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Pet Forum / Mammals / Rats / December 2008Wine carriers
Does anyone else use the cardboard carry-boxes with six compartments for wine bottles which you can get from supermarkets (in the UK, anyway) for their rats? Mine love them - they can go in through one of the compartments and it's all one big box inside, and I can get it in the cage even though the door's quite small, cause I put it in flat with the top bit bent over and open it out once it's inside the cage. Rosemary This is a fantastic idea. I can't wait to try it with our rats. Thanks Rosemary. I would use them Rosemary except Celestina and Belle' both like the cardboard tubes made for yarn. I just pile them in and they have fun...almost as much fun with the leaving from carding our alpaca fiber. -- Keith > I would use them Rosemary except Celestina and Belle' both like the > cardboard tubes made for yarn. I just pile them in and they have > fun...almost as much fun with the leaving from carding our alpaca > fiber. I've not come across the cardboard tubes you're talking about - I'm always on the lookout for ones the right size, though. I have heard people say they use the cardboard tubes from rolls of carpet that they beg from the local carpet shop, but I've never got up the courage to ask :-) Do you keep your own alpaca? Rosemary > > I would use them Rosemary except Celestina and Belle' both like the > > cardboard tubes made for yarn. I just pile them in and they have [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > they use the cardboard tubes from rolls of carpet that they beg from the > local carpet shop, but I've never got up the courage to ask :-) Try a craft shop or knitting shop. The tubes are about 3 1/2 to 4 inches in diameter and roughly the same length. I get mine for free because the wife crochets. ;^) Mind you I've learned to never answer "it doesn't matter" when she asks what colour I want something...she has a room full of yarn. YIKES! > Do you keep your own alpaca? Yes, currently they are boarded at a alpaca ranch. Farm land isn't cheap and our studs need to earn some more money so we can buy land. -- Keith > Try a craft shop or knitting shop. The tubes are about 3 1/2 to 4 > inches in diameter and roughly the same length. I get mine for free > because the wife crochets. ;^) Mind you I've learned to never answer > "it doesn't matter" when she asks what colour I want something...she > has a room full of yarn. YIKES! Thanks for the idea :-) Did you know when you got married your wife was a yarnoholic? >> Do you keep your own alpaca? > > Yes, currently they are boarded at a alpaca ranch. Farm land isn't > cheap and our studs need to earn some more money so we can buy land. Wow. An alpaca ranch. I've never heard of such a thing. Are they good to keep with sheep like llamas? Rosemary > > Try a craft shop or knitting shop. The tubes are about 3 1/2 to 4 > > inches in diameter and roughly the same length. I get mine for free [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > > Are they good to keep with sheep like llamas? I suppose. Haven't looked into it. Most of the lamb here is for wool and after owning alpaca fiber socks, gloves and clothing in general...sheep are naught but meat to me. I love lamb...might even have a little something special of the the 25th of Jan. ;^) p.s. That way my fellow 'merkans don't get grossed out. -- Keith > Does anyone else use the cardboard carry-boxes with six compartments for > wine bottles which you can get from supermarkets (in the UK, anyway) for [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > Rosemary I haven't, but I will pick one up next time I shop. Thanks for the tip! :) Even if they're not that keen on the carry-box, it sounds like a damn good excuse to get six bottles of wine. :) >> Does anyone else use the cardboard carry-boxes with six compartments >> for wine bottles which you can get from supermarkets (in the UK, [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > tip! :) Even if they're not that keen on the carry-box, it sounds like > a damn good excuse to get six bottles of wine. :) Now that's a very good point :-D Rosemary > >> Does anyone else use the cardboard carry-boxes with six compartments > >> for wine bottles which you can get from supermarkets (in the UK, [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > > Rosemary But what if I prefer a nice sherry or amontialldo? Granted the grocery store carries wine...none I'm that fond of. For heavens sake some of it comes in boxes!!! -- keith >> > Even if they're not that keen on the carry-box, it sounds like >> > a damn good excuse to get six bottles of wine. :) [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > store carries wine...none I'm that fond of. For heavens sake some of > it comes in boxes!!! Ooh dear; wine from a box. I'd rather drink tapwater. If I'm honest, I use the wine carriers for bottles of passata more often than wine, anyway :-) Rosemary > >> > Even if they're not that keen on the carry-box, it sounds like > >> > a damn good excuse to get six bottles of wine. :) [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > > Ooh dear; wine from a box. I'd rather drink tapwater. Well it's a aluminumized<sic> mylar sandwich in a cardboard box if you wish to be picky. 