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maffoo - 18 Feb 2008 19:22 GMT
Hi all.

I am considering getting a pet rat, however a couple of things concern me.

First of all, can rats be kept on their own? I have read that they like
companionship, but I'm worried about getting two in case they fight (I
don't have space for a second cage if I need to separate them.)

I'm also a bit worried about temperature. My flat gets cold (5-6
Centigrade). It gets warm while I'm at home as the heating's on but I
can't really afford to keep it on all day. It doesn't get damp, just
cold. Assuming I keep him/her well stocked with warm bedding is this
likely to be a problem?

One other thing - how do rats get on with Wodent Wheels? I have a
hamster one that is wonderful (lovely and quiet!) and I'm wondering how
much a rat-sized one would be used before making the investment. And
would the Senior or Wobust be better?

Thanks in advance.

Matthew
Marlo - 19 Feb 2008 02:45 GMT
Hello.

Definitely get two, they need each other's company.  If you get two
young ones (same sex) from the same batch that have already been living
together, they should be fine. They need the companionship, they are
very social and get things from each other that they can't get from
their people. Make sure that their one cage is big enough.  Can someone
give him a specific mininum?

My experience with wheels is that girls use them and boys don't.  I
can't speak specifically to the Wodent Wheel.  I use the Comfort Wheel
and it is quiet until it gets worn out.

I can't speak to the heating issue, I'll let others in this forum answer
that.  Maybe there's something you could do like a small electric space
heater or something?

Good luck,
Marlo

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Marlo - 19 Feb 2008 03:07 GMT
Here's a link about keeping rats warm:
http://www.dapper.com.au/articles.htm#warm

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maffoo - 19 Feb 2008 09:26 GMT
> Here's a link about keeping rats warm:
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Thanks for the advice, if I get permission from my landlord to keep pets
in the flat I'll get two :)

Can I assume that a rat's sex is obvious from a young age? I ask because
a few years back I got a pair of Roborovski hamsters that I had to
separate because it turned out they weren't the same sex after all
(luckily before there were any extras!) Given the size of a rat I'm
assuming that it's easy for pet shops to identify the boys :)

Also, are male rats more likely to fight than females? I'm just
wondering which sex to go for.

Many thanks.

Matthew
Marlo Miller - 19 Feb 2008 16:57 GMT
It's been my experience that it's pretty hard to mistake a boy rat for a
girl rat.  Let's just say that boys should be extra proud of the
torpedoes they haul around. But don't trust a pet store, check the sex
for yourself. It's also been our experience that the rats that are the
most friendly in the pet store, come up to your hand and check you out,
and especially lick you, will be the ones that turn out extra sweet.

Boys vs. girls: Seems like the boys do more "fighting" but it's really
more about establishing who is dominant.  It's a natural behavior and
usually isn't too serious and once they figure out who's boss, then the
cage settles down. Boys tend to be lazier, girls tend to be busier.  I
like them both.

-Marlo

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maffoo - 19 Feb 2008 17:39 GMT
I had a feeling that would be the case (I know with Syrian hamsters a
mature male is quite obvious!)

Thanks for the advice :)

Matthew

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Marlo - 21 Feb 2008 00:37 GMT
It's pretty easy to see what the boys are packing.  But don't trust the
pet store, look for yourself.

Girls tend to be busier than boys, but I like them both.  All of them
will scuffle to establish who's boss.

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S.O.S. - 21 Feb 2008 04:20 GMT
Tell your landlord they are exotic long tailed gerbils and there shouldn't
be a problem. ;) LOL!

S.O.S.

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maffoo - 21 Feb 2008 18:23 GMT
> Tell your landlord they are exotic long tailed gerbils and there shouldn't
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I'll bear that in mind :) Hopefully if they don't like rats they'll be
ok with a hamster.

Matthew
S.O.S. - 21 Feb 2008 04:19 GMT
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Well the wheels hurt the "ooglies" of the males. :)

S.O.S.

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maffoo - 21 Feb 2008 18:24 GMT
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That brings tears to my eyes just thinking about it!

Matthew
jennjenn84 - 22 Feb 2008 06:52 GMT
I have had much experience with the idea of only getting one rat.  As much as
it seems a good idea, if you get two, you will see how much they need each
other.  I've gone through a lot of male rats, always getting a new one to
replace the one that passed away.  I've never had a hard time getting them to
live okay, just make sure the cage is big enough, and that you offer places
for each one to get away from the other when they need to.  I like boys
better than girls because they are more loving.  I find they do fight, but
its very rare that I actually have to break it up.  Most of the time they are
playing just like human boys do.
 
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