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I know how to train rats; how do you train humans?

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Tiger Spot - 27 Apr 2008 18:44 GMT
We recently moved, and since then Hera's been nippy through the bars
of the cage. It's only through the bars; she's fine when she's out, or
when the cage door is open. It's clearly a deliberate territorial nip,
rather than any kind of oops-I-thought-you-were-food.

My best guess is that she's finally become the dominant rat in the
cage, and has been testing to see if that dominance extends over the
humans, too. I have demonstrated to her that I won't put up with
having my fingers nipped (by flipping her over when she does it), so
she's quit trying to bite me. But she hasn't generalized to other
humans. Now, I could just repeat the if-you-bite-you-get-flipped-over
with the rest of the humans, except that they persist in sticking
their fingers in the cage when I'm not there to correct the behavior.
Which means Hera keeps getting shown that she can bite through the
cage, and the fingers will go away, and therefore that that behavior
does exactly what she wants it to -- and she's not going to stop as
long as it has results she likes.

So how do I convince the humans to quit putting their fingers in the
cage? These are all adults -- my husband and frequent visitors.
They've been told not to stick fingers in the cage. There's a sign on
the cage as a reminder. They get *bitten* when they stick fingers in
the cage. They still do it. What else can you do to convince people to
stop doing stupid things?

--Theresa

http://tiger_spot.mapache.org
Ratticus Rattus esq. - 27 Apr 2008 22:16 GMT
SNIP
> What else can you do to convince people to
> stop doing stupid things?

Can't be done. Sorry but H. Sapiens is one of the stupidest tool users
on this planet and their only saving grace is the love rats, dogs and
make beer. Other than that...
--
Keith S
Mandie @k@ Zepherous - 28 Apr 2008 04:57 GMT
I know the feeling, Doowie is the resident cage biter here after years of
Tar doing the same,
I've now resorted to no sympathy for the human and comforting the rat
(seeing as he must have been annoyed)
humans are the hardest animal to train and you can't legally have them put
to sleep :-)
Try barring the annoying human (I had to resort to that for one certain
individual)

> We recently moved, and since then Hera's been nippy through the bars
> of the cage. It's only through the bars; she's fine when she's out, or
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Mark Gerkey - 29 Apr 2008 04:57 GMT
have you tried turning your husband on his back when he puts his fingers in the
bars? LOL
I just had to say that because it seams that if humans read a sign that says "DO
NOT DO ..." That is the first thing they will do.
Mark

>We recently moved, and since then Hera's been nippy through the bars
>of the cage. It's only through the bars; she's fine when she's out, or
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>http://tiger_spot.mapache.org

Mark G.
Of the Royal Estates
and "Pagan God of Food"
 
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