8^) But yeah...if one is drinking with a meal or good company it's beer. Wine is for cooking...sherry's being an exception to the rule. IF you want a real shocker...over here the morons think that beer isn't any good if it has any yeast left in it! Don't get me started on how under hopped the so called american lagers are...heathens. > If I'm honest, I use the wine carriers for bottles of passata more often > than wine, anyway :-) Lucky you, ours is all in boxes or bags. -- Keith <snip> > IF you want a real shocker...over here the morons think that beer > isn't any good if it has any yeast left in it! Don't get me started on > how under hopped the so called american lagers are...heathens. Presumably you cen get imported lagers, though (at a price)? Pilsner Urquell is one of my favourites of the Czech lagers, or Staropramen for when I want something a bit punchier. Budweiser Budvar is good, too - I think it's called Czechvar in North America because of the trademark dispute. They're all pretty mainstream stuff you can get in the big supermarkets, but plenty of people still seem to like the crappy lagers they're used to. They've started stocking a lot more interesting beers there in recent years too - a good selection of wheat beers, blonde ales, etc. . Can you get Weihenstephan hefeweissbier over there? (I know all the breweries do a whole load of different beers under the same label, but for the beers I've mentioned I mean the standard one you can get in the shops) >> If I'm honest, I use the wine carriers for bottles of passata more >> often than wine, anyway :-) > > Lucky you, ours is all in boxes or bags. Wine, or passata? Rosemary > <snip> > [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > Urquell is one of my favourites of the Czech lagers, or Staropramen for > when I want something a bit punchier. Budweiser Budvar is good, too I LOVE Pilsen Urquell! We've recently been able to Hoogarden<sic?> mmm, gooood. Get Stella Arois also, when I lived in the Tacoma, Wa area I could get some Lambec beers. Interestingly the BEST porter I can recall ever having is made in Cambridge, Ma. It's a little brewery called "Cambridge brewing co." they call it their 'Charles River Porter' when I was a child the charles was so polluted it was so brown it was almost black. If you were to fill a small beer of Guiness and another of Charles River Porter, the Guiness would let some light through the edges. The CRP would suck the light in! Ordered a pitcher for myself one evening to have with dinner. The pitcher arrived with about 70-80mm of head AND another 20mm or so under the lip!!! Wonderful smell, yeasty, strong..you know good honest porter smells. On a lark I placed a quarter on the head (yes a pffenning is the standard) it didn't sink...by the time my dinner was done it had only sunk maybe 20mm. Oh my good head! Sadly they only ship kegs last I checked. 8^( > think it's called Czechvar in North America because of the trademark > dispute. They're all pretty mainstream stuff you can get in the big > supermarkets, but plenty of people still seem to like the crappy lagers > they're used to. They've started stocking a lot more interesting beers > there in recent years too - a good selection of wheat beers, blonde ales, > etc. . Can you get Weihenstephan hefeweissbier over there? Not locally to me. If you look at a map...Montana is "Flyover" country. Mountains to the right of me, mountains to the left of me and mountains to the front staring down the barrels of their valley's <sic> some days I feel like the light brigade! Irony is I spent many years in our army's 1st Cavalry. ;^) I smell karma. > > Lucky you, ours is all in boxes or bags. > > Wine, or passata? Yes...though I can get Barilla pasta. We make our own occasionally, spagetti, fettucini...the non-extruded stuff. Nothing like home made and I can say the same for beers. p.s. fresh pasta and fresh beer are the best. For the rats and the owners. -- Keith >> > IF you want a real shocker...over here the morons think that beer >> > isn't any good if it has any yeast left in it! Don't get me started [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > I LOVE Pilsen Urquell! We've recently been able to Hoogarden<sic?> > mmm, gooood. I think I have a Hoegaarden glass somewhere :-) I've heard there's an American-made beer called (...wait while I ferret round the web... aha!) Celis White, that's made by a company started by the same guy who made Hoegaarden. Don't know what it's like, but it sounds a similar sort of thing. I got into lager more after I went to the Czech Republic - before that, I drank the odd lager, the occasional ale, some spirits. I really only drink ale when I'm in a pub. Strange thing was that most of the places I went to in Prague served either Budweiser Budvar or Pilser Urquell (from Budweis and Pilsen respectively, obviously) if you just asked for a lager, rather than Staropramen, which is from Prague. > Get Stella Arois also, when I lived in the Tacoma, Wa > area I could get some Lambec