescues and not sell for > feeders. CongRATS on the new littles... 5!!! wow, so much fun! I'm not sure it's legal in the UK to sell live rats as feeders. I've certainly never once seen live rats sold as feeders in the UK (though I've seen frozen "pinkies" and sometimes frozen adult rats), and I've been in plenty of reptile shops and scabby pet-shops. Out of interest, how much does a rat usually cost in a pet shop in other countries? Here in S.E. England they usually cost around £7 (about $14 US), or slightly more for a dumbo, usually with a small discount if you buy 2 or 3, to encourage people not to keep a lone rat. Rosemary Hello dear, yes, you can buy live rats here for feeders here where I live in Washington State, U.S. It is not a pleasant thought.. Our little fellows who are just past weaning, were 3.99 U.S. It is a dollar more for the hairless that age. For the more mature it is 6.99 U.S. But these are the prices at my little independent shop. At PETCO, horrid place, they want 6.99 for the wee ones and 9.99 for the more mature. Regards, Lynn Joanne wrote: > It so great to know that there are some stores out there that really > do care. It's great that they help out with rescues and not sell for > feeders. CongRATS on the new littles... 5!!! wow, so much fun! I'm not sure it's legal in the UK to sell live rats as feeders. I've certainly never once seen live rats sold as feeders in the UK (though I've seen frozen "pinkies" and sometimes frozen adult rats), and I've been in plenty of reptile shops and scabby pet-shops. Out of interest, how much does a rat usually cost in a pet shop in other countries? Here in S.E. England they usually cost around £7 (about $14 US), or slightly more for a dumbo, usually with a small discount if you buy 2 or 3, to encourage people not to keep a lone rat. Rosemary "Lynn \"kitty\"" wrote: > Hello dear, > yes, you can buy live rats here for feeders here where I live in > Washington State, U.S. It is not a pleasant thought.. I think live feeding in general is less frowned upon in the States than in the UK. I know that many owners of carnivorous fish in the US are happy to feed their large cichlids etc.on "feeder" guppies - someone even invented a dispenser that released a few at a time so as to be more convenient for the owner. It's not even good for the carnivore fish - many which are fed live prey seem to get malnutrition since they're just not getting the variety of prey, before you even get into the matter of whether it's fair on the prey fish to be kept in a tiny holding tank then released into another tank where there's no method of escape from the predators. Then there's the question of parasites, etc. . I think most UK fishkeepers draw the line at feeding anything more than live daphnia and bloodworm, and even that can be risky. I just can't understand why reptile keepers don't care about their own pet's health and well-being enough to keep them safe from being bitten and scratched by mice and rats. I'm sure it goes on in the UK too, just more underground perhaps, and people breeding their own supply of rodents. > Our little fellows who are just past weaning, were 3.99 U.S. It is a > dollar more for the hairless that age. For the more mature it is 6.99 > U.S. But these are the prices at my little independent shop. At PETCO, > horrid place, they want 6.99 for the wee ones and 9.99 for the more > mature. Whew, that's cheap. That's what, from £2 for a baby rat up to £5 for an older one? Here the age doesn't seem to matter when it comes to price, though special varieties sometimes cost a little more. I think the cost of a pet rat ought to at least cover the cost of raising the kittens in a reasonably decent environment, and I'm not sure $3.99 covers it - though of course, you probably pay less for food and bedding over there. That's the price for rats intended as pets, I assume, not for rats intended as feeders? Rosemary > "Lynn \"kitty\"" wrote: > [quoted text clipped - 38 lines] > > Rosemary Sadly, it's the same thing in Canada. The best we can do is boycott those stores that do sell feeders. And they sure go for cheap. I've seen some sell for $2 CAD for the baby feeders. :( You would think since we are part of the commonwealth, we'd be following in your footsteps with animal rights and proper care. Breaks my heart... SignatureJoanne Owned by 22 rats. Webshots: http://community.webshots.com/user/joanneb70 ------------------------------------------------------- ~Ignorance is not innocence but sin. *Robert Browning* >> <snip: live feeding> > [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > in your footsteps with animal rights and proper care. Breaks my > heart... I'm not sure that in general we have better animal rights etc. in the UK. I don't know too much about how things are in Canada, but I've seen plenty of TV programmes highlighling the appalling treatment of cheap broiler chickens and other poultry here. I've also seen a programme called "Life Of Grime", which was a kind of documentary following the work of public health officials, in which the council pest controller considered it perfectly acceptable to kill a rat stuck in a dustbin/trashcan using an air-gun, with no comment being made in the programme that this wasn't the right way to go about things. Wild rats and mice seem to get no protection from cruel pest control methods here. They would never use the pest control measures with something like grey squirrels (major pest) that they're happy to inflict on rats. Grrrr. Rosemary It is not a pleasant thing, live feeders, but I do believe that most Americans are oblivious to the practice. Unless you are involved in the fringe type pet, that rats and snakes are, one does not think about what is involved in their care, etc. Thank you for telling us about your country's practices. We all need to be more aware, Lynn Joanne wrote: > Rosemary wrote: >> <snip: live feeding> >>><snip: live feeding> >> [quoted text clipped - 22 lines] > > Rosemary That is so sad. :( SignatureJoanne Owned by 22 rats. Webshots: http://community.webshots.com/user/joanneb70 ------------------------------------------------------- ~Ignorance is not innocence but sin. *Robert Browning* [snip] > Out of interest, how much does a rat usually cost in a pet shop in > other countries? Here in S.E. England they usually cost around £7 > (about $14 US), or slightly more for a dumbo, usually with a small > discount if you buy 2 or 3, to encourage people not to keep a lone > rat. Good heavens - our local (UK) pet shop charges about twenty pounds *each*; presumably with the intention of discouraging impulse buying... For six or seven pounds you might get a hamster. (I'm pretty sure it's forbidden to feed live rodents to a snake, on the grounds that they have a nasty tendency, if not consumed at once. to nibble the snake instead...) SignatureIgenlode Visit the Ivory Tower http://ivory.150m.com/Tower/ The moment you stop being polite, you lose credibility in what you say. > [snip] >> Out of interest, how much does a rat usually cost in a pet shop in [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > *each*; presumably with the intention of discouraging impulse buying... > For six or seven pounds you might get a hamster. That's more like it. £7 is still too cheap, I agree. In fact, my boyfriend (who also posts here) has said he thinks all pets should be sold for a price that includes pet insurance, which would definitely discourage impulse buys. Hamsters are so evil I wouldn't take one in if you paid me :-) (sorry to anyone who likes/keeps hamsters; I've been bitten too many times) > (I'm pretty sure it's forbidden to feed live rodents to a snake, on the > grounds that they have a nasty tendency, if not consumed at once. to > nibble the snake instead...) I reckon most of the problems with live feeding stem from the fact that predator and prey are stuck in a very small area together. People who say it's more natural to feed live food never seem to take that into account. Rosemary The new ones are SO precious. The pet fellow at the shop has another litter that will be ready in about a week. They were weaned to soon by the accidental parent so he has been hand caring for them the whole time. Egads if I don't want them, too.... HUGs, Lynn It so great to know that there are some stores out there that really do care. It's great that they help out with rescues and not sell for feeders. CongRATS on the new littles... 5!!! wow, so much fun! SignatureJoanne Owned by 22 rats. Webshots: http://community.webshots.com/user/joanneb70 ------------------------------------------------------- ~Ignorance is not innocence but sin. *Robert Browning* |
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