beers. Is it still "reassuringly expensive" by the time it gets to you? :-) > Interestingly the BEST porter I > can recall ever having is made in Cambridge, Ma. It's a little brewery > called "Cambridge brewing co." they call it their 'Charles River > Porter' That sounds like an interesting drink. I'm not much of a stout or porter drinker - dark beers tend to mess with my medications more than lighter ones! <snip> >> > Lucky you, ours is all in boxes or bags. >> [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > p.s. fresh pasta and fresh beer are the best. For the rats and the > owners. I've never made beer, though my other half apparently spent most of his teenage years making wine from various different things. We do do the easy things like homemade bread and pasta, though. Well, easy for me - he does most of the hard work :-) We buy dried pasta for the rats' dried food mix, though - I've no idea how I'd go about trying to dry homemade pasta properly. Rosemary > >> > IF you want a real shocker...over here the morons think that beer > >> > isn't any good if it has any yeast left in it! Don't get me started [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > Hoegaarden. Don't know what it's like, but it sounds a similar sort of > thing. Celis brewery makes some damn fine beer. 8^) They were down the road from me (down the road in texas is 135mi). I miss Sam Samuels (?) use a glass like that enough and it breaks eventually. 8^(, > I got into lager more after I went to the Czech Republic - before that, I > drank the odd lager, the occasional ale, some spirits. I really only > drink ale when I'm in a pub. Strange thing was that most of the places I > went to in Prague served either Budweiser Budvar or Pilser Urquell (from > Budweis and Pilsen respectively, obviously) if you just asked for a > lager, rather than Staropramen, which is from Prague. Ah then you understand what I mean when I say that "If I could afford a tour of europe I'd skip the museums and tour the breweries and the distilleries of scotia" <sigh> even if all I did was taste it's worth it. Beer is life and scotch is a sacrament. ;^) Not that I feel strongly mind you. > > Get Stella Arois also, when I lived in the Tacoma, Wa > > area I could get some Lambec beers. > > Is it still "reassuringly expensive" by the time it gets to you? :-) Oh yes! Roughly $11usd for a 6 pack...one of the few beers I've had at that price point that I felt was worth that and maybe more. > > Interestingly the BEST porter I > > can recall ever having is made in Cambridge, Ma. It's a little brewery [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > drinker - dark beers tend to mess with my medications more than lighter > ones! FOR SHAME! I'll take up your share of the darks beers then...it's a sacrafice I know, but someone has to do it. Being a former cavalry trooper I'm emminently qualified to throw myself betwixt others and harm. > <snip> > [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > I've never made beer, though my other half apparently spent most of his > teenage years making wine from various different things. To qoute a brewmeister I had chance to talk with years ago "Making beer is like making bread only wetter" 8^) Well think about it, you use wheat, barley, yeast and water...the difference is the amout of water mixed with the grains. ;^) >We do do the > easy things like homemade bread and pasta, though. Well, easy for me - he > does most of the hard work :-) We buy dried pasta for the rats' dried > food mix, though - I've no idea how I'd go about trying to dry homemade > pasta properly. Make a "tree" out of wooden dowels. With all the branches horizontal. Sort of like this... -----------------------------------------------| -----------------------------------------------| -----------------------------------------------| -----------------------------------------------| Note I am NO ASCII artist. But you get the jist of it. Make the centre part like a St. Andrews cross and pick a height that allows for the length of your pasta. I'm lazy I bought the wife one years ago. -- Keith there is no avoiding ageing...nobody said you had to grow up. <snip> >> I think I have a Hoegaarden glass somewhere :-) I've heard there's an >> American-made beer called (...wait while I ferret round the web... [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > from me (down the road in texas is 135mi). I miss Sam Samuels (?) use > a glass like that enough and it breaks eventually. 8^(, Yeah - maybe that's why I don't drink much Belgian beer; I don't have enough room to store all the glasses :-) <snip> > Beer is life and scotch is a sacrament. ;^) Not that I feel > strongly mind you. It's a point of view... :-D I got horribly drunk on Scotch once, and have't been able to face it since, so I drink Bourbon or Irish whiskey if I feel the need. I take it you're not a gin or vodka drinker? Drifting back to rats for a minute, I remember going on a cycling trip with my dad and a load of his mates, and I took the rats with me (it was an overnighter). The lads decided to find out what kind of beer rats preferred (when I was out of the room). Luckily, they only gave eack rat a droplet each of lager and of bitter, so they weren't drunk, and didn't seem to suffer any ill effects. I was pretty annoyed, though. Turned out they preferred the bitter. >> > Get Stella Arois also, when I lived in the Tacoma, Wa >> > area I could get some Lambec beers. [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > Oh yes! Roughly $11usd for a 6 pack...one of the few beers I've had at > that price point that I felt was worth that and maybe more. Sounds like a pretty reasonable price to me. Mind you, booze is a rip-off in this country. <snip> >> We do do the >> easy things like homemade bread and pasta, though. Well, easy for me [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > part like a St. Andrews cross and pick a height that allows for the > length of your pasta. I'm lazy I bought the wife one years ago. Would that really dry it out completely like the stuff you buy in packets, though? We dry on racks already, because you really have to in order to cut it properly in the machine, but not that much! :-) Rosemary > <snip> > [quoted text clipped - 19 lines] > have't been able to face it since, so I drink Bourbon or Irish whiskey if > I feel the need. I take it you're not a gin or vodka drinker? I respect and enjoy scotch too much to get horribly drunk on it. Tequila otoh...ought to be consumed in quantaty imho. But, that doesn't happen very much these days. > Drifting back to rats for a minute, I remember going on a cycling trip > with my dad and a load of his mates, and I took the rats with me (it was [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > Turned out they preferred the bitter. Sweet, never tried it on any of mine. Though I'll keep the bitters in mind ;^). > >> > Get Stella Arois also, when I lived in the Tacoma, Wa > >> > area I could get some Lambec beers. [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > Sounds like a pretty reasonable price to me. Mind you, booze is a rip-off > in this country. Dang tax man! We've a wee tradition of moonshing in the states. Seems some scots lads moved here and didn't like tax on whiskey. Mind you moonshine is almost never aged except by accident and quit, um potent. About 180 proof +. > >> We do do the > >> easy things like homemade bread and pasta, though. Well, easy for me [quoted text clipped - 18 lines] > packets, though? We dry on racks already, because you really have to in > order to cut it properly in the machine, but not that much! :-) No, after it's cut and depending on humidity it can dry in an hour. -- Keith <snip> >> > Beer is life and scotch is a sacrament. ;^) Not that I feel >> > strongly mind you. [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > I respect and enjoy scotch too much to get horribly drunk on it. What can I say? I was 15, and the only other booze in the house that I could get away with drinking was a bottle of mint chocolate liqueur! I think it was only something nasty like Glenfiddich, though. <snip> Rosemary > <snip> > [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > could get away with drinking was a bottle of mint chocolate liqueur! I > think it was only something nasty like Glenfiddich, though. Well there you go then! You didn't know any better! So we just have to figure out how to get around that psychic block. It's not like me a sloe gin/gin first time I drank that...5 minutes later up and out it came. Apparently Bacchus doesn't want me dringking that stuff. ;^) p.s. scotch isn't meant for guzzling<sic> -- Keith >> >> > Beer is life and scotch is a sacrament. ;^) Not that I feel >> >> > strongly mind you. [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > Well there you go then! You didn't know any better! So we just have to > figure out how to get around that psychic block. Maybe one day :-) My other half reckons it's all about finding out what kind of Scotch you like - he went to a whisky-tasting session once, run by a guy who apparently could work out which whisky you'd like the most in three goes. > It's not like me a > sloe gin/gin first time I drank that...5 minutes later up and out it > came. Apparently Bacchus doesn't want me dringking that stuff. ;^) I like gin. Bombay Original is my current favourite, I think - though the trouble with spirits is that it's more difficult than with beer to try several different ones to find out what you like - pubs and bars don't do a good enough range of spirits, and it takes a goooood long while for me to finish a standard bottle of gin or other spirits. The supermarket does a pretty good range of spirits, especially compared to bars, but it'd take me years to try them all. > p.s. scotch isn't meant for guzzling<sic> Sorry, I'm being a bit dim - I don't get it. :-/ Rosemary > >> >> > Beer is life and scotch is a sacrament. ;^) Not that I feel > >> >> > strongly mind you. [quoted text clipped - 34 lines] > > Sorry, I'm being a bit dim - I don't get it. :-/ You don't sit there half a night emptying the bottle. ;^) But hey you were young. I just can't touch gin...sick isn't the word for it. Oh well, so many beers so little time. -- Keith |
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